Myth 11: In Ehsan Jafri’s case, women were raped
Posted on May 22, 2008 - Filed Under 12-Concocted Lies and Myths by the media |
Fact: The following is some part of Arundhati Roy’s article in weekly Outlook dated 6 May 2002 on the Ehsan Jafri case:
“Last night a friend from Baroda called. Weeping. It took her fifteen minutes to tell me what the matter was. It wasn’t very complicated. Only that Sayeeda, a friend of hers, had been caught by a mob. Only that her stomach had been ripped open and stuffed with burning rags. Only that after she died, someone carved ‘OM‘ on her forehead…
…A mob surrounded the house of former Congress MP Iqbal Ehsan Jaffri. His phone calls to the Director-General of Police, the Police Commissioner, the Chief Secretary, the Additional Chief Secretary (Home) were ignored. The mobile police vans around his house did not intervene. The mob broke into the house. They stripped his daughters and burned them alive. Then they beheaded Ehsan Jaffri and dismembered him. Of course it’s only a coincidence that Jaffri was a trenchant critic of Gujarat Chief Minister, Narendra Modi, during his campaign for the Rajkot Assembly by-election in February…”
Outlook had the guts to publish a rebuttal from a senior functionary of the BJP, the then Rajya Sabha MP Balbir Punj. The following was the reply:
“Fiddling With Facts As Gujarat Burns
Introduction: The Roys in the media are harming India with half-truths and worse.
“(Here Balbir Punj quotes some sentences from Roy’s article dated 6th May 2002)…
That was the Goddess of small things, Arundhati Roy, painting the big picture of Gujarat in Democracy: Who’s she when she’s at home? (Outlook, May 6, 2002). Roy sums here neatly almost all the charges against the Sangh Parivar. When a reputed weekly like Outlook publishes a Booker Prize-winner, it is meant to be serious commentary. And concomitantly, Roy has put her brilliant linguistic skills to the service of “truth”. Read her graphic details—”The mob broke into the house. They stripped his daughters and burnt them alive”. Roy speaks with the confidence of an eyewitness. Alternatively, she must’ve access to an eyewitness. Anyway, it reads heart-rendingly honest.
Heart-rending, yes, but honest, no. Jaffri was killed in the riots but his daughters were neither “stripped” nor “burnt alive”. T.A. Jafri, his son, in a front-page interview titled Nobody knew my father’s house was the target (Asian Age, May 2, Delhi edition), says, “Among my brothers and sisters, I am the only one living in India. And I am the eldest in the family. My sister and brother live in the US. I am 40 years old and I have been born and brought up in Ahmedabad.”
So, Roy is lying—for surely Jafri is not. But what about the hundreds of media lies that haven’t been exhumed as yet? Her seven-page long (approx: 6,000 words) hate charter against India and the Sangh Parivar is woven around just two specific cases of human tragedy, one of which—by now, we know for sure—is a piece of fiction…
…She terms Gujarat the “petri dish” of the Sangh Parivar. The fact is that Godhra has been used as a crucible by the secular fundamentalists. No wonder, after the roasting of the Ram sevaks, they, while condemning the crime, blamed the victims. Many of them invented events such as a quarrel with hawkers, misbehaviour with women and shouting of provocative slogans to justify the horrendous crime…
…But was what happened in Gujarat a “pogrom” targeted at Muslims? Loss of 900-odd innocent lives (both Hindus and Muslims) is definitely not a “genocide” of any one community. Yet it is one more shameful event in the long and unfortunate chain of communal riots in India, since the 1893 Bombay and Azamgarh riots. Beginning from the 1714 Holi riots in the Mughal period, Ahmedabad itself has witnessed no less than 10 major recorded riots.
The Sangh Parivar was not there in 1714, nor was it a dominant force during the ‘69 and ‘85 riots. So what explains these riots when Gujarat was not a ‘Sangh Parivar petri dish’?
Out of those who perished in the communal frenzy, over one-third are Hindus.
Following Godhra, massive spontaneous violence broke out in various parts of Gujarat against the Muslims. Since the rioters were mainly Hindus, they also accounted for about 75 per cent of those who fell to police bullets in the first three days. In fact, till April 18 Hindus accounted for more deaths in police firing than Muslims.
But for almost three weeks now, the violence has been led by Muslims against Hindus and, naturally, a bulk of the casualties are accounted for by them. The police have booked 34,000 rioters, majority of whom are Hindus. Both communities have suffered heavy loss of business and property in the arson and looting. While rioters are communal in picking their targets, looters are not—and they target at random. One lakh Muslims are struggling in relief camps, but so are 40,000 Hindus. This is a horrible riot, which is sad enough, but why call it a genocide? Whom does it help? Not the riot victims, only our enemies across the border.
The country hasn’t suffered so much loss of face in the world as it has now, though it is like one of the scores of riots India has seen. Why? The obvious culprits are those who set ablaze a compartment full of innocent kar sevaks at Godhra and those who indulged in the senseless violence in the following weeks. But the real villains in tarring India’s image are the Roys in the media and a section of public life, who mix half-truths with fiction to settle their ideological or political scores with the Sangh Parivar.
Roy (a role model for several in the secular pack) opens her hate charter with the case of a woman named Sayeeda “whose stomach was ripped open and stuffed with burning rags”. I heard similar horror stories in Parliament. The most frequently quoted were the cases of women raped (in some cases gang-raped), their stomachs ripped open, foetuses taken out and paraded on swords or trishuls. But no one was able to give me even one specific case with all the particulars. Roy gave one, but it proved to be a piece of fiction…
… Blatant myths and fiction have lacerated the facts on Gujarat. The Times of India (March 3) reported Modi’s much-publicised misquote of Newton’s third law—”Every action has an equal and opposite reaction”. In fact, the CM had never said such a thing and no other paper except for Times of India had carried the misquote in its original reportage. But later on, numerous editorials were penned on the basis of this canard. All his denials were thrown in the dustbin…
…The Editor’s Guild came down heavily on the Gujarati press and hailed the role of the English press in coverage of the riots. The former might have been guilty of exaggeration but I am sure it has not concocted stories the way the Roys did in the English media. Surprisingly, the Guild has nothing critical to say on the role of the electronic media and of the Roys, guilty of blackening India’s name, generating more communal hate at a critical time and demonising a section of citizens through half-truths and complete lies. Some rioters may be guilty of rape and should be punished for their heinous crimes, but what about those who have raped the truth and the country in the last two months?”
This really gave the game up. After this, Arundhati Roy wrote “An apology”. The full text of that apology is reproduced here:
“To the Jaffri Family, An Apology
In a situation like the one that prevails in Gujarat, when the police are reluctant to register FIRs, when the administration is openly hostile to those trying to gather facts, and when the killings go on unabated—then panic, fear and rumour play a pivotal role. People who have disappeared are presumed dead, people who have been dismembered and burnt cannot be identified, and people who are distraught and traumatised are incoherent.
So even when those of us who write try and use the most reliable sources, mistakes can happen. But in an atmosphere so charged with violence, grief and mistrust, it’s important to correct mistakes that are pointed out.
There is a factual error in my essay Democracy: Where’s she when she’s at home? (May 6). In describing the brutal killing of Ehsan Jaffri, I have said that his daughters had been killed along with their father. It has subsequently been pointed out to me that this is not correct. Eyewitness accounts say that Ehsan Jaffri was killed along with his three brothers and two nephews. His daughters were not among the 10 women who were raped and killed in Chamanpura that day.
I apologise to the Jaffri family for compounding their anguish. I’m truly sorry.
My information (mis-information, as it turned out) was cross-checked from two sources. Time magazine (March 11) in an article by Meenakshi Ganguly and Anthony Spaeth; and “Gujarat Carnage 2002: A Report to the Nation” by an independent fact-finding mission which included K.S. Subrahmanyam, former IGP Tripura, and S.P. Shukla, former finance secretary. I spoke to Mr Subrahmanyam about the error. He said his information at that time came from a senior police official.
This and other genuine errors in recounting the details of the violence in Gujarat in no way alters the substance of what journalists, fact-finding missions, or writers like myself are saying.”
The link is: http://www.outlookindia.com/rants.asp?type=single&id=20020527133759
Years later, Balbir Punj wrote in weekly Organiser dated 9 July 2006:
“Some four years ago I had a clash in print with Arundhati Roy. The occasion was the Gujarat riots that had come as a windfall to ‘secular’ brigade’s publicity campaign. Those ‘secularists’ are no where visible, not even with a telescope, when Hindus are killed in Doda. Roy, in her article Who’s she when she is at home? (The Outlook May 6, 2002) had given a vivid account of a mob attack on house of ex-Congress MP Iqbal Ehshan Jafri, who was unfortunately killed in the riots. Roy gave a graphic detail-“mob broke into the house. They stripped his daughters and burnt them alive”.
This event became a media-occasion for Roy to demonise Hindutva. But those who had read The Asian Age (May 2, 2002) would not have been impressed because in it late Ehshan Jaffri’s son T.A. Jaffri said -“Among my brothers and sisters, I am the only one living in India. And I am the eldest in the family. My sister and brother live in the US. I am 40 years old and I have been born and brought up in Ahmedabad”. So Roy was describing the stripping and killing of Ehshan Jafri’s daughter’s in Gujarat riots, who in reality were safe in another part of the globe.
Roy had begun her charter of hate with another damning description: “Last night a friend from Baroda called. Weeping. It took her fifteen minutes to tell me what the matter was. It wasn’t very complicated. Only that Sayeeda, a friend of hers, had been caught by a mob. Only that her stomach had been ripped open and stuffed with burning rags. Only that after she died, someone carved ‘OM’ on her forehead”.
Shocked by this despicable “incident”, I got in touch with the Gujarat government. The police investigations revealed that no such case, involving someone called Sayeeda, had been reported either in urban or rural Baroda. Subsequently, the police sought Roy’s help to identify the victim and seek access to witnesses who could lead them to those guilty of this crime. But the police got no cooperation. Instead, Roy, through her lawyer, replied that the police had no power to issue summons. Thus she hedged behind technical excuses. I took up this incident in my rejoinder published as Dissimulation In Word and Images (The Outlook, July 8, 2002).”
See link:
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=138&page=8
However, here it is worth mentioning a couple of things which even Balbir Punj did not mention. This apology is also false, since Roy claims that 10 women were raped and killed that day. In reality, after reading the then English newspapers in the first week of March 2002, one finds no mention of any rapes at all. These stories of rape starting coming out in the middle of March 2002, after Time magazine concocted lies in its issue of 11 March 2002, copied by Arundhati Roy. Neither Roy nor the Time correspondent can point out any rapes, because they just didn’t happen.
Second incorrect fact- the police did nothing to stop the mob in Jafri’s house. India Today weekly dated 18 March 2002 clearly admits that at least 5 people were shot dead by the police outside Jafri’s house. The police also saved the lives of some 200 Muslims, since only 40 out of the 250 people inside the house died. It was impossible for the police to control the mob of around 10,000 people.
Another incorrect fact- mentioned by Roy was that 150 people were killed in the complex. Actually- the number is around 50. Out of the 250 people in the complex- police saved around 200.
Even the National Commission for Women in its report stated that the media needlessly exaggerated the plight of women victims of the communal carnage. On 22nd
April 2002- Tehelka’s website said–“Nafisa Hussain, a member of the NCW, has gone on record saying that several organisations and the media have needlessly blown out of proportion the violence suffered by minority women in the communal riots of Gujarat.”
hindu should be called hizrah if they have not attacked muslim after godhra ,mussalmam would have carry the guts that hindus has no unity /power to attack them,actually mualman thinks that they acn commit crime to any capacity and escape unhurt in India as Congress other protecting them.
GOOD WORK DONE BY HINDUS <NO DOUBT INNOCENT ARE SACRIFICED ON BOTH END BUT THIS IS PRICE FOR LIVING ON LAND WHERE ISLAM IS SPREADING ITS BRANCHES.
painful gandhi decision make hindustan bleed even today,HINDU BE ON ALERT.
“I don’t care about what allah does or not…Yes, gita does say Krishna say that I will take birth to kill those who do not follow dharma…we have copy pasted the Sanskrit verse in this site before also.. check the pages and read urself”
Well Deepak beta- produce the exact verse in Sanskrit- as I said- its chapter 4 Verses 7 and 8- and nowhere is ‘killing’ all those who do not follow Dharma mentioned.
“The point is, if you think muslims are evil just base don ur religious views, then you are the most subhuman virus ever to be born on this planet, because truth is we all are children of same life force, and if someone can hate a community based on what faith they follow, then you are not what you pretend to call your self..HINDU, SIKH CHRISTIAN, JAIN OR MUSLIM…
Because truth is, there is no distinction of people by the means of faith… and those who do that, both muslims and hindus (YOU AND YOUR KIND) are all virus and plague of this planet”
I dont expect anything else from you. I have always advocated peace and brotherhood among all religions- but ISLAM HAS NOT. When I have quoted irrefutable Quranic quotations (8:12, 3:151, 9:5 and others) you have not even attempted to refute them- point by point- since you cannot do that. Nor have you condemned the Holy Quran- which is the root cause of Islamic terrorism in the world- including the attack on World Trade Centre on 11 Sept 2001 in USA.
“and asking me if I am changing names to post here, that was a genuine mistake, I was going to address the statement to you, instead I wrote your last name in my name section…but why are you so panicked about it?? The replies I see on this forum, are most of 2-3 guys using different names…you posted about 3 months ago with some other pseudo name…you re no different, but you ACTUALLY DO IT ON PURPOSE”
I cannot speak about others in this forum- but I certainly do not use a fake name. When you are taking my surname- it does cause resentment- though I am willing to accept your claim that it was by mistake and not intentional.
“If you guys were followers of truth and honesty, your kind would be leading india…instead leaders of RSS, VHP, SHIV SENA AND so on are most hatred among indians, hindus and muslims alike!!”
Really? So those who rule India - like Sonia (Italian Christian)- Rahul (Indo-Italian), Mamata Banerjee, Lalu (in the last UPA) Taslimuddin, Karunanidhi, are all folowers of truth and honesty?
Really Deepak- if anyone is PARANOID and inhuman- it is you- because I recall few months back- you had asked- no one from RSS ever gave his life- to which it was replied- 800 RSS men were killed in Kerala by CPM, many in Bengal and Kerala, 58 BJP men were killed in Coimbatore blasts by Muslims in 1998,4 RSS officials were brutally killed by Christians in Tripura in 2001, many were killed by Sikh militants in Punjab in the 1980s- and so on- to which you said- “These criminals cant be called martyrs”. Really- you are a pathetic guy. You want RSS men to be killed- just because you dont follow its ideology- you cant blame MUSLIMS for crimes like GODHRA, and attacks on Hindus even AFTER GODHRA- and you dont have the guts to blame the HOLY QURAN for being responsible for the worst kind of violence and terrorism- not only in India- but also worldwide.
Let us say- for arguments sake- Sangh Parivar people are trouble makers. Does that make the Quran less inhuman - and violence instigating? Remember Deepak- Muslims will follow teachings of QURAN and they will force you too to convert - or torture you horribly- as taught in Quran (22:19-22) after they finish Sangh Parivar.
“I don’t care about what allah does or not”
I am an atheist. I dont believe in God at all. This ALLAH is a powerless God- who makes Muslims kill kafirs and unbelievers- instead of doing his dirty work himself. What is worrisome is your response to such horrible passages. And it is as I expected. People like you will go on kicking the dead dog- (Hindus) and keep a safe distance from the mad dog. Understand that ISLAM is the root cause of India’s problems- MUSLIMS WILL kill or convert- and torture- as taught in the Holy Quran.
I don’t care about what allah does or not…
Yes, gita does say Krishna say that I will take birth to kill those who do not follow dharma…we have copy pasted the Sanskrit verse in this site before also.. check the pages and read urself…
The point is, if you think muslims are evil just base don ur religious views, then you are the most subhuman virus ever to be born on this planet, because truth is we all are children of same life force, and if someone can hate a community based on what faith they follow, then you are not what you pretend to call your self..HINDU, SIKH CHRISTIAN, JAIN OR MUSLIM…
Because truth is, there is no distinction of people by the means of faith… and those who do that, both muslims and hindus (YOU AND YOUR KIND) are all virus and plague of this planet
and asking me if I am changing names to post here, that was a genuine mistake, I was going to address the statement to you, instead I wrote your last name in my name section…but why are you so panicked about it?? The replies I see on this forum, are most of 2-3 guys using different names…you posted about 3 months ago with some other pseudo name…you re no different, but you ACTUALLY DO IT ON PURPOSE
If you guys were followers of truth and honesty, your kind would be leading india…instead leaders of RSS, VHP, SHIV SENA AND so on are most hatred among indians, hindus and muslims alike!!
And nowhere does Lord Krishna say- “I will kill those who do not follow DHARMA.” The exact words are told in Geeta Chapter 4 Verses 7 and 8- and it is clearly stated- “For the victory of Good People and downfall of evil people(Paritranaya Sadhunam, Vinashayacha Dushkrutam)I will take birth again and again”.
NOWHERE DOES THE QURAN say that unbelievers are only evil people- including those evil who believe in Allah. OPEN CHALLENGE Mr DEEPAK- PRODUCE ONE VERSE FROM THE QURAN WHICH SAYS- “UNBELIEVERS MEAN EVIL PEOPLE ONLY- INCLUDING MUSLIMS WHO DO EVIL- AND BELIEVERS MEAN GOOD PEOPLE- INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE ATHEISTS, POLYTHEISTS, IDOLATORS, NON-MUSLIMS”.
The entire QURAN is full of HORRIBLE PASSAGES- you will have to refute me 3600 times- that many times I can come back with Quranic quotations!
Oye Deepak Bali,
Faking the name “Deepak Mantri” are we?
For your information- Islam and Christianity had not taken birth during Lord Krishna’s time. Instead of taking needless and far-fetched of what Lord Krishna said in the Geeta (4:7-8) read the Quran. When it is written in BLACK AND WHITE that unbelievers mean non-Muslims- idolators are abused and condemned- the Quran consists of 6300 verses out of which 3600 are horrible. DRAWING BIZZARE interpretations to the teachings of Quran by DENYING THE UNDENIABLE is the only thing COWARDS LIKE YOU CAN DO. INSTEAD OF BLAMING MODI, THACKERAY or ADVANI- you should read the cruelty taught by Quran- and practised by Muslims all along. 6 Indian soldiers were brutally tortured for 22 days by Pakistan during the Kargil war in 1999 and killed- eyes were gouged out- and boiling water was poured on them- same thing which Bangladesh did in 2001 to 16 Indian soldiers- and if you read medieval History- you will know the atrocities committed by Islam.
NOWHERE IS IT MENTIONED IN THE QURAN THAT “UNBELIEVERS ARE NOT MUSLIMS- BUT ONLY WRONG-DOERS” and the Quran claims to be “clear- no ambiguity- no doubts” (2:99 and 16:103)
Holy Quran says- “4:48 Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.”
So jealous is their ALLAH- who will pardon Muslim murderers- but not anyone believing in any God other than Allah!
“4:56 Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.”
SO- IT IS CLEARLY STATED IN BLACK AND WHITE- THAT THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE OUR REVELATIONS (i.e. Quran and Muhammad) WILL BE EXPOSED TO FIRE- SKINS WILL BE CONSUMED. Really- even evil people do not deserve their skins to be consumed and roasted in fire- as taught in the Holy Quran. And read the next passage 4:57 to learn what believers will get!
Mr DEEPAK BALI- you are the BIGGEST S LAVE- SLAVE OF ISLAM- of MUHAMMAD- SLAVE OF QURAN- perhaps you also want to kill as many non-Hindus as possible- and then enjoy life with 72 DAMSELS IN HEAVEN- that ALLAH will PROVIDE Muslims!!!!!!!!
For one this I do know you are subslave of VHP. Just like how terrorist like HAFIZ SAEED use quran and other holy books in wrong way to delude the young people you have given us a retarded explanation of what says in quran…
Because quran says those who do not believe in Allah are hypocrites or bad people does not mean they are talking about people who have good faith in other religion. BY this, a religious thinking can simply mean “who do not believe in good” as to those who believe in doing good, being religious and so on..
Juts like GEETA SAYS LORD KRISHNA SAY “I will take birth again and again to kill those who do not follow DHARMA” …now does that mean Krishna wanted to kill Christians and Muslims and so on..
no both phrases are talking about bad people in general who do not have faith in humanity, not as to faith in one particular religion.. for example:
ADVANI
MODI
TAGODIA
THACKREY
VARUN
JAI HIND
To further clear the air- “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.” (Quran 9:73)
This clearly makes 2 catagories- UNBELIEVERS and HYPOCRITES- so much for the claim that unbelievers mean hypocrites. All UNBELIEVERS are considered horrible anyway- and hypocrites specially mentioned again means hypocrites in Muslims.
And this- “9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”
I will quote your exact words- “ur comment has made read 60-70 quotations from the sites of former-muslims but i did not find anything that had written the non-muslims will be massacred. please show any such quotation to prove me wrong.”
I have not understood what you are trying to say here. Please try to explain it.
If you are saying that you have seen the sites of former Muslims but not found anything saying that non-Muslims will be massacred- then see this-
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm
Remember- ISLAM is terrorism- but many Muslims do not know this. They believe genuinely- though erroneously- that Islam is a religion of peace. I am not at all targeting all Muslims. However- Indian Muslims have a burning desire to “Re-establish” Islamic rule in India- It is this burning desire that prompts them to demand Pakistan- and get it- and continue attacks on Hindus ever since.
Well Abhishek- let us see the Quran- Chapter 5 Verse 51- “Oh ye who believe- do not make friends with Jews and Christians- he who makes friends with them is one of them”
What is this? Jews and Christians are mentioned DIRECTLY- you call this as an indication of ‘evil people’? Or are you saying that Jews and Christians are all evil people?
How evil is this Allah who kills and tortures non believers as taught in Quran Chapter 22:19-22.
Your attempt to defend 3:151 as applicable only to evil is really pathetic. Looking at 3:151- only a blind man will fail to understand the meaning of the first part- which is-”We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority…” this means- those who believe in Gods other than ALLAH- are offending Allah- because there is no God other than Allah.
The other part of this verse is- “Evil is the abode of the unjust”- undoubtedly- unjust people have evil abode. But Islam considers all non-believers in Allah as ‘unjust. Pathetic attempt to say that 3:151 is not for non-Muslims. When it is clearly mentioned that- “we will strike terror in disbelievers hearts BECAUSE THEY SET UP WITH ALLAH THAT FOR WHICH HE HAS SENT DOWN NO AUTHORITY”-i.e. because they insult Allah by not believing in Him and his Prophet. Does 3:151 say- “We will strike terror in hearts of all evil doers- whether believers or non-believers- and evil doers belief in Allah is immaterial?” Had it said anything like this- I would have conceeded one point. And what about other 3,599 verses?
Well I am happy that do you do not agree to being killed with boling oil and hooked iron rods- even for criminals.
But in this debate- there are around 3,600 verses which I can quote- which you will need to try to refute- since there are 3,600 verses in the Quran which are objectionable. One verse I will quote here is-
“When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.”
(Quran 9:5)
Hindus are IDOLATORS-if they repent and take to prayer is also translated as- if they establish worship- this means if they BECOME MUSLIMS- then leave them. Really- slay them wherever you find them-whats the fault of the poor idolators?
Really- what a religion teaching its followers to either convert or kill.
the only line i agree in your comment is the first but only for your context.
i again request u to open ur eyes a little more but this time it is not for my comment but for yours!! read the quotation 3:151 set up so proudly by urself and see he word “EVIL”,”UNJUST” in it.this justifies ur “if it wanted to say- that these unbelievers are bad people- not non-Muslims- why does it not say so in a single verse?……..blah-blah” statement. even a child who is not exploited by anti–secular feelings can understand to whom this verse is addressed to. ur comment has made read 60-70 quotations from the sites of former-muslims but i did not find anything that had written the non-muslims will be massacred. please show any such quotation to prove me wrong.
for ur allegation regarding the way of punishment;i think that all the 3rd degrees given to the criminals by the police involves physical torture;although i agree not that severe.Now if u sit back and cry that terrorists and the criminals should not be given severe punishments such as ‘phhaansi’ i am sure u will be laughed at..
P.S- i am waiting for ur clear quotation