Fact: Undoubtedly, Muslims were killed in one-sided attacks in many places in the state- like in Naroda Patiya, Gulbarg Society, Naroda Gram, Sadarpura, Ode and other places, but by and large, the riots were not one-sided, and Muslims were hardly the cattle hiding from the slaughter house. As we have seen in a couple of earlier chapters, Muslims were equally on the offensive, at least after the first three days. Muslims killed Hindus brutally in Himmatnagar, Danilimda, and Sindhi Market and other areas of Ahmedabad, as reported by weekly India Today.
To read the full story of India Today–
http://archives.digitaltoday.in/indiatoday/20020415/states.html
See paragraphs 8,9,10,11 and 15 of this story in India Today
The Hindu reported that as early as 1st March 2002 itself, Muslims started violence in Ahmedabad. (See The Hindu’s report on this subject in its issue dated 2nd March 2002).
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/2002/03/02/stories/2002030203050100.htm
See last line of 9th paragraph from the top.
Reports of The Hindu on this subject throughout the months of March and April 2002 make it clear that Muslims were on the offensive, called the shots in many areas, drove out Hindus from their houses, started the riots in many cases. India Today’s report on this subject in its issue dated 15 April 2002 also points out this same thing. To read the full story of Attacks on Hindus, open the link.
Around 40,000 Hindus were forced to take shelter in refugee camps. The Dalits suffered heavily in the riots, only at the hands of the Muslims. On 23 March 2002, 50 Hindu shops were burnt in Ahmedabad’s Revdi Bazaar that caused a loss of 15 crore rupees.
See link:
The Muslims attacked the Hindus on 1st and 2nd March 2002 as well. They are on record starting as many as 157 riots in Gujarat after 3rd March 2002. They did not allow the police and the Army to search for criminals in their areas. They pelted the police and even the Army with bullets and stones, when they arrived to conduct search operations in Muslim areas. The Muslim women formed human chains and cut off power at night so that the criminals could flee with weapons (from the Army).
Link: http://www.indiatoday.com/itoday/20020415/states.shtml – Paragraph 15 from top
Seven judgments of different courts in Gujarat have sentenced 34 Muslims for rioting in Ahmedabad and Vadodara, post Godhra. On one occasion, 7 Muslims and on another occasion, 9 Muslims were convicted and punished for rioting and killing after Godhra. This will be seen in detail later.
The conviction of Muslims proves that Muslims were equally on the offensive-and not the cattle hiding from the slaughter house that the media makes them out to be.
To see a link for the conviction of 9 Muslims in Ahmedabad- on 28 March 2006- click here
http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=65065
7 Muslims were convicted on 18 March 2006-
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=174094
4 Muslims convicted on 18 May 2006-
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/postgodhra-riots-dna-test-nails-4-killers/4719/
A must see article on the role of the Gujarat Government in controlling violence is this:
http://www.gujaratriots.com/29/role-of-the-government-in-controlling-violence/
hi
you mentioned above abt the riots against muslims is exhagerated.
this so called human right agencies and so called secular think tanks have only aim is to raise issues that has the global attention & populrise themselves.
but they cant raise their voice against attrocities towards hindu kashniri pandits by kashmiri muslims.or hinu bangladeshis in bangladesh,
Real truth is that muslims are more extemist and fanatic than hindus.
whereever there is musliim majority areas they always try to dominate non muslims as non muslims are kafirs according to them.
in india there has been a record of igniting the riot only by the mslim community and hindus only react to their attrocities
You can see even no. one gangster dayd ibrahim who is betrayed to our country still have storng samarthan in muslim aocalities in mumbai.
its easy 2 blame..either the hindus or the muslims..so easy
al i have 2 say is that all these atrocities are committed by us humans…its not a story of degenaration of a particular clan or sect or religion…its a degeneration of humanity as a whole..be it muslims,b it hindus,b it christians..b it any one else…
so instead of doin a good job of blaming one should aim their energies in the betterment of humanity as a whole
Augriva
We are ready to accpet the Muslims, but ask them are they ready to accept the Hindus, we are ready to chant what they say in their mosques, but r they ready to say what we say in our temples, according to them we are kafirs, so please talk about humanity to muslims first, do some research on the net about their intolerance, and then talk about humanity for all
Augriva
We are ready to accept the Muslims, but ask them are they ready to accept the Hindus, we are ready to chant what they say in their mosques, but r they ready to say what we say in our temples, according to them we are kafirs, so please talk about humanity to muslims first, do some research on the net about their intolerance, and then talk about humanity for all
@ Common Man
i guess ur reply pretty much highlights the problem that i feel we seem to suffer from..the attitude of blaming others, unfortunately, in most situations do not yield solutions, temporary or permanent..
and at a personal level i DONOT believe in being ruthless if they are so..
we donot become ‘kafirs’ if they oor for that matter any else thinks so.on the contrary forgiveness and tolerance elevates mankind closer to god..
but i guess, he question always remain “how much should be tolerated”
i am not supporting their ways, just that i am doubting the efficacy of using violence against violence
@ Augriva
i guess u have pretty much summed up everything and given a reply to all the people by saying
‘ but i guess, the question always remain “how much should be tolerated” ‘
Well if you want you can become a Prithiviraj Chauhan and forgive them 17 times or become a Shivaji who defended himself and killed Afzal Khan and scared the senses out of Shaistakhan.
The Britishers were civilised people & they never left due to Gandhiji, who was fighting against them with non-violence for 27 years, but because after World War II, Britain could not hold on to its Empire.
These are un-civilised people who want to enforce a culture thats is of medival times on you and me. If you are not still convinced just check the percentages of women wearing burqas has increased in the last 10 years.
So now its time to say “Enough is Enough”. Just as Former Prime Minister John Howard of Australia said in a speech.
Minorities will always be abused anywhere around the world. aaj unka waqt hai,kal kisi aur ka waqt ayega. what goes up comes down with gravity. All i want to tell here is “there is still time to live in harmony. at the end of the day it’s humanity that has to be considered. Lakum di nakum waya deen, you believe what you want to believe. But at the end of the day a harmonios society will defend one another from calamities.
look at karnataka, Belgaum is divided , Hindus are both the Kannadigas and Marathas. Both want Belgaum to go either in Karnataka or Maharashtra. It reminds us of Jaichandra inviting Ghor to come to India and help defeat Prithviraj. Well what looks like is the same is going to repeat. India is a industrious country and these skirmishes will put us behind all the other bi economies. we have a chance to top all, but we are still grouping hatred and talking trash. agey badho aur jiyo. milkar jiyo. aaj ka politician kal ko mareyga, saath kya leyjaeyga, kuch bhi nahi. arey bacho jiyo aur jeeney do.
you have NOT WRITTEN ANYTHING ABOUT MUSLIMS NOT BEING BUCHTERED IN GUJARAT. YOU HAVE JUST WRITTEN ON WHEN THEY WERE IN OFFENSE. Totally unrelated to the topic in question. And Not a single mention on how many and where Hindus killed muslims. i dont agree with you.
The point is we just need to live in harmony & peace. Unless we all take living in peace from our hearts within, there might not be any future.
Mr Ravi- you are right in saying that this catagory mentions only instances when Muslims on the offensive. But thats what explodes the myth that the Muslims were ‘butchered’ like cattle and they were cattle hiding from the slaughter house. You are absolutely wrong in saying that this website does not mention suffering of Muslims. If you see- in Chapter 2 “Role of the government on controlling violence” they clearly mention attacks on Muslims by Hindus in Naroda Patiya and Gulmarg Society. Also they have devoted a complete chapter titled “Attacks on Muslims” to document the suffering of Muslims in the riots too.
This page talks about a newspaper called THE HINDU, according to HINDU this and that, let me tell you that this is the same newspaper which posted a story of Feb 28 about muslims dragging 10 hindu women into slums and raping them and cutting their breast, and after 2 weeks, it took that story back as saying it was misinformed about the story and nothing like that was confirmed…
You think this kind of news paper will report the truth? of course it will falsely report things that will only put more hatred out there.
The Hindu reported on Feb 28 that muslims dragged 10 Hindu women into slums and raped hem and cut their breast- and after 2 weeks went back on the story?????????
Can you post the link which says so? I read the Hindu- I can read it on the internet today-archives- NOWHERE HAVE I FOUND HINDU CARRYING THIS STORY.
And in any case- The Hindu is an extremely biased-anti-BJP newspaper. The Hindu has LIED THROUGH THE SKIN OF ITS TEETH that Muslims were butchered in Gujarat- and that what happened was a pogrom- when the fact is- that 254 Hindus were also killed in Gujarat-in riots caused by the Godhra carnage. Are you saying- the Hindu LIED that there was a minority backlash on 1 March? Are you saying that Hindu, Indian Express, all LIED that Army units reached Ahmedabad on Feb 28 night?????????????????
Ramesh seriously, do you just lie because it makes you ejaculate every time or you lie because you actually have a full time JOB from BJP to try to falsify every you find someone confronting the BJP and modi… modi is a looser who could not even talk on camera on NDTV, the sangh parivar is a big bunch of lairs and criminals, they lost in 2004, give it a few more months , then your mouth will be automatically shut up…
and for the link , you retard, this has been reported in numerous human right reports, go find a national reports of genocide in gujarat and you will find that the feb 28, the HINDU published this story to ignite sparks among hindu people that their women have been brutalized…looser
At times it makes me wonder if you are paid by ISI to lie- or whether you are full of so much hatred- that you lie intentionally.
I asked you to give the link of that paper- I can give it- and NOWHERE DOES THE HINDU MENTION THIS- that Muslims dragged Hindu girls and cut of their breasts. This may have reported in some local Gujarati dailies BUT NOT THE HINDU- which is an extremely anti-Hindu newspaper.
I am amused by your allegation on me- that I am lying. Thief shouting “Thief, Theif”!!!!!!!!! You are LYING THAT THE HINDU gave such a story- WHEN THE HINDU DID NOTHING OF THE SORT.
Merely putting wild allegations and calling Sangh Parivar people as liars and criminals- will not do anything. It was the BJP-led NDA which lost- which as the same pseudo-secular agenda as the UPA. Erstwhile NDA allies like TDP, DMK, AIADMK, PMK, LJP, JD(U), TC, NC etc were as pseudo-secular and minoritistic as the UPA. You are repeatedly quoting the 2004 Lok Sabha polls- let me remind you- that the BJP-led alliance won both in 1998 and 1999.
NOW TO EXPOSE YOUR LIES.
THIS IS THE LINK OF THE HINDU’S REPORT OF FEB 28. DOES IT SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/02/28/stories/2002022803070100.htm
Sure ramesh, THE HINDU will archive that section and put it on the web, this is just one section of the newspaper, how many poor Gujarati’s wake up every morning and go online acn read THE HINDU, what was printed on paper, was done for specific purposes, to create that spark that already was ready to ignited, and your agreeing that “may be some local dailies might have done” does the job. So not THE HINDU, but local dailies did it?? why did they put up a false story on their newspaper? what is the purpose to that? A responsible citizen of society would try to keep the harmony in such situation and not promote more hatred and give an platform for a riot.
Now let me actually ask you sumthing, you live in india, you are aware of the any tense situation on the border, it takes a while for the army to mobilize its men to the front and be ready for an eye for an ey with pakis, now you tell me how in the hell did 100,000 men all over gujarat mobilize within a day of the godhra fire??? I am talking about normal family men who had nothing to do with godhra carnage, as far as 100 kms from that area, all of sudden wake up next morning with daggers, swords, and trishuls and get accumulated outside the muslim communities and start the mayhem…waooo, these men should be recruited in the army no ramesh?? they are soo efficient and organizing and killing??
It is obvious that these plans were already in making, their are clear evidence that sangh criminals were distributing daggers, swords and other weapons inside Gujarat from months before this incident happen, they printed out hatred messages and distributed them among the hindu population asking them to stand up and kill the muslims and rape and loot when the time will come, you tell me what was the need of all this?? You tell me why were hindu houses marked with saffron flags days before the godhra even happened?? You tell me how the hell every mob leader had voters list in his hand, and you tell me why did muslim homes address and names were published in newspapers way before the godhra happened??
Godhra was just an excuse to carry out a clean genocide against a minority, preplanned, pre-organized by the sabngh parivar. If this was the anger of common man, does a normal poor man keep daggers, trishuls and acid in his house?? does he know each and every society where muslims reside in every big city ?? these men were agitated by the criminals and used their emotions to carry out their plans to imbecilic moron!!
Ha ha ha- DEEPAK YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN CAUGHT LYING- and skirting the issue. We are NOT talking of any local Gujarati daily- but a resaponsible and anti- BJP newspaper- The Hindu. You sought to rubbish The Hindu’s report that on 1 March the minority backlash worsened the situation-on grounds that THE HINDU carried false stories against Muslims. But when it is proved that The Hindu did nothing of the sort- and I challenged you to paste the link- you skirted the issue- and talked about the Gujarati media!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You claim that 1,00,000 people were assembled in Gujarat. This itself shows that no organization can ever manage to mobilize so many people. India Today weekly dated 18 March 2002 clearly quotes political analyst Arvind Bosnia saying- “It is beyond the means of the Sangh Parivar to organize riots on such a large scale. It was a spontaneous reaction to the brutal killings in Godhra”.
IF THE SANGH PARIVAR ORGANIZED THE RIOTS- WHILE DID NOT A SINGLE RIOT OCCUR IN SAURASHTRA AND KUTCH???????? WHILE DID THE SANGH PARIVAR SPARE ONE-THIRD OF GUJARAT FROM THE RIOTS??? WHY DID THE RIOTS OCCURE ONLY 40 VILLAGES OUT OF GUJARAT’S 18,600 VILLAGES-WHEN VHP HAS UNITS IN 10,000 OF THE STATE’S VILLAGES?????????????
And you are incorrect. Saffron is our colour.Whats wrong in putting saffron flags infront of our houses- before Feb 27 or after Feb 27? Your colonized mind forces you into thinking that it is WRONG TO HOIST A SAFFRON FLAG INFRONT OF OUR HOUSE???????
You say-“You tell me how the hell every mob leader had voters list in his hand, and you tell me why did muslim homes address and names were published in newspapers way before the godhra happened??”
Thats absolute rubbish. EVERY MOB LEADER DID NOT HAVE VOTERS LIST IN HIS HAND- who told you this? In the Naroda Patiya incident- nobody had voters lists in his hands-from where did you come to know this???????? It could be that in one or two cases voters lists were used- but then Muslims also attacked Hindus in Himmatnagar, Danilimda areas of Ahmedabad- and burnt 50 Hindu shops on March 23 2002 in Ahmedabad.
And as for Muslim names being published in the newspapers- where did this happen???????????? I never heard of this- which dailies published this and for what reason?????
You say-“Godhra was just an excuse to carry out a clean genocide against a minority, preplanned, pre-organized by the sabngh parivar. If this was the anger of common man, does a normal poor man keep daggers, trishuls and acid in his house?? does he know each and every society where muslims reside in every big city ?? ”
Really????????????????????? Only a blind man cannot see that the riots were a SPONTANEOUS uprising to Godhra- which was carried out by 2,000 fanatic Muslims. You are so INSENSITIVE- SO INHUMAN- THAT YOU HAVE DEHUMANIZED THE 59 HINDUS KILLED IN GODHRA- TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU DONT EVEN SEE THEIR BRUTAL ROASTING BY 2,000 FANATIC MUSLIMS AS A HUMAN TRAGEDY.
Who told you that a normal poor man kept draggers, trishuls in his house? Who told you that he knew each and every Muslim locality of the city????????? FOR YOUR INFORMATION- MOST OF THE MUSLIM LOCALITIES OF AHMEDABAD SUCH AS JUHAPURA, SHAH ALAM AREA, were untouched by Violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You accuse the Sangh Parivar of carrying out a pre-planned targetting of Muslims. Then why did the Sangh Parivar spare Saurashtra and Kutch- areas of Gujarat?????????? And all but 40 villages out of 18,600 villages in Gujarat???????
And what about the 254 Hindus killed in Gujarat?????? WAS THE KILLING OF THOSE 254 HINDUS- EVEN AFTER GODHRA- ALSO A PRE-PLANNED STRATEGY OF THE SANGH PARIVAR?????????????
RAMESH:
“Thats absolute rubbish. EVERY MOB LEADER DID NOT HAVE VOTERS LIST IN HIS HAND- who told you this? In the Naroda Patiya incident- nobody had voters lists in his hands-from where did you come to know this???????? It could be that in one or two cases voters lists were used- but then Muslims also attacked Hindus in Himmatnagar, Danilimda areas of Ahmedabad- and burnt 50 Hindu shops on March 23 2002 in Ahmedabad.
If I said they had voter’s list, and you right away say they did not, you tell me who told you they did not??? you seem to know everything that exactly went down, as you were part of the riots?? were you there yourself??? How come you know all the tru facts and no one else does??
I have ready more than 10 reports , extensive 100 page + reports made by different organization, NHRC, AMNESTY, PEOPLE’S TRIBUNALS and so on and they all talk about eye witnesses telling the same thing, so many people do not lie the same thing you fool, they all talked about the complicity of gujarat police, they did not help the innocents.
If some one tells me police were doing there job, then not even 50 people would have been killed, and since you agree that 1000 people were killed, then i think this is was a worst job done by a police of state to save people, if they were trying to protect people, this many would not have died at the first place…so your justifications numbers are all flawed…
Also I said 100,000 people mobilized across the state by different VHP units, see morons and sick people like you picky up just the numbers and do not try to look at the real fact…every major place where hindus fanatics rioted, the mobs were in number of 5000 or even stronger, sometime even crossing 10,000 now, you can roughly estimate what would be the condition of entire gujarat…
yea dude you will deny every fact like muslim people being isolated for targets, oh yea what is wrong with putting the saffron flags, the why the hell only on hindu homes, put them everywhere if you are proud, who had stopped you, and why put those flag right around this time…you have been in power so so many years, why were the flags not put in before?? this was all planned, orchestrated and carried out by VHP/BAJRANG DAL organizations, and the point that you even deny to accept that VHP and BAJRANG DAL are communal organization shows your utter ideology that supports this hindu fanatics, I already knew the first day i came t this site, the sole purpose of this site is to try to put down all the anger in people regarding human rights violation done in gujarat, obviously this site is created by one of these supporters of VHP and so on, because every myth he is trying to clear up is true and will remain true, because those who suffered are not lying…
DEEPAK
I agree that they may have used voters lists. I certainly was not there and I dont know whether they used or not.
But how do you know that they used lists? Were you there?
And tell me- why will they not use voters lists- when voters lists are displayed and anyone can access them?
Reports of these organisations like NHRC, Amnesty etc are biased. No one from these organisations has ever countered a single argument raised by this site.
Well they don’t need to because, BJP at that time did not even let them access Gujarat, that is enough to prove the complicity of the government, eventually witnesses are threatened, abused, who have already suffered, evidence are played with…everything goes the way governments want, that is the history of a corrupted nation, India ranks quite high up there with other countries in corruption levels, all this is related to it…
Enough here. We cant convince people who dont want to listen. If you have so much proof about bribed witnesses and government involvement- prove your charges in a court of law. You have made enough allegations- which are worth throwing in the dustbin.
you fool, you can’t convince a educated and unbiased population with you retarded statements. The truth is out there… you guys have nothing but some retarded wordpress blog sites to argue with everyone, where in fact organizations have come out hundreds of pages of reports on Gujarat, which have actually been published, what have you guys to your support?? any official documents that support you??? does media support you? does any social organization support you? because everyone knows what happened was totally wrong and was all planned by fanatics groups…you fool
Mr Deepak-
Only a man INCAPABLE OF DEFENCE AND ANY DOCUMENTATION can resort to the sort of arguments you are putting. WHY THE MEDIA- THE WHOLE WORLD CAN BE WRONG AND ONE MAN RIGHT- AS WAS THE CASE WITH GALILEO. You are much more than a mere fool. You are a lier- a hypocrite- and a closed-mindedness person- and most importantly- you do not have any proper debating skill. WHY ARE YOU BOTHERED AT WHO IS DEFENDING US AND HOW MANY SUPPORTERS WE HAVE? HAS THAT GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ARGUMENTS THIS SITE IS PASTING? NONE OF THE ORGANISATIONS AND ACTIVISTS AND MEDIA PEOPLE OR CONGRESS LEADERS HAVE EVER BEEN ABLE TO DISPROVE AND REFUTE A SINGLE ARGUMENT OF THIS SITE.
You have not seen the Report “GODHRA AND AFTER”- by the
COUNCIL FOR INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND HUMAN RIGHTS
See the link. And this was done by RETIRED HIGH COURT JUDGES. http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/10/facts-speak-for-themselves-godhra-and.html
Still you say- no team which visited Gujarat and saw the situation ever supported what we say?
Are you really serious??? you gave me a link to a “BLOGSPOT”, it is not even a real site, which a picture of Advani on the side and believe it for facts?? dude at least show me something that is credible and worth reading, this is just something posted on a prop BJP website, what re credentials for this shit??v just because it 20 names is the start doesn’t mean it is credible.. you are talking to me about debates, come on stage and I don’t make you pee in your pants in first 5 min of debates, I will never even consider for one my self Indian…even though im technically not anymore…but seriously, SHUT THE **** up and show me something credible…
for you shameless people…you fanatics, you slaughterers, filthy creatures hiding behind a human face… have a look and then i wish you die too…because you are defending the murderers…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8eM23dg-YU
for you shameless people again…watch how RSS gets money from abroad to kill in India..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZEQYktSzKM&feature=related
RSS gets funding to do terrorism in india from UK PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq0_dMiWGc8&feature=related
Something CREDIBLE????????
DUDE- that site is NOT OF BJP AND L K ADVANI- that is a REPORT DONE BY A COMMITTEE HEADED BY RETIRED CHIEF JUSTICE OF PUNJAB AND HARAYANA HIGH COURT. Its just that the blogspot has pasted the entire report on its blog.
You are not credible. Just because the report mentions the bitter truth- you are denying it. Are you questioning the Chief Justice of Punjab and Haryana High Court?
For your reference- http://www.geocities.com/hsitah9/facts_speak_for_themselves.htm
NOW THIS SITE GEOCITIES IS ONE OF THE MOST ANTI-BJP SITES. READ THE WHOLE REPORT PASTED ON IT- AND REWMOVE YOUR RED GLASSES.
you are as stupid as leaders of the party you support, that why no one wants to join hands with you and do anything. The previous report that you showed, i did read it, the 60% of the start is just stuck at gruesome burning of the hindu pilgrims,, it doesn’t even mention anything about conditions in relief camps, you moron that is it is obvious it is not credible!! It not credible because no one has published it anywhere, see I know how illiterate you are in these things, published reports are in places, or sources which re credible like govt agencies or organizations for welfare, not some some stupid GEOCITY or BLOGSPOT you sickle cell patient
and did you even watch the video link I gave you, listen to what ADDITIONAL DIRECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE, CHIEF INTELLIGENCE OFFICER OF GUJARAT, 2002 has to say about the aftermath of Godhra, he says he submitted hundreds of pages of report showing all the illegal orders that were given to the state machinery and police by Narendra modi govt, now you will call him pro congress too right you dumbnut??? you have bragging that the police helped muslims escape, then listen to his testimony, in front of people at AMNESTY INTERNATIONALS meeting in july 2008…LAIRS, Just bunch of filthy liers, murders and rapist you all are…i think you like to do the same to your own family if no one was really going to stop you , guys no one was there to stop these animals in 2002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8eM23dg-YU
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=gujarat%20riots&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
IN THE NAME OF FAITH…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6112470907104104444&hl=en
GREAT MR DEEPAK!
5000 Muslims were butchered were they?
Such LIERS LIKE YOU AND MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISTS ARE GOING TO GET ETERNAL PUNISHMENT IN HELL after death.
Such videos ARE PUT FORWARD BY FUNDAMENTALISTS AND LIERS- does this video counter a single argument put forward by this site?
Have you been able to put forward a single argument logically- EXCEPT FOR YOUR ABUSES?
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LIER- A MAN WITH CLOSED MIND- AN OSTRICH BURYING HIS HEAD IN THE GROUND- and most importantly- A HIGHLY ABUSIVE UNCIVILIZED PERSON- WITH ZERO DEBATING SKILL.
The biggest argument that I have is :
NO CAN EVER BELIEVE THAT ENTIRE MEDIA IS AGAINST ONE POLITICAL PARTY…THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE !!
ALL INTERNATIONAL MEDIA AND INDIAN MEDIA ARE SAYING THE SAME FACTS ABOUT GUJARAT GENOCIDE…AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE MADE THIS WEBSITE FOR ONLY PURPOSE, TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE ON TOPICS THAT ARE FABRICATED…
YOU WILL TRY TO JUSTIFY ONE MASSACRE IN NARODA PATIA BY SAYING THAT POLICE SAVED MUSLIM ON OTHER LOCATIONS…SO YOU MEAN BECAUSE THEY SAVED THEM IN ONE LOCATION, THEY CAN LET THEM DIE IN ANOTHER???
YOU CALL ME A LAIR, WHY DON’T YOU GO AND TELL THIS TO SUPREME COURT, WHO HAS JUST PUNISHED 11 VHP MEMBERS IN THE KILLINGS (2007), RIGHT NOW BJP LEADER MAYA KODNANI AND JAIDEEP PATEL ARE IN CUSTODY AND WILL SOON GO TO JAIL…
YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE THAT GOVT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH RIOTS, THEN HOW THE HELL ARE BJP LEADERS IN JAIL?? IF THE LAW BLIND?? ONLY YOUR THIS SITE IS TELLING THE TRUTH??
WHY CANNOT BJP FIND ANY SUPPORT IN ENTIRE INDIAN MEDIA…NOT ONE MEDIA GIANT HAS AGREED TO THIS FABRICATED EVIDENCES AND STORIES YOU AND YOUR KIND HAVE GIVEN…
THERE IS NO MORE LOGIC LEFT TO IT, TRUTH IS TRUTH…
GUJARAT GOVERNMENT LET INNOCENTS DIE IN INITIAL DAYS…THEY NEVER WANTED PEACE TO REMAIN, THAT’S WHY THEY LET FALSE NEWS IN PAPERS IN EARLY DAYS, THAT WHY THEY LET DEAD BODIES COME INTO AHMADABAD FOR A POSSESSION… THEY WERE CONSTANTLY SPREADING HATRED THROUGH THEIR POLITICAL ORGANS IN EVERY DISTRICT OF GUJARAT…THEY SPREAD WEAPONS INSIDE GUJARAT…
YOU TELL ME, WHY WERE VHP LEADERS CONFESSING ON VIDEO TJHAT THEY HAD MADE BOMBS IN THEIR OWN FACTORIES TO TEHELKA…EVEN IF TEHELKA STING WAS NOT RIGHT, THEY DID NOT FORCE THEM TO SPEAK ANYTHING, WHY DID THEY SAY THEY MADE ROCKET LAUNCHERS AND BOMBS ?? IN SPONTANEOUS REACTION, WHO HAS TIME TO MAKE BOMBS IN FACTORIES ???
Mr. Deepak,
Answers to many of your questions are there in this website itself. What happened in the first three days, why so many killing etc etc.
I suggest you to cross verify the points these guys are putting, try seeing is there any such news from TOI or IE or any other paper. If you find that whatever these guys arguments are regarding timeline is false bring it in, let us see that and then decide whether these guys are telling lies or not. That is the identification of an educated man.
You raised the issue of why RSS is not filing cases against the media, the answer to that is we do not have time to go behind this all the time. But there has been cases filed for crores of rupees notably against Sitharam Kesari, but these cases will go on for long and sangh is not interested in it. RSS will always try to do its work to the best of its abilities. Of late we have started an IT division which will take care of the PRO, but it has just started only, it will take some time to see the results.
Why the whole media is against RSS or Hinduthwa, let me put forward a few facts.
Suzanna Arundhati Roy is niece of Prannoy Roy (CEO of NDTV)
Prannoy Roy married to Radhika Roy
Radhika Roy is sister of Brinda Karat (CPI(M))
Brinda Karat married to Prakash Karat (CPI(M) – General Secretary)
There is no way NDTV will show anything good to india.
Rajdeep Sardesai was Managing Editor at NDTV
Rajdeep Sardesai married to Sagrika Ghose
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Sagarika Ghose’s aunt is Ruma Pal.
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Teesta Setalva member of PIPFD
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This is just a tip of the iceburg. All the major NGOs, channels etc have some or the other way connection (i mean “CONNECTIONS” ) with congress or left parties. So it is natural that they will talk against RSS and BJP.
It is you who is not realizing these and swallowing all the sweet talk and intellectual and verbal diarrhea given to you by these guys.
Regards
Arun
Barking about RSS being a responsible organization doing welfare?? Its members are not clearly behind the recent attacks in many parts of India specially in Ajmer and then train blasts?? what do you have to say about this good work done within india by RSS men mr. varun?? did u guys also open another IT dept for making bombs?/ and now slowly we are seeing the results??
Arun, probably u got ur VISA on the reserve quota of scheduled caste people from india, so you are very uneducated of the status of your organization here in US, just in case you were not aware, An American research centre has placed our ultra-nationalist Rashtrya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) on its terrorist list. The East Virginia-based Terrorism Research Center (TRC) is closely connected to the American government and many of its directors and researchers have closely worked with US administrations and have taken part in research and planning for the US administration.
Mr. Deepak,
You need a VISA to stay here not me. I am born here stupid LOL….
You can search on the many reaserch done in various other universities in USA and around the world about RSS.
We donot have TIME yes. I know that there is a requirement of 100-150 volunteers every year for RSS to take on the various welfare work it does. But what we get is people like you and Muthalik, who is totally biased and uneducated. So it will have to suffer from the issue they create. But we still work in the villages of India and in the minds of many youths there who wants to work for the upliftment of Hindus.
Regards
Arun
Every body in this forum is well aware of who is by the way a big “MISTAKE” HAHAHAHAHA…
Thank you very much for pooving this absolutely.
Does Everyone in INDIA know that BJP is again on the track loosing these LOK SABHA ELECTION?? I will HAHA to that bitch!!
@deepak
Are you a new convert of the corpse on the stick cult:D
Its hilarious reading your vituperative comments. Are you another of those brown skinned indigenous priests enrolled in Project Joshua? Or do you drive a good old Taxi?
In India, every Muslim believes US is terrorist No. 1:D…go and tell your Muslim brothers about the views of your anti-terrorist organization.
After that get your hands bashed, and your head smashed
Why are Hindus always abused….80,000 temples destroyed by Jihadis and Inquisitionaries, 80 million Hindus killed by the same, country divided and still not satisfied
Good expose…every Hindu should read
These findings should be published in newspapers
Modi for PM
Modi will also get clean chit from SIT
u should also write on Teesta Setelvad being exposed
All Indians vote for development: vote for Modi
Defamation of Gujaratis and Hindus must STOP
The truth must be hard for sickularists to follow
These findings are a real eye opener…I am going to buy the book
NEW DELHI: The Special Investigation Team responsible for the arrests of those accused in Gujarat riots has severely censured NGOs and social
activist Teesta Setalvad who campaigned for the riot victims.
In a significant development, the SIT led by former CBI director R K Raghavan told the Supreme Court on Monday that the celebrated rights activist cooked up macabre tales of wanton killings.
Many incidents of killings and violence were cooked up, false charges were levelled against then police chief P C Pandey and false witnesses were tutored to give evidence about imaginary incidents, the SIT said in a report submitted before a Bench comprising Justices Arijit Pasayat, P Sathasivam and Aftab Alam.
The SIT said it had been alleged in the Gulbarg Society case that Pandey, instead of taking measures to protect people facing the wrath of rioteers, was helping the mob. The truth was that he was helping with hospitalisation of riot victims and making arrangements for police bandobast, Gujarat counsel, senior advocate Mukul Rohtagi, said quoting from the SIT report.
Rohtagi also said that 22 witnesses, who had submitted identical affidavits before various courts relating to riot incidents, were questioned by the SIT which found that they had been tutored and handed over the affidavits by Setalvad and that they had not actually witnessed the riot incidents.
The SIT also found no truth in the following incidents widely publicised by the NGOs:
* A pregnant Muslim woman Kausar Banu was gangraped by a mob, who then gouged out the foetus with sharp weapons
* Dumping of dead bodies into a well by rioteers at Naroda Patiya
* Police botching up investigation into the killing of British nationals, who were on a visit to Gujarat and unfortunately got caught in the riots
Rohtagi said: “On a reading of the report, it is clear that horrendous allegations made by the NGOs were false. Stereotyped affidavits were supplied by a social activist and the allegations made in them were found untrue.”
The SIT also found no truth in the following incidents widely publicised by the NGOs:
* A pregnant Muslim woman Kausar Banu was gangraped by a mob, who then gouged out the foetus with sharp weapons
* Dumping of dead bodies into a well by rioteers at Naroda Patiya
* Police botching up investigation into the killing of British nationals, who were on a visit to Gujarat and unfortunately got caught in the riots
Rohtagi said: “On a reading of the report, it is clear that horrendous allegations made by the NGOs were false. Stereotyped affidavits were supplied by a social activist and the allegations made in them were found untrue.”
what narendra Modi did was very less
of course… he should actually burned hindus along with muslims…because for him all of you are slaves …HAHA
SIT did not say that rapes did not happen in the riots at all, they did not find any evidence in relation to Kausar Bano, but you are ignorant and shameless if you deny that mobs raped innocent women… everyone is aware that mobs raped women as young as 11 and as old as 60…you shameless creature there are hundreds of pictures on the web displaying the horrifying acts of the rioting mobs…
now you will sayy what about 58 hindus who were burned to death… soo did killing of thousands if innocents after train carnage solve the problem or bring back those who had died?
It is always innocents who pay the price for the communal game leaders play…they create tension among societies and innocents get killed, then terrorist bomb cities and even then innocents get killed, what was the last time any BJP leader gave his life for the cause of hindus?? These rats talk so loud and big for the country, did any of them ever die in a bomb blast? or any other riots??
THEY ARE GOOD AT INSTIGATING POOR MOBS AND THEN HAPPILY WATCH THE MAYHEM AND SIT OF THE COMMUNAL VOTE!!
hats off to u deepak
No point in talking to a foul-mouthed abusive man like Deepak- but I will only point out the factual errors.
1- Shyama Prasad Mukherjee of the Jana Sangh sacrificed his life for integration fo Kashmir with India in 1953
2- Deen Dayal Upadhyay was also martyred in 1968
3- Hundreds of RSS men were killed in Dadra and Nagar Haveli in 1954
4- 50 BJP cadres were killed in bomb blasts in Coimbatore in 1998-that nearly killed L K Advani
5- 4 RSS officials were brutally killed in Tripura in 2001 after being held captive and tortured for over one year
6- 4 BJP leaders were brutally murdered by Muslims- for which Muslims were given life imprisonment- in Tirucherapalli in Tamil Nadu in 1998
7- RSS cadres are brutally killed in Kerala, West Bengal and Tripura by CPI(M) thugs
This is endless. This can go on and on…
And of course 59 Hindus- including 25 women and 15 children were roasted in Godhra…
But for you people- these people are not even worth human beings- and are even worse than animals- that their killing is perfectly justified- and they should be even more brutally killed maybe…
And in this murder case in Tirucherapalli- the BJP chief of this city was murdered. 4 RSS men killed in Tripura were all top officials- and killed by Catholics.
The RSS office in Chennai was bombed by Muslims in 1993 which killed 14 RSS cadres…
More than 829 RSS cadres were martyred in Kerala alone from 1994 to June 2002- more than the total number of Muslims kille din the entire period of riots…
RSS CADRES MARTYRED??? THIS LOOKS LIKE WHEN JAISH E MOHAMMAD SAYS OUR JIHADIS HAVE BEEN MARTYED.
PEOPLE WHO COME ON STREETS TO KILL INNOCENTS ARE NEVER CALL MARTYRS, RSS CADRES ARE TERRORIST AGONIZING AND TERRORIZING THE NATION, THEY ARE NOT ANY SOLDIER WHO IS SAVING LIVES YOU FUCKTARD…NO ONE TELLS THEM TO TAKE SWORDS AND COME ON STREETS TO KILL AND RAPE!!
Your murderous mentality exposed again- you think of RSS cadres as someone worth being killed- not even fit to live as human beings…and of course your language!
And instead of calling them TERRORISTS -which in reality- you are- I suggest you even try to ban the Hindu Swayamsewak Sangh in USA..Where Hindus are a horrible minority- why dont you do so?
It’scalled Rashrtiya SwayamSevak Sangh you looser not Hindu!! and does it matter if they are not BANNED in US when there ideology has been slapped in a gutter by Indian people in India??
Look at you leader ADVANI and MODI now hiding in their holes… sala sochta tha PM banega, bhuddhe ki shakal JAMADAR se milti hai, shayad wohi naukri mil jaye usko…
B J P = BHARAT JALAO PARTY
V H P = VULGAR HINDU PARTY
R S S = RAPIST SEXIST SAMAJ
B D = BELAGAM DONKEYS
what else?? Ramesh Mantri — Slave of Advani, and legal seed of Modi 🙂
Deepak Bhai,
sacchai ko sweekar karo, sirf ghatiya zabaan istmaal karne se sach dab nahi jaata ya badal nahi jaata.
agar aap itne sacche ho to logically proof dekar yeh saare myths ko jhootha saabith karo. gaali galoch se kuch nahi sabit hota.
proof rakho taaki hame bhi sacchai ka pata lage.
@Hindu,
Leave this man in peace. We have put forward your argument- many times. He said he will not post any more on this “…(abusive word) site”. Welcome his decision and leave him in peace.
Mr Deepak- you are free to propagate your views on RSS- anywhere worldwide. I think you have nothing more- nothing new- to say on this site. What language to use- is also your choice. All I can say is- kindly stop this abusive campaign here.
Mr Ameen,
You are free to propagate your views. However- factual errors should be avoided. The blatant lie that no RSS or other Sangh Parivar member ever died in any attack is utter rubbish- we have given a lot of details for that.
And as expected- you people do not even consider RSS cadres as human beings. When we pointed out so many cases of RSS and Sangh Parivar men dying in bomb blasts and terrorist attacks- Mr Deepak did not admit his mistake- of being factually wrong- and instead said- “These people are terrorists…its like terrorists being killed”.
Well- that simply reveals your level of civilized behavior.
The most significant aspect which lends credibility to the UC Banerjee Commission’s report on the cause of the Sabramati Express fire in Godhra on February 27, 2002 is the testimony in sworn affidavits by three senior IPS officers of the Gujarat cadre who held important positions at the time of the incident.
The three key officials, Raju Bhargava, then SSP, Panchmahal district, RVSreekumar, additional DGP of the state Intelligence Bureau, and Rahul Sharma, then DCP, police control room, Ahmedabad, have not only corroborated the retired Supreme Court judge’s findings leading to his conclusion that the train fire was accidental but have provided enough evidence to suggest that if there was a conspiracy then the state was in it.
The statements of the three officials have come as a major embarrassment for the Gujarat government and the Sangh Parivar, which all along have maintained that the fire was a result of a conspiracy to eliminate the kar sewaks who were returning from Ayodhya in the ill-fated coach on February 27.
It is therefore not surprising that fresh attempts are being made to debunk the panel’s findings even before it is tabled in Parliament. Chief Minister Narendra Modi and his colleagues have described it as “politically motivated” and aimed at appeasing the Muslim vote bank.
However, Bhargava and Sreekumar have made it clear that the Gujarat police district administration as well as the CID had no information about the return of the kar sewaks from Ayodhya that morning.
Prior information about their departure for Ayodhya was documented in their records but no information about their return had come to the notice of the state government or the police. The question that arises is that when the state CID was not aware about the movement of the kar sewaks then how did people of Godhra know all this.
Rahul Sharma, who was asked to assist in the investigations by the then police chief, had conducted a scientific study of the cell phone numbers provided by VHP activists who had alleged that the Godhra incident was a result of conspiracy with Pakistan’s ISI and directions had been received from Pakistan by local Muslims on these numbers. The allegation was made in an affidavit filed by the VHP.
Sharma who conducted the probe concluded that no call was either made or received on the cell phone numbers provided by the VHP from Pakistan. Attempts were made by Gujarat home secretary GC Murmu to influence the testimony of Sreekumar, which the latter did not agree to.
The Banerjee panel had earlier sent 14 summons to Gujarat state officials without any response. Only after the panel got the status of a commission did the police and state government officials came forward.
The acceptance of the report could also lead to the prosecution of a number of politicians, who, by creating a wrong perception about Godhra, fanned the worst communal conflict in the history of Gujarat � all this to win an election?
wait and watch….. muzahiddin r coming to kill u and ur rascal leaders . death to r.s.s. i do not oppose all hindus longlive isalm . wait fore death
Death will come to fanatics kiling in the name of religion- because of people like Ali Sina- http://www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
FANATICS ON THIS SITE KEEP SAYING THAT WE HAVE A GREAT CULTURE IN INDIA, HINDUISM THIS AND THAT , BLA BLA BLA
REAL TRUTH, ALL OVER THE WORLD IS THAT : PEOPLE MAKE THE CULTURE, CULTURE DOES NOT MAKE PEOPLE.
Which means, Indians cannot brag about a culture of past to tell the world what they are today, what they re doing today is what they culture is, that is their true culture. And today;’s INDIA is uncompetitive, corrupt, shameless, ruthless and far worse than its neighbors in terms of HEALTH CARE, SOCIAL STRUCTURE AND DEFENSE of the country…shame on INDIA…
Before anything is done to Muslims those who are Hindus but pretend themselves to be secularist are required to be killed.Muslims would become as docile as rebits.The seculerists are the real animies of Hindus.
Sit report to supreme court stated that the ngo teesta setalad has doctored the affadavits including zaheera’s which she has openly told in the courts she was made to sign the affadavits by teestha and her assitant and infact has been threatened by the two of them. I wonder what’s the secular brigade has o say about it.
Its so convieneint for some people and politicians to forget about 1984 sikh massacre and keep making stories about gothra. Why do they not want the truth to come out………….
Who killed whome is not the question. The organised killings and rapes by the members of so called HINDUTVADI parties like RSS/BJP and VHP are condemnable.
WHy no RSS / BJP leader has condemned the killings?
Why no SHANKARACHARYA has came to guide HINDUS and condemne the rapes and killings?
Every Muslim leader has condemned the GODHRA killings, the silence of Hindu parties speaks their role in the genocide.
Just answer my 1 simple question what if hindus burn the train & kill muslim in pakistan can you imagine faith of Hindus 1/2% in pakistan ,what muslim & extremist muslim what to sense in India on how much back foot hindu scan go ,they thus do these sort of activity again & again.
Now tell me 01 incidence in world or history of mankind when riots are done against muslim it is muslim who incite and initiate riot as they think taht it is there general right for riot but suppose if they are hurt tahn it is problem.
HINDUS ISLAMIC FORCES CAN NEVER SIT IDLE THEY ARE ALWAYS READY TO ASSULT IN INDIA INTERNALLY EXTERNALLY FOR WE HAVE ABUNDANCE OF PIGS IN OUR SOCIETY TO SAFEGUARD THEM ,SO BE ON VIGIL AND ALERT /IT IS LUCK & ASHIRWAD OF OUR MOTHER GODDESS /GOD THAT INSPITE OF SO MANY KATUAS WE ARE STILL IN OK SHAPE.
DEFINITEL FEW MUSLIMS ARE OK BUT THERE % IS MARGINAL AND LEAST EFFECT ON SOCIETY WHO ARE BLOOD THIRSTY AND CRAVING TO MAKE HINDUSTAN ANOTHER PAPISTAN.
Whatever said and done, see now there are no riots in Gujarat. Unless there is a strong response these Muslims will not keep quite.
The main problem is the attitude of some Muslim people who do not tolerate existance of other faith. And they try, in every way, to impose the things practiced by themselves upon others: five times pray, allah has made us to pray him etc. etc.
There are many other religions (Jain, Sikh, Buddhists etc.) with which there is no communal conflict. Why it happens only with Muslims? Because, their religious teachers teach them; they are intolerant.
They think that this attitude will, one day, wipe out other faiths out of the subcontinent. Muslim religious leaders enrage innocent uneducated people and push them into such activities.
I believe that India should focus more and more in education. More the people is educated, and employed less the people will be attracted to bigoted religious preaching and peace will prevail.
stupid hamza if mujahidin cant do like your expectation .If they will try
to kill innocent people,all muslims are killed by our indian army.
I read this website…well its all about fanatism.The idealogy is no less than a Taliban.It not about a muslim being killed or a hindu..its about a human being killed. Killing of hindus in godhra was wrong… so was the killing of muslims in riots.Killing of 64 hindus cannot be a justification point to kill another 1000 muslims and “VICE A VERSA”.
The problem with fanatics and illetrate people are that they mix religion and nationalism. These 2 things are different.We have allways placed our relgion first then our country which is wrong.No religion teaches hatred.Feeling of revenge will allways lead to distruction.
Dont promote hatred among indians through your website… promote unity and peace..otherwise we will keep on fighting… so brother.. be we need to be indian first then hindu or muslims… JAI HIND
Welcome to the RSS terrorism…
When a muslim explodes himself, RSS/VHP/BJP cll is Islamic terrorism.
Now eventually, it will be in light that RSS men that are arrested all over india have definite roles in blasts all over india, now how do we peaceful HINDUS feel if the nation calls this Hindu terrorism??
Isn’t this hindu terrorism?? Devendra Gupta is a hindu…so anything terrorist type he does is HINDU TERRORISM RIGHT???
To all people who live in lala Land and try and be all modern , First accept and acknowledge history and then preach secualrism and so so
An intriguing letter written by a learned man
Here is my response to Kaleem Kawaja’s letter titled “Why Hindus are angry at Muslims in India,” published in the India Tribune of August 2, 2008. Hindus have not just one but one million reasons to be angry at Muslims in India. Let me list only a few of them for Mr. Kawaja’s kind-hearted understanding, even though I believe Mr. Kawaja is deliberately acting to be ignorant of the reasons behind this Hindu mindset and the history – past and present. So, I will try to make it as simple and as clear for him as possible… and, for all those ‘secularists’ and Leftists who pretend to be naive just like Mr. Kawaja.
1. First of all, Hindus hold Muslims responsible for the vivisection of their country that they consider as their MOTHER. Hindus adorably call it Bharat-Mata, Matru-Bhoomi, Puniya-Bhoomi, Dharma-Bhoomi, Swarag-Bhoomi, etc.
2. Hindus cannot understand why the Muslims are still living in India. It is a well-known fact that in 1946 elections, more than 90% of the Muslims voted for the breakup of the greater India and the creation of a Muslim land called Pakistan. Despite getting their Muslim land – believe it or not – only 15% Muslims left for the Pakistan and 85% of them stayed put in India. Hindus really want all these Muslims living in India to leave Hindus alone in their country.
3. Hindus are upset that Muslims are having a cake and want to eat it too. Thus, Hindus can see that Muslims have opened a separate bank account for Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh, while they are operating a joint bank account with Hindus in India. This is not right and absolutely unfair. Hindus do not want to share the India with Muslims.
4. Again, at the time of Partition of India in 1947, there were 20% Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan. Now there are only 1% or so. In 1947 there were more than 30% Hindus in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), at this time there are only 8% Hindus there. Hindus want Muslims to explain what happened to all those Hindus. Hindus are absolutely unhappy about the ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
5. Conversely, during the same period the Muslim population in India has been rising with leaps and bounds. Muslim numbers in India have risen from 9% in 1951 to 15% now. Hindus abhor this. In the unprecedented rise of Muslim population in India, Hindus clearly see a mortal threat to their very existence as Hindus. They see this as a conspiracy to breakup and divide their country all over again.
6. Hindus simply will never be able to forget the massive scale of rapes, murders, loot and mayhem let lose by Muslims on the peaceful Hindus in Kashmir and the vicious ethnic cleansing in their own country.
7. How can Hindus forget massacre of our 35 Sikh brothers at Chattisinghpora in the State of Jammu and Kashmir in year 2000, an attack on Jammu and Kashmir State Legislature in October, 2001, another attack on the India’s National Parliament in December 2001, yet another attack on the American Cultural Center in January 2002, the roasting alive of 56 women and children in February 2002 at Godhra Railway Station in Gujarat State, the killing of more than 30 members of families of Army personnel in May 2002, serial bomb attacks on passenger trains and public places in the country’s financial capital Mumbai on August 2005 that killed 46 people and injured 160, another devilish attack on the Hindu religious place, the Akshardham Temple in September 2002 – 29 individuals including 16 women and four children killed, the butchering of Hindus in Mau in State of Uttar Pradesh, the Delhi bomb blasts in October 2005 – 70 people killed, massacre of Gujjars in Doda and Udhampur, in State of Jammu and Kashmir in May 2006, a second series of Mumbai train bomb blasts in July 2006 – 200 people dead, a separate series of bomb blasts in Lucknow, Varanasi, Jaipur, Ahmedabad and Bangluru – hundreds killed.
8. While Hindus in Jammu agitating for the legitimate rights of Hindu pilgrims in Amernath raise the slogan of Bharat Mata ki Jai, the Muslims in Srinagar, to the great mortification and chagrin of Hindus, wave green flags of Pakistan and openly raise the slogans of Pakistan Zindabad (long live Pakistan)! This treacherous behavior of Muslims is unacceptable and outrageous to Hindus and causes a serious heartburn to them.
9. Recently, in a shocking disclosure, India’s National Security Advisor, M.K. Narayanan while talking to newsmen in Singapore disclosed that 800 terrorist cells are operating in the country. These home grown terrorists are none other than the Indian Muslims who provide shelter, guidance, financial assistance and other infrastructure facilities to the terrorists to kill more and more Hindus and destabilize Indian economy. Hindus have every reason to express their indignation and angst at this blatant anti-national activity.
10. All Kashmiri Muslims are doing roaring business all over India. There are Haj Houses all over the country. But the Muslim leaders are openly and repeatedly declaring that they would not give “an inch of land” in Hindu India to Shri Amarnath Shrine Board. What an act of ingratitude!
11. Hindus simply cannot erase from their memory the Great Killings of Calcutta on August 16-17, 1946 in which more than 5,000 Hindus were butchered by Muslim fanatics supported by the Muslim Chief Minister of Bengal. Hindus also vividly recall the genocide of 5,000 unarmed Hindus in Noakhali in Bengal State around the same time. Hindus simply cannot forget the beastly brutalities perpetrated by the West Pakistani Muslim military establishment on the East Pakistan Hindus during the Bangladesh uprising in 1971. Events like these are unparalleled in the history of humanity.
12. Describing the unimaginable capacity of the Muslim mind to conduct the dance of devil, Mr. A. Ghosh, the celebrated author of book “Kafir and Quran,” writes: “In many cases a whole community (of Hindus in East Pakistan) was encircled. Mothers and daughters were raped on a mass scale, in presence of brothers or fathers. Breasts of elderly ladies were chopped off. Pregnant women were disemboweled; infants’ heads were smashed on the floor. Then followed the chopping off of genitals, gouging out of eyes, and on and on and on. As a grand finale, everybody was put in a house and the house was set on fire.”
13. Hindus also remember very well as to how the Sikh Guru Arjun Dev was made to sit on a hot plate over the raging fire and the hot sand was poured over his body… until he died. Hindus and Sikhs will never be able to forget as to how another Sikh Guru, Teg Bahadur Saheb, was murdered in cold blood by the Muslims because he refused to convert to Islam. Hindus remember the two young sons of the last Sikh Guru, Gobind Singh, who were bricked alive by the Muslim ruler, as they refused to embrace the Islam.
14. For the information of Mr. Kawaja, listed here are only a few of the Muslim militant organizations that preach hatred and violence against the Kafirs… principally the Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists… and are working overtime to establish Nizame-Mustafa (the Islamic domination) in India: (1) Muslim Volunteer Force, (2) Islamic Revolutionary Front, (3) Islamic Liberation Army of Assam, (4) Jamait-e-Islami, (4) Hurriyat Conference, (5) Jamit-al-Quran Hadis, (6) Tamilnadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam, (7) Al Ummah, (8) Islamic Movement of India, (8) Student Islamic Movement of India (the notorious SIMI), (9) Islamic Youth Center, (10) Jihad Committee, (11) Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam, (12) Muslim Liberation Front of Assam, (13) Al Huda, (14) Jehad, (15) Tehreek-ul-Mujahideen, (16) National Democratic Front, (17) Mili Parliament, (18) Indian Muslim Mohammadi Mujahideen, and (19) Indian Mujaheden. The principal aim of all the above groups is the annihilation of Hindus.
15. Hindus in India and the Indian subcontinent have witnessed an unprecedented continued chain of barbarism by Muslims in the last 1400 years. In 712 A.D., the then Governor of Iraq sitting two thousand miles away from the Indian capital Delhi, ordered the Iraqi Muslim ruler in India to bring about the destruction on unbeliever Hindus (unbeliever: the Hindus that do not believe in Islam) if they did not accept Islam. The historical chronicles tell us that in the merciless slaughter that ensued, 26,000 Hindu men were murdered and 20,000 young Hindu girls were enslaved and dispatched to Khalifa in Baghdad.
16. Akbar was the slaughterer of Hindus. Jahangir, in his autobiography “Tarikh-i-Salim Shahi” wrote that under Akbar and Jahangir “five to six hundred thousand (over half a million) Hindus were killed.” (Tarikh-i-Salim: Translated By Price, pp. 225-6). In Akbar’s military conquest of Chittor in the State of Rajasthan, Abul Fazl recorded that “on Akbar’s orders, eight thousand Rajput warriors were first disarmed and then slain; along with them forty thousand peasants also were slain.” (The Islamic treatment of PoW, Surah 8, Ayat 67, the Quran) (Akbarnama by Abul Fazl translated into English by H. Beveridge)
We can go on and on and on… with the never-ending saga of Muslim misdeeds against the Hindus. Hindus may not have readily available with them the specific details of the each one of the above acts of extreme Muslim brutality. The Hindu ‘secular’ leadership also takes extreme pains to ensure that the endless trails of Muslim atrocities… against the Hindus… do not get recalled, remembered, written, memorialized, entered in history books, or spoken from the public platforms. But the naked truth is that the painful wounds of Muslim savagery, treachery, betrayal, deceit, dishonesty, disloyalty, duplicity… on the naïve Hindu psyche… are too numerous to count and too deep to heal.
These painful sores of history – the distant past and still ongoing – have traumatized the Hindus so much and for so long that they just cannot be healed, nor can their memory be completely erased from the Hindu subconscious mind. Hindu mind will continue to be haunted and tortured at the slightest glimpse of the classic pattern of Muslim dishonesty and betrayal.
Does Mr. Kawaja need any more reasons, any more examples, to explain why Hindus don’t trust Muslims and why they appear to be angry at Muslims
Dear All Hindus,
Now a days Muslim Population in India growing faster than Hindus. Our political parties are not helpful for us except (BJP).In this way of growing they will dominate us within this century.Again we will slave to Muslims like Mugal Period.I am really worried,Please do positive step for us People Like Mr.Roy who commented in this article can do.
and Congress Government should take care of this matter.Otherwise we will suffer a Lot.I am not against all the Muslims.But comparatively Hindus are secular than Muslims.If in India Hindus are majority there is no problem for Muslims.But if it is change, there is a real problem for all Hindus. Mr.Roy wrote in this article what a worst atrocities happened for Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh? In those countries Hindus population is decreases.But here Muslim population is growing.I request all of the Hindu Leaders of all parties Please take care this matter.It will create a threat to Indian Integrity within 20 years.
the only solution is ‘ Hindu must leave castism & other Hindu Boys must start Marrying Muslim Girls, that is the only solution.
u r a bloody coward mr. deepak. you are afraid of muslims thats why u are indirectly supporting them..
What Hindus and What Muslims. Those who are burning with anger over religious reasons may advocate murders and rape. But a true human being cannot. I am an Indian Muslim. If I go four or five generation back, my ancestors were Hindus. So for what reasons I must be killed.
this is ridiculous…its like if one country gets outnumbered in a war…the minority country acts a victim of abuse…when actually it started the war, then realized the enenmy is too large for them
ag lagane vale khud ag me jal gaye,
What I don’t understand is that Hindus are just not united. Why do you think there is a Muslim vote bank? If Hindus are united they themselves can become a vote bank, and what a massive vote bank it would be. Too much caste differences. The Muslim doesn’t make a difference between a Christian, Jew or Hindu, what makes you think that he would treat you differently according to caste? Both would be treated as the kafir. If you look at Muslim countries, rights of non-Muslims are severely curtailed. Gujarat there is in the form of state sanctioned second class citizenry.