Fact: This much-repeated nonsensical allegation is baseless. Narendra Modi frantically called the Army units to Ahmedabad on February 28- as per the report of The Hindu the next day. India Today weekly’s report ‘Chronology of a Crisis’ on this topic in its issue dated 18 March 2002 also proves this beyond doubt.
The full details of the steps taken by the Gujarat Government to control violence can be read in this article:
http://www.gujaratriots.com/29/role-of-the-government-in-controlling-violence/
Before seeing this issue, let us remember the following facts. In an interview given by Narendra Modi to Outlook magazine in its issue dated 18 March 2002–
“Were you playing the fiddle while Gujarat burned?
No. Contrary to what is now being projected, I brought sanity within 72 hours of the violent outbreak…”
Note Narendra Modi’s sentence “No. Contrary to what is now being projected, I brought sanity within 72 hours of the violent outbreak.” In other words, the projection against Modi started AFTER the riots. We have already seen the reports of the newspapers like The Hindu, The Telegraph to note that there were no allegations against Narendra Modi or the Gujarat Government at the time of the actual riots. They started much later. Doordarshan news said on 3rd March 2002 (Sunday) at night in the English bulletin: “Violence has ended in a record time in Ahmedabad…Only 3 days…In the past it would take many weeks… Today (Sunday) curfew was relaxed, people bought items from bazaar…”. No allegation against the state government but praise of controlling violence in just 3 days! All accusations on Narendra Modi and demands for his resignation, dismissal started AFTER the riots. This was because, the media wanted some scapegoat to be made for the riots. It wanted Modi to sack a few police officers, drop a minister or two. But Modi did nothing of the sort. He did not blame anyone, did not make anyone a scapegoat. In an interview to NDTV broadcast on 20 March 2004, Narendra Modi said to Shekhar Gupta (Editor of The Indian Express): “You all wanted that someone be made scapegoat. I did not do that. I allowed you to break all pots on my head alone. You have all decided, all these riots happened under this man (Narendra Modi). Until this man is removed from the Chief Minister’s post, we will not rest in peace. My best wishes to you in your mission.” Narendra Modi did not resign, and the BJP did not dismiss him, so the media was livid.
The fact is that the Army staged a flag march in Ahmedabad, Vadodara, Surat and Godhra on 1st March- i.e. the 2nd day. So there was no question of giving anyone a free hand. The blatant lie was repeated many times in the media. The TV channel CNN-IBN on its Hindi channel reported on 26 October 2007 by writing on TV screens: “There was given 3 days time to kill in Gujarat”. The fact is- out of the 3 days the Army was present in 2 days and the extent of violence was far less as compared to the first day. The Hindu itself reported on 3rd March 2002 that the situation improved in Ahmedabad on 2nd March i.e. the 3rd day of the riots. The Tribune reported on 3rd March 2002 that:
“(On 2nd March) Ahmedabad, the worst hit by the communal flare-up in the wake of Godhra train killings, was virtually back to normal…” That is, the Gujarat Government managed to control riots in the state in 3 days after Godhra, and in only 2 days in a communally ultra-sensitive place like Ahmedabad!
Moreover-there was already a minority backlash on the 2nd day of the riots- i.e. on 1st March the Muslims started a backlash in Ahmedabad- as reported by The Hindu the next day. The question of the next two days does not arise, even on February 28- when the Army was not present- the police shot dead 10 Hindus in Ahmedabad alone and 16 were injured. 700 were arrested and close to 2,000 tear gas shells were also burst. The police fired around 1,000 rounds- out of which 600 were fired in Ahmedabad alone-on February 28. Police saved 2500 Muslims from certain death in Sanjeli- a town in North Gujarat on 1st March 2002- i.e. the 2nd day of the riots.
Narendra Modi did not even give 3 minutes- not to talk of 3 days to the rioters. He had ordered 827 preventive arrests on February 27 itself- and given shoot-at-sight at Godhra on February 27 itself at 9:45 AM- only 2 hours after the Godhra carnage. The entire police force was deployed in Gujarat in view of apprehension that riots might break out on February 27 itself. The Rapid Action Force was deployed in Ahmedabad and other sensitive areas and the Centre sent in CRPF personnel-on February 27 itself! All this was reported by various English newspapers-like The Indian Express, The Times of India, The Tribune, The Hindustan Times etc the next day- i.e. 28 February.
To see the report- click on the link- http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2256789.cms
The Tribune’s report can be read on- http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020228/main1.htm
Also- Defence Minister George Fernandes was in Ahmedabad on 1st March at 1:00 AM on Narendra Modi’s request. And the next day- he was bravely on Ahmedabad’s streets at a great risk to personal life. If Modi gave a free hand for 3 days- then why did he call George Fernandes?
On Feb 27 itself- www.rediff.com reported- “The situation became tense as news of the incident spread to other parts of the state prompting the state government to initiate precautionary security measures. Security has been tightened in Godhra and other parts of Gujarat.”
The Link for this report is:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/feb/27train.htm
Rediff.com also reported quoting PTI on Feb 28 evening that-“The army has been asked to stand by and the Rapid Action Force and the Central Industrial Security Force have been deployed in Ahmedabad and other places.”
The link for this report is-
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/feb/28train15.htm
Rediff.com reported on Feb 27 itself- after Godhra that- “Two companies of the Rapid Action Force and one company of the State Reserve Police were deployed at Godhra to guard against further outbreak of violence.”
The link for the report: http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/feb/27train4.htm
On Feb 28- curfew was imposed in Baroda at 8 Am in the morning itself- as reported by rediff.com the same day. The report says-
“Indefinite curfew was imposed in the city from 0800 hours following the stabbing incidents, a senior police official said.
Curfew had been imposed in the six police station areas of the walled city (i.e. Ahmedabad) and RAF and CISF companies have been deployed in sensitive areas, Police Commissioner Deen Dayal Tuteja said.
Indefinite curfew has also been imposed in Lunawada town of Panchmahal district after 0200 hours on Wednesday night following incidents of arson and looting, he said.
Meanwhile, indefinite curfew, imposed in Godhra town after the attack on the train on Wednesday, continued on Thursday without any relaxation.
No untoward incident was reported during the curfew so far, police said.
The situation had remained peaceful and under control in other parts of the state during the night, police said.”
The link is- http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/feb/28train1.htm
On the 2nd day of the riots- Shoot-at-sight orders were extended to Ahmedabad as well. The report of rediff.com on 1st March 2002 was-
“Alarmed by the unabated incidents of violence in the city, the Gujarat government on Friday issued shoot-at-sight orders to the police against those indulging in arson and violence.
The announcement was made by Chief Minister Narendra Modi in Ahmedabad, official sources said. Modi has issued directives to the police to deal ‘strictly with arsonists and if need be shoot-at-sight any person indulging in rioting’, they added.
Meanwhile, the army staged flag marches in the violence-hit areas of Ahmedabad – Daraipur, Shahpur, Shahibaug and Naroda – to instill confidence among the people as unabated violence has claimed 111 lives in the city alone so far.
The army personnel were out in different areas like Daraipur, Shahpur, Shahibaug and Naroda, police said.”
Link: http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/mar/01train4.htm
In chapter 2 we have already seen the reports of The Hindu and The Indian Express to know the steps taken by the Gujarat government to curb the violence. The Telegraph-published from Kolkata also reported on 1st March 2002-
“ (On Feb 28) The Vajpayee government, alarmed that law and order were spiralling out of control, ordered deployment of the army in the state. The army has already begun pre-deployment drills in violence-scarred areas and will be out latest by tomorrow morning. Defence minister George Fernandes is travelling to Gujarat tomorrow…Curfew was clamped in 26 towns… “There is a fire inside us. Our blood is boiling,” Mangalben, a woman from Dariapur, said. “What is the fault of those children who died? There is a volcano of anger.”
Link:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1020301/front_pa.htm#head2
In other words-there was a volcano of anger among the masses- whose blood was boiling after the Muslims brutally roasted 59 kar sewaks including 15 children in Godhra. On the events of 1st March 2002- The Telegraph reported in its issue dated 2nd March-
“A funeral procession cast away its veil of mourning and exploded into a mob of killers, torching houses inside which the pursued were huddled. Official sources said eight people died in the incident, but unofficial estimates put the toll at above 30.
An agency report suggested vengeance for the death of three persons earlier in the day as the motive for the attack at Pandarwada, 70 km from Godhra….
Despite the presence of the army — some 3,500 soldiers have arrived in the state — in Ahmedabad, Surat, Vadodara and Rajkot, the rioting has not stopped.”
See link:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1020302/front_pa.htm#head1
And they say that Narendra Modi gave 3 days to the rioters to kill! They demand that the BJP and Narendra Modi should ‘apologize’ for the Gujarat riots. They should realize and so also the BJP spokespersons who come on TV and miserably fail to point out the truth- that it is not Narendra Modi who should apologize- but the entire media- for lying and lying, exaggerating, defaming Narendra Modi. The media can be tried under Section 153-A (Creating enmity between two groups)- because of its one-sided reporting- and Section 500 of IPC- (Defaming)- for needlessly defaming BJP, Sangh Parivar and Narendra Modi- and also tarnishing the image of India.
This tale of lies and myths is unending. It can go on and on and on. We will, however, need to conclude this chapter here itself. An enterprising writer would do well to compile an encyclopedia of these media lies on the entire Gujarat scenario. He can start with media lies on Godhra, on concocting imaginary ‘provocations’ for Godhra, the lies concocted on the post-Godhra riots-such as the extent of the riots, the number of people killed, the imaginary tales and stories of unnamed victims, the rapes and murders of innocent people, etc etc. And he can conclude with the media’s malicious reporting during the Gujarat Assembly elections of December 2002 when the media was the Congress’ pillar and tried to defeat the BJP. The BJP, which suffers the maximum damage from these lies, has unwisely allowed the media to escape the courts for one-sided, malicious lies.
For full details of the steps taken by the Gujarat Government see link:
http://www.gujaratriots.com/category/02-role-of-the-government-in-controlling-violence/
From the begening I am saying that the media is doing too much propoganda against Modiji and India after the post Godhra riots of 2002.
It is not the Saffron Parivar alone but the Congress workers were equally doing the genocide. Refer a news dated 9 Aug 2003 in Times of India “Cong silent on cadres linked to Guj riots” it described a letter from Jamiat Ulma-i-Hind to 10 Janpath, Sonia Gandhi.
Why every one is silent not to also punish those persons named in this letter published on 9.8.2003 in TOI. Why these Congress persons go scot free?
Modiji should also get these persons arrested, may be also some BJP men in this report.
I am a Hindu belong to SANATAN DHARMA of Hindutya where the Hindu Dharam preacheses brotherhood among the Hindus and other communities and not the hate.
“It is not the Saffron Parivar alone but the Congress workers were equally doing the genocide.”
So you at least agree it was a GENOCIDE? Thanks, congress or BJP OR VHP,, everyone who was involved is a criminal, Mr. Goel thanks for calling these riots a GENOCIDE because it was a GENOCIDE.
And it is good that SANATAN DHARMA preaches love, because it clearly seems like RSS/VHP have nothing to do with national unity and hindu cause, other than mere agenda of gaining power by exploiting emotions of stupid and uneducated Indians, who can easily be provoked to burn trains.
It is a sad future of India.
(I know I said I am not commenting on this site, but this post by Goel was interesting. And whoever said I flee to America, should know that there are millions of Indian who are “fleeing” to US. There must be a reason, if a million flee to US and may be couple hundred come back because they lost their jobs, it doesn’t make any point, it still shows how much Indian want to get out of India.)
Deepak bhai,
Yes, sure it was a genocide but godhra also was a genocide. but tell me one thing if godhra was not happend will this post-godhra genocide would have any chance to occur?
No, i don’t think so. RSS/VHP are there because of you people. you let down your own community in the name of secularism and this led to frustration in the minds of the people. if there is same treatment for every community, there is no chance for existence of these organisations.
Now the investigations of SIT started. Truth will come out.I have no doubt in my mind that the post Godhra riots were a reaction in which the Middle class hindus irrespective of political party they belong were involve. Are the congress men not hindus? Why to blame only Saffron Parivar of Moditaya. Modi being a RSS Parcharak was emotionally more disturbed with the Godhra genocide of Karsawaks returning from Ayudhiya.
This happened in the teritory of Gujarat that is why till date Modi is blammed.
As I wrote earlier in my South Vadodara area there were 21 congress coucilors out of 21. Only one councilor waqs from BJP. Tarsali area got also riots sponsored by the congress workers more than the Sffron Parivar of BJP.
If Mrs Sonia Gandhi is honest she should now say that she OR her POLITICAL ADVISOR Mr. AHMED PATEL MP OF BHARUCH GOT COPY OF THE LETTER DATED 9.8.2003 PUBLISHED IN TOI. Why she and Mr. Ahmed Patel not accepting that they received the letter from Muslim Organisation of repute of Pre-Independence time.
Mr. Ahmed Patel Should reproduced the contents of the letter he received the copy. Public and the world will know that as was the case of 1984 riots of Sikh genocide by all the communities irrespective of political parties, in 1984 congress was in power that is blamed. In 2002 in Gujarat BJP was in power under Modiji that is why the Saffron Parivar is blamed but congress fellows were equally involved.
This only can be cleared from the 10 Janpath or by the Political afdvisor of Mrs. Sonia Gandhi Mr. Ahmed patel only.
DEEPAKJI,
It is not the question how many wants to flee from India. There are Indians those love India too much as their mother land.
Those flee from India to USA or Other countroes are due to employments oppurtunities. Now India have more employment with good pay no one will flee from India their mother land.
We Indians are satisfied in India living in our mother land.
I feel we should close this chapter that Modiji gave three days time to rioters. Truth is coming after the appointment of SIT by the Ho’ble Apex Court of India.
So far no one said that Modiji gave free hand to rioters. Even if it is true why only DEEPAKBHAIJI you are blamming Saffron Parivar of Moditya? In three days free hand to rioters than the Congress men were also got these three days free hand.
We should say that in post Ghodra riots Middle class hindus and tribals were involved irrespective which political party they belonged
Middle Class or Tribal, ALL INSTIGATED BY THE IDEOLOGIES OF SANGH PARIVAR.
There is a reason BJP did worse than last election, there is reason BJP’s religiously divided state Gujarat gave a broken mandate saying no to MODI and this is quite enough for anyone to admit the the country simply threw away the so called “HINDUTVA WAVE” and these saviors of hindu religion to the corner.
And for dear HINDU’S comment, I am not the reason there are VHP like organizations in India, reason is religious thinking, uneducated poor youth, unemployed youth and totally discriminative society.
And GOEL JI, you say India has enough jobs, don’t forget just because india is prospering in IT doesn’t mean that whole county is prospering, not to mention farmers are still committing suicides in that country, what a shame!
And I will only laugh when you “we indians are satisfied in india,” because this an statement full of fallacy because I bet if you ever got chance to move out of India, you will run way with your entire family!
If India has enough jobs, first try to employ those poor people who can’t even get 2 times of food still, then talk about satisfaction!! My friend, the only reason India has more jobs is because average indian is willing to work for $5/day and is happy in it. An prosperous country cannot afford to pay this cheap to its citizens, in india rich politicians can easily set low standards for living of people, that’s why there are thousands of jobs currently in india! Ask the politicians to pay $50,000/year to an programmer and then I will see how many jobs in IT and call center remain in india!!
Oh! I just found something hilarious, the BJP’s official site still shows Advani as the Prime Ministerial Candidate for 2009!! HAHAHAHA, i think the party is still in shock as if they really thought they could win with ideologies of HINDUTVA + HATE + LIES +ACCUSATIONS…SHAME SHAME Please some tell BJP to update their site, its time to make Advani candidate for 2014.
Deepakji
It looks you are too much bias with India. ARE YOU FROM INDIA ORIGIN OR BORN IN USA AND NEVER VISITED INDIA?
India gave lot to foreighn countries our culture.
Today even Indians are most tolerant people with much satisfaction what they got.
I visied twice USA and know what is USA. My three daughrters are in USA on very high posts still they love India and want to come back in India.
I am also against the hard liner hindutya of saffron parivar of Modiji. But the RSS given lot for India freedom. Go to RSS website and see their chart from 1925 to 2010. You will understand better of real Hindutya of old timers RSS folliwers. With present RSS workers I am not also satisfied. So please Deepakji don’t be to much bias with India if there is nothing in India and all under fed and starved.
In USA the intellectuals are from India only. You should agree rather discarding too much India.
Modi though not got USA Visa but still not begging from USA. Indians settled in USA all respect Modiji why you should forget this?
All Indian now become USA citizens still come to India to search matches for their children, WHY? Because India have culture and values.
NO I AM NOT BORN IN USA. I moved to USA when I was 16, so I have seen a lot of India as it is now…it not been long since I permanently settled in USA. First of all because 10% of Indian have values and morals doesn’t mean entire is a cultured country, CULTURED PEOPLE DON’T BURN NATIONAL PROPERTY LIKE TRAINS, BUSES AND SHOPS!! CULTURED PEOPLE DON’T KILL BABY GIRLS BECAUSE THEY ARE THOUGHT OF AS “BHOJ” ON THE FAMILY
Go sing this tune of MERA BHARAT MAHAN to someone who has only seen India in BOOKS, bro I have lived the streets of New DELHI, I know what Indians are…a girl cannot walk alone on streets in modern clothes because SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED AND HUNGRY INDIAN BOYS stare at them as if they have never seen a girl. Innocent bus taker are abused by uneducated third class youth of india…go see this happening in India and then tell me ABOUT THE GREAT CULTURE OF INDIA!!
ALL INDIAN LIVING IN USA RESPECT MODIJI” Are you mentally helpless, people in his own state and country don’t respect him, you think people in USA respect him? There is a reason he was denied VISA TO US IN 2005, if you are not aware of the full story, please do some research, it was NRIS who petitioned the state government to deny him visa on grounds of HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION!!
And for you brag about Indians living in US come back to India to get their daughters and sons married is not because there are no cultured people in US, it is because they are more likely to find a suitable match for their kids in India, because INDIA is full of INDIANS, whereas US has less than 1% population that’s is Indian. I know hundreds of people who have married their kids in US only…stop thinking of INDIA as a country of culture and shame man, because that India is long gone in dust of the past.
THE PRESENT INDIAN IS FILLED WITH IDIOTS LIKE LALU AND TERRORIST LIKE MODI AND ABUSIVE AND IMMORAL YOUTH LIKE RAHUL GANDHI!!!
Deepak bhai,
you are pretty much correct about the present situation in india. the thing is, we do have a great culture but we didn’t practice it.
we discuss lot of great things about the culture but when it comes to act we don’t. at last you can’t blame our culture for the present situation in india.
Abot RSS, i don’t think so that only unemployed, uneducated, poor and religious fanatic people support this organisation. i am not uneducated and even i am not a “Religious Hindu” nor i do believe in temples. But i still support RSS for its ideology.
Deepakbhai,who did Godhra train burned incident?HINDU itself?over 3 lacs peoples were killed at the time of partition of Hindustan,who did it?Hindus itself?Please read a books of the great HINDUSTANI Revolutioner VEER VINAYAK DAMODAR SAVARKAR.His Hindutva is famouse.Now can you blame to veer Savarkar for written that kind books on the Hindutva.
Guys ,
This guy deepak is a crap , a broken crap . when you ask something he will tell something else and he will rejoice by himself with his answer(which no one , atleast i cant think appropiate). He is a total bookish guy will read any communists book and will tell its the only truth . jus skip him guys
Anush
Deepak is a mental person.He should check his head before posting comments on this sites.because only mental person can wrote that kind of foolish comments against his motherland that is birth country.actually his not a secular,he is a ‘SEXULAR’.
there is neither change nor power except by means of Allah.
there is no transformation of strength except through Allah.
there is neither progress nor might except through the Allah.
Yea Vivek I am a mental person, and that RSS slave advani is a genuinely smart person, that’s why he is sitting at his home eating cashew nuts, while Manmohan singh is presiding over India as the PM for second time.
What a shame for a RSS slave to have leaded the BABRI DEMOLITION, leaded the party at the times of GUJARAT, saving MODI from being investigated for his role, all of this political shoe polishing for vain.. Could not even become PM for once, yes he is a very smarty and secular leader…and he will remain that until he is dead, but never be the PM of India, because for that position, people will only chose someone who is true not only on the outside but on the inside.
How does BJP/RSS slaves attack other people??
1. They will simply deny all accusation against their organizations, such as rapes, abusive behavior against minority women, even though when there is abundance of eyewitness proof against them : quite similar to Pakistan, who denies all accusations against them, here we can see a similarity b/w these two, hence indication some sort of linkage between terrorist outfits like LET and RSS.
2. Will simply praise their own era without any facts, for example during 1998 nuclear tests, VAJPAYEE told the nation how this tests were a success, where as the truth in front of people is these tests were failure, from which not even 60% yield was delivered.
3. Will only focus on HINDUTVA as the basis for their debates, o matter what the argument, they will connect it to being a HINDU. If a honest indian muslim will debate with them , they call them a Pakistani, and if a indian HINDU will argue with them they name him a paki muslim hiding in indian identity.
Other than this, most RSS members are sexually starved, sick minded indians, they cannot represent hindu religion, as even if they justify riots as anger of people, they have accepted killing innocent children and women, and our HINDU RELIGION never advocates any fighter (Kshatriya) to attack a woman or a child, no matter what the circumstance, so these so called saviors of hindu culture are liars, because a a true hindu cannot attack women, as for anger cannot make one loose his faith in humanity. These monsters have ashamed humanity by what they have done in GUJARAT, ORRISA and many other parts of India.
YOU SLAVES DON’T REPRESENT THE COUNTRY, YOU SLAVES CANNOT TELL ANYONE TO LEAVE INDIA OR BE A HINDU, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE, IT IS ONLY MATTER OF TIME BEFORE YOUR FASCIST IDEOLOGY LEAVES INDIA FOR GOOD. SIGNS OF THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SEEN, WITH Constantly BAD DEFEATS FOR BJP AT NATIONAL LEVEL, YOUTH PERSISTENTLY AVOIDING TO JOIN THEM…
JAI HIND
i agree that only Modi alon can not do all these, even he didnt do anything dirctly, even Modi is only a Face, Face not working hands and legs and mind and hearts working.
Thus behind Gujarat riots there are heats, minds, hands, legs and they are actul Culprits, they are only the people who missused Name of MODI for their own benefits (so called benefits which may have no use). thus People care for Modi becuase some people made him Fool and used his name to survive in their political run of getting currpted money and business. thus Modi is Innnocent in the way i am explaining here. thus long live Modi until all real Culprits are getting their places. thus if
MOdi is innocent they why some one has created this http://www.gujaratriots.com website? what the reason?
thus May the Lord of Universes do Mercy upon Narendra Modi and let him reach to the Justice with safety.
thus,
there is neither change nor power except by means of Allah.
there is no transformation of strength except through Allah.
there is neither progress nor might except through the Allah.
Thus all praises are for the Lord of universes only.
Dear Deepak,
As a proud hindu kshyatriya, rajput, the best warriors in the world, I disagree with you. Hinduism doesnt teach to kill women and children. AGREED. But when the women and children, are burnt alive mercilessly, believe me, I dont HAVE TO follow the tenets of my religion. I can (and have) slashed women and children, ruthlessly.Try arguing with me, why shouldnt I? Because we dont hit their women and children, they think we are cowards. I am no coward.
then stop killing in name of RAM, if you dun want to follow what he lived for, stop defaiming him for your POITICAL NEEDS. I can see how you are so ready to “ruthless chop” women and children for people who died and are not even related to you.
I cannot understand how 20,000 people can just get up one day, and be so angry over death of 60 people who they dun even know, never seen , Yea I totally understand that.
When killings like this happen, there isonly one motive, POLITICS OF HATE. Thants all, you guys did not kill them for any revenge, but just to serve the orders from your leaders who are using you guys to meet their political ends.
But yes, you are NOT COWARD, you are sub-human, from now start drinking tea with a street dog, because you cannot rise above his level.
What kind of sub-human are you, Deepak? MY community got WIPED OUT from pakistan, bangladesh, kashmir. Why shouldnt I strike back? They were not known to me, agreed. Then why are the muslims all over India, worried about muslims in gujarat, who were not known to them, why are you so worried about gujarati muslims either, not known to you? The so-called leaders are NOT using me for political ends. Nobody tells me what to do. Not even you. Not Narendra modi either. I do it of my own free will. Given half a chance I would take absoute sadistic pleasure to wipe out all kashmiri muslims, and yes rape their women. Why shouldnt I?
To,Hindu terrorist,
I like the word ‘terrorist’ which you have put after the word ‘Hindu’.after reading many comments of Deepakji,I am comming to a conclusion that Hindu people must be start terrorist organisation like Al-quida,LET etc.the name of that terrorist will be Lashkar-e-Hindu,Hindu Mujahidin etc.Because the way so called secularist and other religion is demolishing Hindu people,I think terrorism is the best way to save Hindu religion.Your last comments is the right answer to Deepakji.
Deepakji never talk about Karsevaks who were died into Godhra train burned incident,he is only worried about Muslim peoples who were died into mass reaction of Hindu people.He never worried about Kashmiri Hindu People,Hindu people in Papistan,Bangaladeshi Hindu and so on.In past history,many Hindu Rajput women were raped by Muslim kings in Chitod.Now in present,in some areas Muslim people are offered 1.5 lakhs Rs by Masjid if they raped or convert atleast one Hindu girl.It is not fake story.It is a fact.If you want to know about this,go to Kerala and west Bengal where you find that my above information is right.
The psuedo secularist Deepakji is always justified secularism.But he have nothing to do for secularism.keep prasing congress,keep singing a song of secularism.Ham khun ka badla khun se hi lenge.
Well,Hindu terrorist,i would like to change your name.you are not Hindu terrorist. you are ‘ Hindu’s terror’.
Jai shree Ram! Long live Hinduism and Hindustan! Hell to secularism!
I am worried about innocent people dying, innocents died in godhra and afterwards, But I can never take revenge by KILLING OTHERS. If you can do that, you re doing it on orders of political leaders, I am not sure wht your motivation is, but it revolves between POWER, MONEY AND SEX. You are no more hindu by killing innocnents. A person who differentiates creation of god based on their faith, cannot belong to any faith.
You are a criminal, anti-god and a pthetic soul . Keep up the good work, because all religions are growing together in india, and when cowards like you do these crimes, it brings the nation even closer.
As a result, because of your actions, BJP lost faith in people, lost in 2004, brutally lost in 2009, and will loosee assembly eletion in all 3 staates. BECAUSE NO ONE HAS FAITH IN GOODWILL when criminals like you hide in their blanket.
Vivek, no one can try to pursuade you or even try to help you think otherwise, because you life is a prewritten book on HATE IDEOLOGY.
You are living a life that is not your, but is based on Constitution of RSS, when you say Hindu people, who do you mean actually?? who Hindu people?? there are more hindus who dun follow your ideology than those who do, so I guess we re the prominent hindus, not some sick cowards like you.
Whatever you want to do, whatever your goals, are not made by you, they were sowed into you, since a child, every single day, hate against muslims and christaisn alike. But sad thing, the future for youis very dim, nothing that you want is working.
1. You want to wipe out muslims: They are growing well in India.
2. You want to take india back to 17th century: Indian college people re enjoying western music, enjoying western food, clothes and even lifestyle. Everyone watches hollywood movies, shows and concerts and enjoys.
3. You want to take freedom away from us: Couples ar eopenly falling in love, exploring their oppurtunities, and making independent decisions. Indian youth are interacting to the world more than ever before, you re helpless.
4. You want to build ram tmeple on a disputed site and create tensions: Since the demolition, no one has allowed you to step in that area, and it will be like that til leternity. I do not want the babri to be build again, but nothing else should be built either, because that place has blood of innocent indians on its soil, THANKS TO YOU.
So you see, your hu hu , hi hi only works to certain point, Look out the window. Your time came and gone, no mattter how hard you argue, even you know how India is living today, no one cares about a TEMPLE ISSUE, or HINDU RASHTRA issue, we just want to live and enjoy ourselves.
Hardly we get 70 years to live, people like you waste mor than half of it hating and killing people, but we are a lot ahead of you, we will focus on eating good food, listening to good music and dating some good men and women of our time.
AAPKO AAPKA MANDIR MUBARAK HO, JAB BAN JAYE TO BATA DENA, I WILL ALSO COME PRAY AND WILL HIT THE BELL. OK??
Long Live Democracy.
To,Deepakji,
Don’t hide your name.I am totally agreed with ‘Hindu’s terror’.Revenge is revenge.since 2002,except Baroda riot,there are no single riot in the Gujarat.But in Maharastra,under congress rule,over 350 riots were happened since 8 year.
Khun ka badla khun se hi lenge ham.you are worried about godhra burned incident? Chu chu chu ! Ham ko ye malum hi nahi tha!
Karma karo! Hi Hi Hi!
REVENGE,REVENGE AND REVENGE! Hi Hi Hi!
Jai shree Ram! Hell secularism!
Sisters and brothers of India as being Indian,
why we have to try to discuss all this with Muslim pepole, how can it is possible that you do everything with muslim and if muslim do something agains your activity is Godhara Burning train, but why you COWARD NON REAL HINDUS never talk that why Godhara Burning train happen.
Who dream to Burn the Train of GODHARA, no that dreamer were not MUSLIM and even not REAL HINDU. Check the History and come back.
These kind of policies are from originated from YAHOOD and yahood have no TRRUE religion to follow. Whatever their in their mind is Business and Money. Only so Check the HISTORY again and come back.
KIND REGARDS,
KHAN 1
To,Deepakji,
Valentine day manaoge with full masti? to aap sab girlfriend ke sath rastepe nange hoke ye sab kari ye na! Aap logon ko kya fark padta hain! Ham bhi dekhenge ye sab mazese! Nalayak sale! Apne culture ke bareme kuch nahi malum aur chale valentine day manane!Apne akal ki diwali hame mat dikhao!
Manmohan sing and chidambaram are true educated?Thats why,Hindustan is facing problem like unemployment,bad roads,problem of internal and external security,conversion of Hindu people,curruption etc,thats why our weakest prime minister,and Home minister required NSG commandos for thiere personal Z+ security.Dr.Pravinji Togdiya has already ignored a security offered by central government though he got many threatened by Muslim organisation.Its required guts.Woh congreji hijadon ka kam nahi.
Adya Sarsanghchalak Mohanji Bhagwat will never required to lick your dirty jootis.He is well educated and clever person more than you.
Abe Teesta Setalwad ke chamche,Tumhari Madam itna pura support(NHRC,congress,Muslim league)ho ne ke bavjood hamara kuch nahi ukhad payi to tum kya secular rakhoge HINDUSTAN ko wo bhi US me baithkar! ham dekhenge kaise rahata hain Hindustan secular!
We are not Darpok.atleast you have no right to say Darpok to us.Kaha aapna kala mooh chupake baithe hain aap Gujarat me badmash secularist! If you have some guts then give so called justice to Muslim people by raising voice against Mr.Narendraji Modi in the Gujarat.go,go and do it immediately.
With the hopeful lines of great revolutioner Veer V.D.Savarkarji
” Sampurn Hindu rastra ye Hinduon ka janmasidh adhikar hain.Yeh Hindu hoga,ek din jaroor,yeh Hindu Rastra banane ka karya main anewale pushtiyon ke hath me chhod raha hoon.Agar ye Hindu Rastra nahi hota hain to main sabse bada pagal hounga lekin ye Hindu Rastra hota hain to main sabse bada hoshiar samaza jayega”
Read all the books of V.D.Savarkar then you will realise that the Hinduism of Sangh Parivar is much smoother than Hinduism of Savarkar!
Karma karo!Microwave! Ha ha ha fu fu!
Jai shree Ram!
Kaise kaise matimandh (mentally retarded) logon se paala padta hai? Abe psuedo intellect. You talk of education, westernisation etc? I am a post grad masters degree, westernised to boot. Widely travelled. I WANT my India to be modern liberal secular. Celebrating valentines day, I do too. Spend most of my leisure in discos. My problem with muslims is very simple. They object to my idols (false gods) they also object to my libertine lifestyle. Sharaab is haraam. THATS WHY I hate them and want them wiped out. NO respect for my way of life. Imposing THEIR f***all ideology down my throat. Talking of hindu rashtra, if we wipe out all muslims in India it will be 95% hindu. Add buddhists, jains and sikhs we will be 98% hindu. Even with a 98% hindu population, I still want India to be a liberal secular democracy. I just dont want this ONE trouble making community in my country. Thats all.
and the slave gets aggravated…
hindu terrorist, those people (muslims or christians or anyone else) who impose anything on us, or try to denounce us are not indians…those people are not the ones I cry for…but genuinley there are muslims and christians who love india and like its values. They cannot be treate dlike other criminals.
But not all of them are criminals or hate our religion. Just like not all terrorist are muslims, this ideology of RSS is wrong that all muslims are our enemies.
Not to mention, vivek thinks his organization can stop Valentines day , and other secular things in india?? The fact is these things are increasing in india exponentially everyday!!
I stil lremember year 2000 when i left India, and look at India today!! It has gone so much ahead, and he is rining songs of Gayatri mantara. Nothing wrong with being religious, but way of life is totally independent chouice, just like idea of of Gay and lesbians…IT IS INDIVIDUAL CHOICE.
I said full masti, and his response was nange hoke kariye…you can see how extreme his ideology is about everything. Did i say I will do that, full masti means whatever i want to do, as in drink or sing or kiss someone.
Even you will agree that not all people in CONGRESS ARE BAD, AND NOT ALL PEOPLE IN BJP ARE BAD. But just read his idiotic comments, he so hoplessly belives that CONGRESS IS THE BIGGEST ENEMY OF HINDUISM AND INDIA, but the fact is BJP is also doing same damage to india as congres spoliticians are, and it is not their individual actions, it is the political cultur ein India that is sooo bad.
But according to him BJP is goog good and good, everything that BJOP will do is goood good and good, that is an obvious bias and makes him just another SLAVE TO HATE IDEOLOGY.
Go sing and dace all you can Vivek, Indians will be secular, will enjoy western things and will live together. there are 20 crore + minorities, you think you got a strong enough army to kill them all?? Good luck bro, tere grand children bhi lage rahe na marne maarne ko, tab bhi india HINDU RASHTRA NAHI BANGEA…GAURANTEED!!
and what is this moron Vivek talking about Indian culture…I have seen ramayan shows, mahabharat shows, the women used to dress up so boldly in ancient indian, there tios were sleevless, cut, almost deigner baras, and these were maharanis and daughters of kings, dancers and other women who lived in those eras…
Because of fanatic people like him, now women can hardly even dress up the way they like, because hungry men (both who follow congress and BJP) start starring at them like they have never seen a woman before.
And this all fault of people like Bhagawat and co. trying to undermine sexual freedom, opressing ideas and what not!!
Open your eyes you freak, your time if come and gone, it is our time, the free time!!
To,Deepakji,
For making Akhand Hindu Rastra,we can do whatever as per situation demanded.Agar pure desh vilonce hota hain to bhi hame parvah nahi.You are always talk about Godhra post riots,Muslim people but you are not uttered any single word about Kashmiri Hindu Pandit.They are suffering from lot of diceses.rather than barking against RSS and its leader,you should worries about Kashmiri Pandits because they are still facing many problem.
Are ha! Aap ki microwave ka kya hua?
Jai shree Ram!
I agree with vivek. Kashmir was the crowning glory of Indian secularism. Liberal and westernised to boot. All shop signboards in English, not Urdu or Kashmiri. What happened? All bars closed down, all movie halls, and beauty parlours closed down, all hindus wiped out. My temples desecrated. Why shouldnt I react? The muzzies are secular only because they are in a minority and not in power. If they had the power they would make whole India into islamic country. Wipe them out today when they are in a minority, or tomorrow they wipe you out anyway.
There is no transformation of Strength except the means of Almighty.
So please praise the lord of the Universe only.
why to talk about religion yar..this is all politics and riots are always promoted by political parties.every one is involved.we all know that..bloody vote politics.we should be smart now.these political parties have never done good for us whether hindus or muslims.we must understand there intentions..if we are real patriots ,we should think only of india and not of religion descrimaimination yar…grow up..still we are lagging behind those western countries.we need to build ourself strong..and without unity it can never be done.be a true indian..jai bharat
hi friend
bjp and rss always say the killing of muslim is the reaction of godhra train. if you accept so why you not accept the attak for akshardham and other attak.
Nobody can accept that Islam is liberal and it is a Peace process for whole human being, unless one is studying Islam.
The Proof: Since beginning those who were arguing against Islam they were the people who became real Solders of Islam and that are the Success path of Peace process for whole mankind.
Latest nice example is: A political person of Switzerland, his political success was due to his course of actions against Islam. Now the same Person has become the Solder of Islam.
What is the message here?
There is not only one Person as above but whole history and success of Islam is due to this kind of people. So Go Study the History and come back..
Thus,
This is about the Islam as a whole, which equally applicable to anybody who has accepted Islam.
So, let us stop blaming Narendra Modiji, and let us accept the Islam as it is.
There is no transformation of Strength except the means of Almighty.
So please praise the lord of the Universe only.
@Noor Shaikh
This link will clear the air
http://www.gujaratriots.com/46/difference-between-godhra-and-other-tragic-incidents/
@■Ajinkya on April 6th, 2010 2:52 pm
Please refer the link you provided, then read following in the same (again and again):
“Godhra was done by local Muslims-not by terrorists trained in terrorist training camps” again and again.
and Tell me why Muslims whole over Gujarat has suffered due to above. If you can say this is a justice chosen for whole Muslim community in Gujarat then tell me who is the Judge of all judges ?
thus Praise the Lord of the Universe.
ask for forgiveness and the Lord is so merciful, can forgive all sins.
So, Please praise the Lord of Universe only.
@barakatulla khan,
You are right when you say that Muslims of the rest of the state should not be punished for the work done by Muslims of Godhra. I simply pointed out the difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents.
If God is merciful and forgiving- its very good. One question I have- “WHO CREATED GOD?” and why does God not reveal how He came into existence in any of His revelations- such as Holy Quran or Old Testament?
Mr. Ajinkya ,
I must not believe that you are not in the same world where I am living.
Therefore tell me is there any single incidence or single moment coming in your life which is not under your control?
What ever you plan to do all of that happening as per your wish?
Is there any single moment in your life while you are not fully conscious?
Anything you believed to be produced in factory or cultivated in farm, are possible without a factory or a farm?
Thus, finally ask yourself how it is possible that you are very clear about all of above question and why you are not clear about the existence of the Lord, why you can not believe the Lord is the Creator and rest of all is creation only?
Still if you are confused about the Creator of all creations then tell me what is your Intention to ask me the question itself?
So, you are not able to control your own life then how it is possible that the life in whole Universe is not under control of one creator?
YOU KNOW Mr. Ajinkya you have been forced by unknown Power to condemn the riots of Gujarat. And yes killing of any innocent is killing of whole mankind, regardless of Religion and Nationality
AND IF YOU ARE REALLY A NON-BELIVER THEN LOVE TEH death YOU WILL feel THE truth.
There is no transformation of Strength except the means of Almighty.
So please praise the lord of the Universe only.
well said man!!!!!!! my good wishes to all believers..
@barkatullah khan,
who the hell are you to preach your religion to me? I REFUSE to accept islam and refuse to bow to almighty, what you gonna do? Kill me? Try me moron. If muslims in gujarat suffered please blame muslims from godhra not narendra modi. go and fight them.
dont coma and complain about hindu reaction. My whole community got wiped out from pakistan, bangladesh and now kashmir. I reserve the right to wipe out your community from rest of India. Wanna fight?
aj chhatr pati shivaji maharaj ki jayanti hey , yek chand likh raha hu, indr jami jambu par vadv svamb par ravan sadmb par raghu kul raj hey,pavan bari bah par sambu rathi nah par jo sahasr bah par ram dvij raj hey, dava trum dand par chitamrug zund par bhushan vitund par jase mrug raj hey teg tami ans par canho jami kans par to mlenchh vansh par sher shiv raj hey,