Myth 1: 2,000 Muslims were killed in the Gujarat riots
Posted on May 22, 2008 - Filed Under 12-Concocted Lies and Myths by the media |
Fact: As per figures given by the Union Minister of State for Home Shriprakash Jaiswal, who belongs to the Congress Party, in Parliament on 11 May 2005, 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus were killed in the riots, 2548 people were injured and 223 people were missing. The report placed the number of riot-affected widows at 919 and the number of children orphaned at 606. The UPA government gives these figures, and hence they themselves may be inflated.
See link: http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=46538 or
http://news.indiainfo.com/2005/05/11/1105godhra-rs.html
Even the Indian Muslims’ English newspaper Milli Gazette also reported this.
The editorials of the national English dailies, and the articles published from the freelancers on the newspapers’ editorial pages are nothing but a pack of lies, akin the autobiography of Pakistan President General Pervez Musharraf, “In the Line of Fire”. Newspapers like The Times of India, The Hindustan Times, The Indian Express, etc. continue to publish articles saying, “Win in Assembly elections of December 2002 does not whitewash Narendra Modi’s sins of the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 when 2000 innocent Muslims were butchered” or “The Gujarat pogrom of killing thousands of Muslims did not help the BJP in the long term” etc. etc.
All these numbers again came into the picture when Narendra Modi was denied a US diplomatic visa in March 2005 by the USA and his earlier tourist visa, issued in 1998 was revoked just one day before his scheduled visit to the USA. Why the USA took as many as three years after the Gujarat riots to revoke Modi’s earlier visa is not known.
But these numbers are nothing but a pack of lies. The number of Muslims killed in the post-Godhra riots is inflated and exaggerated to unimaginable levels. Let us see the interview given by the Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi to Aaj Tak’s Prabhu Chawla, excerpts of which were published in the weekly India Today, dated 4 November 2002:
“Q- Your opponents call you ‘Jinnah of the Hindus’.
A- I am hearing this for the first time though I still don’t consider you as an enemy.
Q- You are held responsible for the killing of 1,100 innocent people in the riots.
A- In our previous interview, you said 900 people. Now you are saying 1,100. Are you adding all the people killed in other states like Maharashtra and Bengal to Gujarat’s account?
Q- So what is the correct toll?
A- There would have been no riots in Gujarat if there had been no Godhra.
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Q-Do you accept that you failed to provide security to the people of the state?
A-98% of Gujarat would not have peace if we had failed to fulfill our duties. We managed to control the riots within 72 hours.
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Q-Why don’t you accept that Gujarat is being defamed because of Narendra Modi?
A- If that is true, give the people of Gujarat a chance to pronounce their verdict through elections.”
As we see, the number of people killed in the riots jumped from 900 to 1100 after Narendra Modi’s previous interview, i.e. within 4 months! Now it has jumped from 9,00 to 2,000. May be after 10 years, at this rate it will jump to 10,000! Already it is being said that, “thousands of Muslims were killed in Gujarat” and “3,000 innocent Muslims were butchered in Gujarat”.
What these lies have done to well-meaning people
It is generally believed, even in the Sangh Parivar, that the post-Godhra riots were one-sided. Anil Nair, Organiser correspondent in Mumbai reported in the weekly, dated 20 February 2005 thus:
“On February 10, Pakistan finally gathered the gumption to tell us that it was both-in Ahmedabad over 2,000 Muslims were killed in riots. Such polemics are useless; Pakistan is working on the presumption that the Congress government will find it hard to choose between national honour and secularism, and by all measure it will choose the latter at the cost of the former.”
Smriti Irani, BJP member and TV actress (mind the word actress and not actor), also said that she would sit on a fast until death unless Narendra Modi resigned by 25 December to help the BJP get a secular image once and for all in December 2004.
Most leaders of BJP are also blatantly ignorant of the truth of the Gujarat riots. Whenever Congress leaders or anti-BJP journalists raise the issue of the Gujarat riots on TV, the BJP leaders like Rajiv Pratap Rudy, Nitin Gadkari, Gopinath Munde, Prakash Javdekar, Sheshadri Chari, Shahnawaz Hussain, Harsh Vardhan etc hopelessly fail to give befitting reply. They falter in speech. They merely try to point out that the Gujarati electorate gave a huge mandate to the BJP and to Narendra Modi in the December 2002 Gujarat Assembly polls, and mention the Godhra incident as a cause of the riots. None of them ever points out any instance of Muslim aggression, sufferings of the Hindus in the riots, police firing deaths, or the fact that only 60 places out of 18,600 saw riots. This is because of ignorance and blind belief on media lies.
After every terrorist attack, the national English media rationalizes this deed on grounds of the ‘Gujarat riots’. The Gujarat riots were the result of the Godhra massacre. That the English media justified Godhra (as a response to the Ramjanmabhoomi movement in Ayodhya), did not justify or even rationalize the post-Godhra riots (which were the direct result of Godhra) where Muslims were killed and ignored the killings of the Hindus, and it tried to and tries to de-link post-Godhra and Godhra. And it rationalizes and/ or justifies the (so-called) ‘reaction’ to the post-Godhra riots.
The very fact that some terrorists claim that they “plan to avenge the Gujarat riots” clearly shows the devastating consequences of the media lies. The media lies today about Gujarat riots being a ‘pogrom’ and instigates innocent Muslims to terrorism.
In March 2005, the Pakistan cricket team was on a tour to India. It refused to play a Test match in Ahmedabad on ‘political’ grounds, i.e. for ‘the killings of Muslims’ in that city. All this is clearly the result of stark lies concocted by the biased media, which it itself may have started to believe by now. All these lies and myths need to be thoroughly exposed.
That the UPA government, with Congress President and Italian-born and staunchly anti-BJP Sonia Gandhi as the UPA chief, and Communists as outside supporters, gave the figure of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus killed in the Gujarat riots inside Parliament is something worth pondering about. These figures themselves may well be exaggerated given as they are by a Congressman, who works under Sonia Gandhi.
India Today weekly reported in its issue dated 20 May 2002, when the riots had almost stopped that “Total dead- 972″ (For details, see page no 70).
Out of these 972, India Today included 57 people killed in Godhra. If anyone sees the English newspapers of those days, i.e. between 10 to 21 May 2002, no riots took place in Gujarat in those 10 days at all, and the Army left Gujarat on 21 May. A maximum of 20 more deaths might have happened in Gujarat after that. The death toll in Gujarat riots would thus be 935.
I myself recall reading in Nagpur-based English daily The Hitavada that 936 people were killed in the Gujarat riots after the Army left Ahmedabad on 21 May 2002.
Adding the UPA’s figures of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus, we have a total of 1044 people killed in the Gujarat riots, a 100 more. Hence, the true figures may well be 682 Muslims and 254 Hindus, a total of 936 people killed.
But let us, for argument’s sake, assume that the figures given by the UPA government are correct. Does that give anyone the reason to believe that more than 790 Muslims were killed in Gujarat? Why should the English dailies and the 24-hour news channels lie through the skin of their teeth that 2000 Muslims were killed in Gujarat? A total of 223 people are said to be missing. Out of them, how many are Hindus is also not told. The maximum number of people thus killed in Gujarat, assuming that all the missing are dead would thus amount to 1267. There is no scope for anyone in the world, including the human-rights organisations and the US-based religious freedom groups and the TV channels like NDTV and company to report that one more than 1267 people were killed in the Gujarat riots.
Despite this, Prafull Bidwai, a self-proclaimed secularist wrote in Nagpur-based English daily, The Hitavada’s Sunday magazine, Insight in July 2006, soon after the Mumbai blasts that killed 187 people in the city, that, “VHP, Bajrang Dal and the BJP butchered 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat”. And he was not the only one. NDTV, mouthpiece of a political party, and that too the CPI (M), a Leftist party, reported a thousand times during the Lok Sabha elections of April- May 2004 that, “2000 Muslims were killed in Gujarat”.
2,000 is the number of Muslims who carried out the massacre and gruesome roasting alive of 59 Hindus-including 25 women and 15 children in Godhra. It is not the number of Muslims who were killed in the subsequent riots. There is no justification for violence-and of even a single death-be it in Godhra or after Godhra. But why lie throught the skin of your teeth that 2000 Muslims were killed when only 790 were killed? Who gains by these lies? And it is everybody’s duty to correct the figure. The point is- what should be reported is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
You fools it is not actually about religion…we are talking about people here. The criminals filled in political parties, specially BJP are no saviors of hinduism but only criminals with one goal in mind. To spread hatred and abuse people’s emotion based on that…
YOU so called REAL HINDUS are comparing India to non-democratic countries in GULF REGION, where no other religion is accepted. If you want to compare the values and system do it with US, which is actually a real democracy. You will be put to shame when you compare your religious freedoms to US, where no one is treated badly based on their level in society, Indians are so much filled with hatred for each other, its not about hindus and muslims, MY WHOLE LIFE I WAS IN INDIA I HAVE SEEN POOR PEOPLE ON STREETS BEING ABUSED AND RULED BY RICH PEOPLE…
Is this also fault of muslims?? You assholes don;t even know how to respect a woman, you hindu men walk on streets and stare at women as hungry beats looking for some flesh …have you even seen your sexually starved faces ?? you treat all women like crap, yea yea you can say now women in India are also being educated and given rights, but it IS YOU HINDU PEOPLE ONLY WHO HAVE HIGHEST RATES OF CHILD ABORTION BECAUSE IT IS A GIRL… this is your real hindu culture…
Dude what are you guys talking about hindu culture made of sacrifice. You cannot use mythological teachings of past to cover your dirty system prevalent today in India, CORRUPTION, INCOMPETITIVENESS AND SHAMELESSNESS IS THE TRUE FACE OF INDIA NOW..
Now wait and watch to see how BJP CRIMINALS because of who BABRI came down and so many innocent people lost their lives, go to jail… WAS THE BLOODSHED THAT HAPPENED AFTER 1992 ALSO RESULT OF MUSLIMS?? WHY CAN’T HINDUS MAKE A TEMPLE NEXT TO BABRI?? WHAT WAS SO IMPT TO BRING DOWN A RELIGIOUS PLACE??
I WILL TELL YOU WHY, TO GET HINDU VOTE BANK, YOU MORONS TALK ABOUT MUSLIM VOTE BANK, BUT HINDUS ARE NO BETTER, ACTUALLY IT IS NOT ABOUT HINDU OR MUSLIM, IN INDIA PEOPLE RE SO FREAKING ILLITERATE AND RELIGIOUSLY DEPENDENT THEY WILL DO ANYTHING THESE CHADDI LOOSERS WILL TELL THEM…
Good example is GUJARAT, where after riots modi came back to power with thumping majority, this is called vote bank you fools…
HINDUS ARE VOTE BANK JUST LIKE MUSLIMS OF INDIA ARE, IF CONGRESS TRIES TO GET VOTES FROM MUSLIMS, THE ONLY REASON BJP EVEN EXISTS IS BECAUSE OF ITS VOTE BANK OF HINDU RELIGIOUS FANATICS…
JAN SANG CAME IN EXISTENCE IN 1951, WHICH IS WHAT TODAY’S BJP IS MADE OF, AND SINCE ITS EXISTENCE, IT ONLY GOT 2 CHANCES TO COME IN GOVT, OUT OF WHICH ONLY 1 TERM WAS A FULL TERM, NOW HOW MUCH MORE YOU HAVE TO GET BEFORE YOU KNOW THIS PARTY IS NOTHING BUT A RELIGIOUSLY CREATED ABUSIVE PARTY…THROUGH ALL OF INDIA’S EXISTENCE, THIS PARTY COULD NOT EDUCATED INDIANS ?? LOL…
Hi All,
This is simply ridiculous. I believe that Hindus are more secular than any other religion. It has been proved a billion times that it was Hindus who always gave the sacrifice right from the Mongol to the Pakistan era. I have no other example to say that some other religion gave 1/3 of its land to form a country which is based on values of other religion. I think all the sacrifices are in vain and no matter what they do not satisfy the Muslims. Isn’t it enough to create “Pakistan” to keep you safe and happy at personal cost enough that Muslims now want some more share of the Pie. Congress has done nothing till now for India except it has eaten lots of Nourishment (Similar to the weed congress) of this land. I believe that harmony is sweet word but not at the cost of self destruction. Let us stop discussing about Godhra, Gujarat and concentrate more on personal and countries development. That way we will come out of this religion based politics and live like a man, a human a good soul who cares for other one. And if someone tries to screw this “Screw “em”… I think that is fair enough.
3. If it was a purely administration aided voilence, then 790 would have gone up for Muslims and there would not have been 264 hindus death.
Its purely a people anger towards Godhara incident, and portray of the incident my media.
Why Media against BJP?
The media is against BJP because they are funded by christian charity - CNN IBN, Times Now
Good jurnalism is dying , since all these media are trying to take advantage of the weakness in the soceity.
Rather journalist taking about the positives of the issue they always take the hatred issues to get the most TRP’s.
For deepak - Read history , where ever the muslims are there are problems.
Muslims - have no tolerence towards other religion
Let me give you a scenario:
Try practicing hinduism in a gulf country in public.
Try practising Islam in India .
you may not succeed in former but later scenario your allowed. That is Tolerence.
Gujarat Incidence incidence is the limit of tolerence.(Tolerence implies there is limit to everything; which means Hindus can accept muslims to a level they dont harm us.)
You are mistaken- the second conviction took place on 24 Nov 2003- when BJP was in power in both Gujarat and Centre- in which 15 Hindus were convicted in Gujarat. See link: http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/nov/24godhra.htm
And there have been a total of 95 convictions- including 61 Hindus- out of which 40 Hindus were convicted in Gujarat. Prosecution in Gujarat is the Gujarat Government- and not the Indian National Congress- no matter how much you trty to link Congress with those convictions.
Ravi, this site quoting what is published in these newspapers, but source of the information is bureaucrats in GUJARAT, POLICE of GUJARAT and so on…I don’ really think journalism is your cup of tea..or for that fact, anything is your cup of tea, so why don’t you just not even answer me questions…
And for those who are so proud to tell the world that in GUJARAT GENOCIDE case, killers are being punished, please shut you mouth because it is not the gujarat govt who is going forward in convictions, it sis only happening because Congress in power and of course every party cuts each others legs… this is the only reason now high profile ministers are also being arrested and will be found guilty, GUJARAT CHIEF MINISTER did nothing for justice ok!!
Ravi
Answers to your questions are-
1- Lives lost inside a mother’s womb- if any- may not be counted by the UPA government. Instead of condemning this site for quoting the UPA government- criticize Sonia Gandhi for the figures given by her party’s MoS for Home.
As for your claim that “Obviously many such incidents took place” give one instance with precise details- Balbir Punj also asked for one such incidence- and no one could him a single such case.
2- As for IDENTIFICATION-it is the duty of any administration to give the exact number of killed people-in any case-such as Kargil war. The number of soldiers killed in Kargil is 474. In Gujarat- dead bodies were sent to their families- and all missing people were declared dead 7 years after the riots. So the figures of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus are true- along with 223 missing.
3- As for POLICE bias- this site is quoting NOT POLICE SOURCES- but anti- BJP newspapers like The Hindu, The Times of India, The Indian Express etc. If you dont believe these newspapers- condemn these dailies instead of criticizing this site for quoting these newspapers.
I see LOSERS are still trying to sing the same song of HATRED and STEREOTYPING against minorities and how a HINDU is an idol citizen of India. One question came to my mind, you these people like KEDIA who easily use numbers like 790 and 254 to describe the magnitude of the violence… my questions are:
1. Did you count those lives who were still inside a mothers womb?? (I am not talking about any Kausar bano or anything, but obviously many pregnant women have been burnt in violence, doesn’t matter if any sexual abuse took place)?
2. Does every citizen in India have a official record and a ration card?? Walking in any major metropolitan city of India, you can see poor people who barely have clothes to cover their bodies, what are the chances poor of GUJARAT who dies in violence has any IDENTIFICATION to their soul?? And if not, were those people counted?
3. How can anyone be ready to believe the official numbers given by GUJARAT POLICE in cases of “rounds fired”, “hindus killed in shooting” and “muslims killed in shooting” when this is the same POLICE who’s officers are involved in killing innocent lovers on the order of rich people?? ( I am refering to recent case involving a muslim youth of who thrown in front of a train for loving and marrying a hindu girl)??
WHEN THE WHOLE BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM IS SO BADLY CRIPPLED IN THIS COUNTRY, HOW CAN THESE CRIMINALS CLAIM WHAT IS GIVEN TO PUBLIC IS TRUE??
Oh may be they are used to believing in false and hyped up numbers, Just like BJPs pre-poll survey told them that CONGRESS will merely get 125-140 seats. Please do clearify my questions…
For all those Hindus , pls find this nice article…
http://myexperimentsagainstprejudice.blogspot.com/2008/12/why-am-i-hindu.html
Hi Balla,
You seem to be a spammer for faithfreedom, these fellas hijack the conversation everywhere in different forums.Your explanations of the M*slems is overly simplistic.