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namakar to all my hindu sister an brothers.i m mohan rajput working as a freelance journalist.
i proude to be a hindu and i request you to try to convert the people in hidnu religion.if u want any help that how to convert them please contact me on my mail id.
iwant to know how to convert people to hinduism
namskr mere dost.
hope u r fine and committed fro their raligion.
u need a basic informtion to convert people in to hinu religion.first try to know abt hindu dharma.
i will recommend you to read satayarth praksh of swami dayannd sarwati. u will find the path of moksha and u will be knowing the demerit of other religion.
namaskar.
pranam,
jo log paise ke lalach mein dharam tyag kar rahe hein unke liye kya kare.kese unhe dharam parivartan se roke…….
why can’t you just be well-wishers of humanity?
I am staunch Hindu and believe that we should treat Muslims, always as enemeis within. No freindship or ralationship should be established with the. We should also stop building places like Dubai, no matter what the monetary befit is.
Please read the below two articles. Thats the truth of Godhra and Gujarat Riots.
http://nsm.org.in/2008/08/02/the-truth-of-godhra/
http://nsm.org.in/2008/07/14/deadly-plan/
Mr Pratik Sinha, this report does not answer 2 simple questions-
1-If it was an accident, and not a murder done by Muslims-then why did the karsewaks not run away from the train when it caught fire? Obviously-because 2,000 Muslims surrounded the train from all sides and prevented them from doing so.
2- There was heavy stone-pelting done on the train and stones were recovered from the site. Who did that?
3- Muslims forcibly entered the train by cutting some parts with swords-which is well-documented.
4-A senior Railway security official has said that he heard cries of ‘Islam Khatre mein hein-kafro ko kaat dalo’ (Islam is in danger, butcher the infidels) from the loudspeaker of a mosque close to where the coach was burnt.
This nonsense report given is nowhere near the truth of the Gujarat riots or Godhra. The bitter truth that Muslims can commit murder cannot be accepted by some people.
Dear Pratik Sinha
Don’t write under a pseudo name.
I went through the links mentioned above in detail and its shows its true character as a muslim organisation.
Don’t just sit in the US and rant against the Hindus. Come down to India, and check how the muslims are terrozing Hindus.
IF you want links, I can provide you in thousands, of muslims commiting terror acts all over the world.
Dear Pratik Sinha
If you want links, here is the first one, just check what the muslims are doing to the Hindus due to pseudos like you.
http://www.bengalgenocide.com/
@Rajesh Nayak
1-If it was an accident, and not a murder done by Muslims-then why did the karsewaks not run away from the train when it caught fire?
[PRATIK] Good Question – According to the confessions of several Karsevaks themselves (under oath) in Nanavati Commission, they fled from the backdoor and there was no Mob there.
[PRATIK] Next question, Why didn’t all of them escape then? Thats because there wasn’t enough time because of the flash fire.
Please see Slide 67 onwards on following presentation:
http://nsm.org.in/2008/08/02/the-truth-of-godhra/
2- There was heavy stone-pelting done on the train and stones were recovered from the site. Who did that?
[PRATIK] Muslims did that, and they were obviously retaliating to the ill treatment meted out to them by the Karsevaks.
3- Muslims forcibly entered the train by cutting some parts with swords-which is well-documented.
[PRATIK] Where is it documented? Is there a single submission like that there under oath in a judicial court with evidence?
4-A senior Railway security official has said that he heard cries of ‘Islam Khatre mein hein-kafro ko kaat dalo’ (Islam is in danger, butcher the infidels) from the loudspeaker of a mosque close to where the coach was burnt.
[PRATIK] Again, where’s the documentation? where did this office confess this under oath?
This nonsense report given is nowhere near the truth of the Gujarat riots or Godhra. The bitter truth that Muslims can commit murder cannot be accepted by some people.
[PRATIK] Please read the report from a scientific point of view and try to understand whats written.
@Common Man
The question here is what happened in Godhra. This is a blog talking about Gujarat Riots and hence my submission to this blog. Hence please keep the discussion relevant.
I do not believe in religion. Am neither Hindu, nor Muslim.
Mr Pratik Sinha,
India Today weekly dated 22nd July 2002 -gives in detail the names of the witnesses-who testified these statements. The Railway Security officers have given signed statements to the police to these effects-as reported by India Today.
The Muslims cut the coach with swords-again mentioned by weekly India Today dated 22 July 2002.
Your defence that-many passengers did indeed run away-made me laugh. What prevented the remaining 59-who were burnt to death-from running away?
Gayatri Panchal-a 16 year old survivor-and many others who survived the attack-have clearly testified that the attack was planned, the mob was ready and waiting -and unprovoked-and Muslims brutually murdered the unarmed 59 karsewaks-including 14 children and 26 women.
You are DEFENDING Muslims’ stone pelting-and blaming the innocent dead 59 karsewaks for ‘ill-treatment’ to them. What evidence do you have to prove that there was any ill-treatment meted out to Muslims in the first place? And in any-case, does mere ill-treatment mean stone pelting on them is justified?
Mr Pratik Sinha,
Your report on post-Godhra is absolute rubbish. It does not mention the fact that the Gujarat police saved 2,500 Muslims in Sanjeli, on 1st March 2002,and thousands in Bodeli, and Viramgam. It does not bother to report that in the first 3 days-98 people were shot dead by the police. The police shot dead 5 Hindus outside Ehsan Jafri’s house on Feb 28. On Feb 28, the police shot dead 10 Hindus in Ahmedabad alone by evening-as reported by The Hindu the next day.
The post-Godhra report ignored the killings of HUNDREDS of HINDUS. This article brings out the truth of the Gujarat riots.
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/11/gujarat-ka-sach-truth-about-gujarat.html
Some more info.
http://nsm.org.in/2008/08/30/fabricating-systematic-lies-fsl-report/
Ha ha ha…Mr Sinha, this report is rubbish. What are you saying? The stone-pelting was done by Muslims-and the train was burnt with PETROL which had been brought a day before. Read India Today dated 22 July 2002 to know the full details. Many of the accused of the Godhra massacre-like Haji Bilal, Mohammad Kalota etc have confessed to commiting the horrific massacre. Godhra is well-known for Muslim fundamentalism right since 1927.
Read this article-of India Today weekly-dated 22 July 2002. http://www.hvk.org/specialrepo/guild/15.html
@Pratik Sinha
Before I could open this site again and see the questions you have asked me, 2 persons Mr. Rajesh Nayak and the Nationalist, had already replied to your queries. So please be aware that the new Indians and specially the Hindus wear their faith and nationalism on their sleeves.
And about your query to keep the ‘discussion relevant’, I am just informing you about what’s going on in Bengal, so be ready to face the music if any misgivings continue to happen as shown in the link below
http://islamicterrorism.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/murshidabad-muslims-behead-husband-for-being-of-different-religion/
And if you say that
“I do not believe in religion. Am neither Hindu, nor Muslim.”
better keep out of it, rather than patronising a psuedo-secular organisation like nsm.
When you are coming to India, be sure to write down a mail, I shall arrange for your stay here and be there to welcome you, afterall we are known for our hospitality, and have welcomed Parsis, Sindhis, Kasmiri Pandits, and many more
Regards
Please find Jan Sangharsh Manch’s comments on the Nanavati Commission and the Report prepared by Jan Sangharsh Manch throwing light on what happened in Godhra.
http://nsm.org.in/2008/09/30/godhra-incident-revisited/
I was keen to know what this web site has, but it took no time for me to infer that this website is defnitely promoted by one of the Hindutva brigade. The long history of the sang parivar in spreading rumours and mis leading people needs no introduction.
No matter how well you engineer/craft evidence the truth is Modi has blood on his hands.
Though the muslims (fringe elements)who burnt the train are no lesser evils, Modi had no right in presiding over the massacre of innocent muslims. I am a hindu and it pains me to see that such heinous crime were committed by people calling themselves ‘Hindus’. These so called protectors of Hinduism are in fact doing the contrary, making this country more insecure and misrepresenting what this country stands for. Rather than leaving behind the pains of partition and progressing ahead united, these people are deepening the divide in the country, all in the name of protecting Hindus.
Atlast looks like the judicila system in this country has some spine left. The arrest of the Gujrath education minister is a welcome move. Hope truth prevails eventually.
Really- Mr Doesitmatter?
Maybe this site is BIASED- maybe this site is organised by fanatics- does it make any difference? No matter who is saying- you must be able to counter them on facts and arguments- and not irrational criticism.
Karsewaks are not innocent…Really? 25 women and 15 children including toddlers killed-and old people above 65 brutally roasted in Godhra- body turning to coal- are not “Innocent”?
Modi presided over the massacre of Muslims? Really? Can you counter the arguments factually raised here- on reports of English dailies who reported that Modi handled the riots extremely efficiently?
I request to all secularist people in this site please explain me the exact meaning of HINDU religion?the fact is that no one (secular people)can explain exact meaning of Hindu religion.because for them secularism means only oppose to Hindus.never forget history of the country.Gujrat riots was reaction of godhra train burned incident.and i would like to appreciate to VHP and Bajrang Dal for the quick reaction and saved all hindu Gujrati people and gujrat. MUSLIM people is like buture for HINDU and Hindustan.
I think the defending either ghodhra incident-(if it was accedent(?)then ill tretment by local muslims who were there at the sight of accedent.) or riots after that is totally irrational.one cannot whash blood vth blood.
The peoples who are supporting either of it should understsnd that in progress of five thousand years of civilisation human beings has learn some basic principles which make him different from other animals.Not only diffrent but superiore in all of them.
The peoples who are supporting this riots or ghodhra incidents are really trying to reverse this principles.In the whole history of civilisation not a single culture or civilisation is remembred due to violance but many civilisations are remembred due to love,affection,nonviolance,there inclusiveness, there respect to other persons. The civilisation who treat theire peoples inequally can never survive.our own civilisation is one of the best example of it.why Ashoka or Akabara is called great.Not any other king.
Peoples who are claiming ghodhra as an accedent there arguments are unsaleble bcz
1) The accedent sight…….
2) Nobody can instantly plan to sale accident as consperacy as in this case the instant news was abt attack.
3)Some accused have them self claimed(not officially)
4)ill treatment by the muslims there on the sight to the victims(no a single victim or who were alived has said that locals have helped them)
5)varios peoples who are connecte whith ghodhra(railwayys,police,locals) whith whome i have personally talked are corrobrating it…..
6)whole the media(local as well national,print as well as elecctronics) reports after incedent b4 riots i.e 27th evenining
28th morning as attack not accident!!!!!!!!!
There are many other evidences which convince me(i m not claming for others) that it was not merely an accedent.
Now the quetion is if ut was attack(?????) 1)whether it was justified by illtretment of karsevaks to muslims at ghodhra station(another populer theory)
2) whether riots where justified after attack
quetion 1 is self explainery nobody vll justify attack.
And if it was attack then riots were justified?????????????
I think in this regards we should firt see rilegeons on the name of which all the possible worse thing had done.No religeon in the world says that if somebody is doing wrong u give punishment to other innocent people.u outrage the modesty of their womens loot the shops
arsenal the houses of innocent people and what not…………..
About the hindu muslim controvrrsy i prefer to take ghandhiji’s view
one should read ‘HINDSWARAJ’ very small but very logical book of ghandhji
And the wider question is about treatment to other persons i means person frm other cast,race,creed,birth-place,religion,sex………
this communal riots make us think abuot the our attitue……..
our sreotype thinking if some people have done something wrong nomatter however grave that did is you cannot punish whole society 4 that……………………………………
By riots what u r teaching to ur upcoming generations…………..
By violance u cannot solve the single problem u can take number of example for that…………….PAKISTAN is one of them
lot more can be said in this regard…………………
Dear Friend,
The height of Secularism is prctised by the most educated State of Bharath,ie, Kerala.
There are 141 Assembly Segments there. Not even one Hindu has WON from any of the Christian or Muslim dom inated Dts.
What a BEAUTIFUL respect for SECULARISM?
Let people understand if they want to survive.
Hariharakrishnan.
good information thank you
I am a proud gujarati, who gets ashamed when reminded of what happened in 2002.
This website represents the “state of denial” or “deliberative propaganda” of many in gujarat (the citizens, the ministers and the police)
Guys, there is absolutely no difference between the pakistanis, who are in a continuous “state of denial” of their own terrorist activities and you.
Have some shame, don’t deny what murderers did. Do a little service to humanity by bringing the actual “real truth”
If you still have some balls, left allow this comment to be posted
Dear Tapan Shah,
Putting words in the mouth-is all that the opponents of this site can do. This site doesnt deny what happened- nor is it proud of what happened. It simply brings out the truth- that even after Godhra- Muslims were equally on the offensive.
If there is anything that you find wrong- pinpoint it- and I will ask this website to remove it.
There is a huge difference between Pakistanis and this site- Pakistanis are born and brought up with HATRED OF INDIA- they are fanatics- with the single aim of annihilation of Hinduism.
Getting emotional- putting words in the mouth- making baseless charges- is all that the opponents of this site can do. They cannot logically counter a single point based on proofs- raised by this site.
And I am sure this site will allow your comment. Take the trouble of seeing the comments- this site is the most liberal in allowing comments- it has allowed foul-mouthed people to post comments. You are so biased against this site that you cannot even the liberal traditions that this site has of allowing opponents comments.
Regards-
Ajinkya
Well i don’t know what to say except for few things such as these-I am married to a muslim girl, name Ruksar Shaikh. I have got two kids,Maham and Rohit.Being a father since 16 yrs, I have never ever been partial to either my son rohit or my daughter maham.Neither i have felt any difference in my two children.whenever maham is in problem rohit helps her @ whenever he is in trouble she helps him.whenever they both fight with each other, ruksar and I never like it.In my family, both namaz and gayatri mantra can be heard.Being a human if I dont like my children fighting how can the almighty God like it? A hindu is not a hindu if he kills anyone, a muslim isn’t a muslim if he kills anyone..we always forget the fact that while god created us, we created religion and so defamed Him…WE SHOULD FOLLOW GOD INSTEAD OF RELIGION AND GOD SPEAKS OF LOVE, BROTHERHOOD AND COMPASSION..IF ONE IS AGAINST THESE TEACHINGS, HE IS NO HUMAN AND HE WON’T GET A PLACE IN GOD’S HEART EVEN IF HE PERFORMS NAMAZ 5 TIMES A DAY OR PERFORM GAYTRI MANTRA’S JAAP 10 TIMES A DAY….HE WHO DID GUJRAT MASSACRE WAS NIETHER A MUSLIM NOR A HINDU,HE WAS JUST A DEVIL’S WORKER…BE A HUMAN TO FOLLOW GOD…
If you fear The One GOd, If your propagation about the incident is not true? definitly we will see on the day of judgement what is the result? No body can escape from the One God justice.
do read this story on inhuman Rights in India
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/89840/States/Inhuman+rights.html
I am a proud gujarati, who gets ashamed when reminded of what happened in 2002.
This website represents the “state of denial” or “deliberative propaganda” of many in gujarat (the citizens, the ministers and the police)
Guys, there is absolutely no difference between the pakistanis, who are in a continuous “state of denial” of their own terrorist activities and you.
Have some shame, don’t deny what murderers did. Do a little service to humanity by bringing the actual “real truth”
@raju Odedra
Then why dont you pin-point this sites mistakes and accept the challenge?
Pin point where the information given is wrong- prove it wrong. All people like you and Tapan can do is make baseless allegations…
Now that truth of the ulterior motive has come out in public that all the well wisher of Muslims who got killed in riot and did not care what happened to any of the Hindu who were burnt alive were thursty of Modi’s blood.
These social workers , particularly Teesta who was the main manipulator of the entire history and defaming Gujarati and Gujarat relentlessly in the world must be put in the jail for ever.All the witnesses were paid and coached. She has been the biggest liar and manipulator in India. Who has cost so much to Gujarat in various way.
It is a shame that all the minority commisions in India are full os liars and full of prejudice.Get out of the India ans see the world, All the minorities would be begging for their well being.
Minorities in India are supported by more than 50 countries out side of India. Both the Christians and Islamic majorities countries are pouring their money in India.
this is a religious face of muslims and the work of team is fantastic
Great web site! Probably Teesta has some psychological disorder that can only explain her behavior. I am against any remarks on personal appearances but in this case I can’t help but comment Teesta looks evil in every sense.. Tapan Shah and/or raju Odedra – what is your real name? Why are you hiding behind veil, what are you afraid of?
godhra is only creation by vhp,bajrangdal and hindu fundamentalists to make modi as a leader for generations to fundamentalists people in gujrat
modi make godhra and blame to muslims for godhra and then he make all state red by muslims bled , when prophet mohmmed(sas) told to poeple i am a prophet from the allh side, and said . there is no god but except Allah .Allah is only one god and mohammed is rasool (prophet)from allah , who accept this words they will become mulim
who know the concept of god they agree, who dosn’t know the concept of god they not agree , who don’t know themself whaat they are so how they know who is the god for universal(god is for universal .not for only india ,pakisthan , srilanka),islam is a universal religion.
when the mulims accept the kalima tayyaiba and agree allh is only one god. they becomes mulims , and who not accept allah as a god
this poeple make troubles and make riots to the mulim people from 1400
years ago
so gujrat is not new for musims ,from the 1400 years around the world
Non muslim people tease to muslim people,
i make clear to all hindu fundamentalist you kill us more and more and we are ready to die in the name of allh (one god), more and more (for only true path)
but allah given option to his worshippers make self defens from the poeple from the devil,
in india there is a secularism but only to say .india is a democratic country only to say
Mr. Arif,
There is limit for everything, including stupidity and blind faith! You still repeat the stupid lie that the godhra was created by pro-Hindu groups!!! Can you give at least one sensible reason – I repeat – one – simply one – not more – jist one reason why you think so? What is the logic behind this allegation? It appears like you are yet another person who can never admit that Muslims “also” perform crimes
i really like your comment respected rahul gupta we are interrible need of ppl like you in my country where my hindu brother is killing a muslim and then a muslim explodes a bomb so if hindus kill 100 then a one muslim brother kills 1000 hindus but at last all these ppl are my brothers
I request all the non muslim to read the quran. You will know islam is the religion of peace.
If a muslim dares, he should ask under RTI to all states, not gujarat, how riots in each case were started during last 60 years. I challenge at least, I repeat at least 90 % cases will be those in which riots started because of minority attacking majority. I dont remember a singal incidence of attack om Tajia in Ahmedabad but every year Rath yatra was attacked during secular Governmet rule!!!!!!!! I can take all anti Gujarat media persons and so called secularists to thousands of villages of Gujarat where same BJO/VHP/BAJRANG DAL AND Narendra Modi rule etc. are there but minorities have never been attacked by majority just because minority does not attack majority. If any muslim can explain me reason for riots not happening there, I offer to become servant of that muslim free of cost for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now this is whY I am proud to be a GUJJU. To all my HINDU brothers and sisters out there, UNITE no matter what caste, colour you are. We are all HINDUS at the end of the day.
You see all these muzzies supporting one another. Well why cant we do the same?
Lets wipe this disease they call “Islam” off the face OF THE PLANET!!
@raju odedra your not a true gujju
here comes a gujju from UK…welcome to your slave brothers.
u all muslims always talk about ur allah, if any religion didn’t accept the other that can’t be the religion that would be an organization, since god didn’t tell who to pray so that could varry from one to one if u don’t see u lover u can’t love him/her that is the basic need. u all want to increase ur organization not religion if u really want some spirituality in life take a budhist tour, but that have to be not inspired by the outsiders. and any body don’t say that i should read quran because i alrady did it.
Corruption, HATRED, and ABUSE OF POWER is in blood of every single beaurocrat, politician and security official of GUJARAT.
This is evident by one after another cases of fake encounters coming to light from GUJARAT.
The worst police department, most disgusted society among all indians, southern indians re best, then northies have some values, maharashtris are loosing it, and these GUJJUS are just low life insects.
eVERY SINGLE THING THAT COMES TO LIGHT, THEY GIVE IT COMMUNAL COLOR. they say, shah killed a terrorist so he is being arrested by comngress, but afzal guru is not being hanged.
The point here, is it the duty of MOH of a state to contact polcie officials and get a terrosit kidnapped and killed? It is not his job to overlook such activities, and then asking for evidence material, names??
This is what shows, he got him killed not for the nation, but to hide his own extortion business, becvauise sorabuddin was becoming pain for him.
The Hindu don’t know what the geeta said what the ved said I want to say to all my hindu brothers that you should first read your scriputers. then come to muslim for making alligation on them. and if you don’t want to read your scriputers. you r lazy like me then simply watch the zakir naik dvd similirites between hindusm and islim.
@Shahnawaaz
Keep your claptrap islamic tabligi techniques to yourself. We exactly know what our scriptures say and what not-so-holy Koran says about non-muslims.
Keep you AL-Taqiyya for non-muslims of the west, you people fail to realize you have been victims of rape, loot, plunder and conversions by islamic Invaders, and now you neo-converts swear allegiance to the death cult of islam, its better for world peace that war mongering muslims should convert to their ancestral religions wherever they are or if the lamp of islamic hatred/bloodthirst still remains fluctuation atleast denounce islam and become a atheist. Have some shame, you profess an ideology of your tormentors even if you are an Arab!
As per reading Koran, I have read all 114 so chapters and referred your hadiths to understand this wretched terror manual. To my horror it only advocates gruesome blood-lust, rape and plunder towards non-muslims, don’t you have any shame or you just an indoctrinated madrasa educated islamic brute who advicesc people to read Koran (expecting they will convert), rather everyone will realize the demonic nature of islam and its Pagan god allah with its lecherous fake prophet.
As per your advice of watching Zakir naik it makes me laugh, that bigot has been exposed time and again that when in from of Hindu crowd he faked and twists quotes to fake similarities to convert mentally weak people, eg. His Biggest Blunder to call muhammad a “MALEECH”, he insisted that Maleech is a beef eater and vedas has predicted maleech muhammad, to his oxymoronic utterances even an illiterate Hindu knows a Maleech is a criminal, thug, rapist, a barbarian et al and not beef eater by any instance. He is a perfect example of a muslims propagating Al-taqiya and Kitman, in-front of Kashmiri crowd he sings a different song of jihad in Mumbai a different song, this guy is so hopeless in his mission that islamic Scholars of India had issued a fatwa against him, now beat that.
Is my religion greater than yours?
Is my violence gruesome then yours?
Is my human higher than yours?
Is my life better than yours?
Is meaning of ‘I’ deeper than ‘You’?
Is my peace calmer than your?
Is ‘I’ not ‘You’? Are you not me? If that is, then why ‘I’ looks down on ‘You’ while you find another ‘I’ in you?
Think about it.
know DIFFERENCE between Hindu Religion and Hindutva/Sangh Parivaar. If you don’t, keep visiting TCN http://www.twocircles.net/
@aqib moron,
I read koran, original translation by abdullah yusuf ali, the entire koran is a terrorist training manual which teaches nothing but hatred for the infidels (non-believers). You dont just hate hindus but EVERYBODY. Tell me something, why you hate jews so much? Why dont I hate the jews or other minorities but only hate muslims? THINK moron think. It is your attitude problem. Change your attitude , give respect to other religions as much as your own.
So is the UN wrong as well?
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/docs/co/CEDAW-C-IND-CO–SP1.pdf
No Muslim has the right to say that Islam is the religion of peace and Islam promotes unity and blah, blah blah till they can silence a certain person called Ali Sina.(By silence I mean refute his arguments successfully, not kill him as most muslims would take it).
Ashish,
Our hindu religion is full of killing and wars also:
Have you forgotten the wars of MAHABHARATA?/ or killings and wards of RAMAYANA?? Since our history, we have been fighting each other, be at PATLIPUTRA, KURUKSHETRA or elsewhere!!
Hindu kings have been killing hindu kings, and in modern India too, we have killed each other, by support of britishers!!
Haha, stop blaming all violence on muslim people dude, look inside our own religion also.
Deepak,
Regards
in the whole world, muslims are the only people who have troubles with the people of almost of all of the other faiths…..they have problems with christians, hindus, jews….
read the history of any religion and you will find violence in each of them…be it islam, hinduism, christianity, sikhism and all…i can give you references of the battles in the history of islam as well(battle of karbala, battle of the nobles etc.)
my fellow brother ashish has not mentioned anything regarding the history of islam in his post….or at least i did not find any word in his post which points at the history of islam….can you? then why did you jump on the history of hinduism?
if the history of each religion is bloodstained, why discuss it? stop dragging the past…concentrate on present and future….and looking at the current situation, muslims (though not all) are definitely trouble makers for the world…
you cite recent activities of hindus that have caused problems for the world and i cite recent activites of muslims that have caused problems for the world and let us see who wins….
thanks
criminals like taufeeq khan pathan(Congress member)and his son who were active participants in these riots need to be brought to justice,they deserve capital punishment.Guys checkout Godhra-the true story by Nicole Elfi definitely a good read and an eye opener.I am kind of tired of just listening and watching only one sided story.
Hey you all bloody unbelievers,shame on you all. Dont u have any fear of the almighty,dont u undrstand what islam truly is? If u dont then why are u blaming it. Jus luk at ur lives bloody idiots….what do u do to please ur god,what do u do to attain salvation and why are u simply living in dis world if uve got nuthing but a Horrible heart dat jus knows to blame muslims. Shame on u and shame on ur thoughts and shame on d way u follow ur own religion…
Why the hell is dis moron,whos written dis buk publishing it. My advice to you is to Stop telling lies and stop defending whats wrong,stop defending ur religion.all the myths written in dis so called buk are obviously not myths. It is the truth and dat loser narendra modi,the mastermind behind theese riots,is d actual culprit wid d ppl who supported him.
All u ppl, in both msgs of mine,i did nt say anything wierd abt ur religion,nor did i blame ur community as the troublesome community as u all did coz Allah has commanded us muslims nt to do so. May Allah guide us all.Allahuakbar.
@ Hindu Terrorist-You should first understand the true meaning of Islam and should read quran then only you would come to know that islam only promotes peace and allows to attack anyone if they are doing some danger to you or any one > islam never promotes the killing of one person by 1000 Impotent animals(humans).We give respect to every religion and will always follow the path of peace but how u expect us anyone to do so when someone is attacking his family , we are not impotent like you(iam not talking abt any religion or group but only you )
@lovers of islam-Please dont say any negative thing towards any religion or their way of worship as they have their own traditions like us and we cannot decide whom god considered as right. I consider you as a decent person not like this hindu terrorist
@khan @lover of islam
I know what islam is. Islam is exactly what lover of islam is cursing against unbelievers. Why dont you respect other peoples religions? You insult humiliate other peoples way of life, and fight a jihad against them and expect us NOT to retaliate?
The entire hindu minority wiped out from kashmir. Temples desecrated. Kashmir me rehna hoga to allahu akbar kehna hoga. Tell me are kashmiri muslims not muslims? Why shouldnt I hate tyhem and fight against them?
@hindu terrorist – first of all u should change your username as terrorist from any community is not acceptable to a civilized society. Now coming to the point i will clarify u personally i have mostly non muslims friends out of which 98% are hindus and i have regularly very frank and healthy discussion on all issues with them.I will tell u that i have studied in AMU and u all know that aligarh is very sensitive. Whenever there is curfew during riots all my hindu friends used to come to attend classes in muslim dominated univ without any feeling of insecurity as they knw they have friend like us.Wht has been done to kashmiri pundits is not fair but i will say that for kasmiris it was regionalism that matters most to them not religion.some of the cunning politicians have given it a communal colour to gain power in other states.Particularly i have found that kashmiris wheather hindu or muslim RE NOT RELIABLE AND THEY CAN DUMP U ANYTIME.
WHT HAAPN IN GUJRAT BEFORE OR AFTER GODHRA TRAGEDY IS NOT AACCEPTABLE TO US.I DONT CARE WHEATHER U OR ANYONE IS WITH ME,WE WILL TRY OUR BEST THAT NO INNOCENT LIFE IS LOST DUE TO THESE BASTARDS INFRONT OF US
@ hindu terrorist, listen first of all, i dont hav any intrest in conversating wid u. Ur name itself defines us character, “hindu terrorist”.U think muslims are bad, cruel etc.etc.its upto you,according to u whatever u feel. I cant and i dont want to force my thoughts upon urs. I did not blame nor did i curse u or ur religion, Infact u urself is d one whos cursing ur religion by naming urself as HINDU TERRORIST. I wil not post my comment again after this. Its my prayer to Almighty Allah to grant me patience and to guide people like you. Ameen.
First go and make kashmir a secular country, and re-settle hindus in the valley. Fight against the likes of syed ali shah geelani, who is openly talking about two nation theory. If he can talk about that in kashmir, I too want two nation theory in rest of India.
If god forbid kashmir secedes from India, I will do to muslim minority in my state exactlky what happened to hindu minority in kashmir.
what happend in gujarat is disgusting u people r sick! biggest democracy mor like biggest hipocracy!
@lover of islam..
dont teach us about our religion.follow ur islam i dnt have ny prblm vth that,m not upto blaming muslims,whoever does wrog shuld b blamed n punished for it
Hi friends,
Its not your our fault. its d fault of those people who at d time of partition unable to separate hindu and muslims in india & pakistan. when pakistan came into existance why did muslims were left in india because if it was done properly then there were no godhra and other riots could happen.and also the area of pakistan was sufficient as per muslim population of india. if both religion don’t wanna stay together then all muslims should ask to go to kashmir and india should make kashmir a separate nation for indian muslims. i think this is best idea.there is no sense to fight for kashmir and terrorist.just waste of money and people.
dont fight wid each other and find a way to get peace.
1)kyo 90% muslim bahul area me hi ( india or any other country) danga fasad hote hai?
2)kya ye khan pan ka dos h ? jab ghar me murge-bakre—- katenge to daya ki bhawana kaha se aaigi- sayad es liya fasad hote h ?
ek hindu bahul area me mushlim bina dar k rah leta h, jabki hindu bhai me jita h ?
my dear ashok islam or muslim is not a terrorist, for telling us a terrorist one has to verify terroresiom.islam is the religion of muslims.
My dear brothers & sisters don’t argue with each other like this. It is the hardest veracity that not only in our country but whole world is biggest foe of Islam in fact peopke like OSAMA & GROUPS LIKE LASHKAR E TAIBA who call themselves as muslims(actually they’re foes) but actually they are those paganists who at the time of our prophet Mohd.accepted Islam but actually they were foes of Islam & they are still dominant. They’re spreading terrorism in all the parts of world. SO next time don’t listen to them who’re against Islam & call us terrorists. ISLAM IS THE BEST RELIGION OF THE WORLD BUT ALSO THE MOST UNFORTUNATE RELIGION.
Who do you think you are asking muslims to go kashmir and questioning our loyalty to the country? Killing is evil, there is no justification for it.
As for Hindu terrorist, have the balls to give your name. I assume you are not very educated, and might not get what i’m saying…so i’ll rephrase it into plain english – say your name, dont be a coward. And try to understand the Kashmir problem (u’ll have to read up for that) before putting the blame on the muslim community in general.
If my comment is going to be “moderated”, then I hope the moderators have a sense of equanamity to remove the other ‘offensive’ posts as well.
Agr tmhare Ma.Baap,Bhai,Bhen, ko tmhare aakhon ke samne jab koi unne marega tab tmhe ehsaas hoga ki dard kise kehte hai.aur shayad tab tm bhi apno ke dard ka insaaf mangoge pr the bhi dard ke ilawa kch nei milaga mere hindu bhai
Ye India hum sub logo ka hai chahe wo hindu,muslim,sikh,isae ho kyuki hum sub insaan hai aur insaan ka haak to wahe hota hai jaha wo paida hota hai.
Only 1 question to those people who have the mind of rss.
?Godhra kaand hua hi kyon?”
@N H Khan Godhra hatyakand kyu? Because of QURAN. Two well known translators-the earlier by Marmaduke Pickthal (P), an Englishman serving in the court of the Nizam and who had converted to Islam, and the modern version by Dawood (D).
God is the enemy of the unbelievers. 2.98 D
But the infields who die unbelievers shall incur the curse of God. 2.161 D
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter….2.191 P
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme. But if they desist (i.e. give up), fight none except the evil-doers. 2.193 D
God will not forvive idolatry. He will forgive whom he will all other sins. He that serves other gods besides God has strayed far indeed. 4.116 D (In other words, Gandhi will burn in Hell forever because he was a polytheist, but Osama bin Laden may be forgiven because he was a monotheist. Polytheism is a worse sin than having sex with neighbor’s wife, according to Islam! )
You will find that the most implacable of men in their enmity to the faithful are the jews and the pagans….5.82 D
Tell the unbelivers that if they mend their ways [i.e. embrace Islam] their past shall be forviven; but if they persist in sin [i.e. idol worship], let them reflect upon the faith of their forefathers. 8.38 D
And make war on them [ubelievers] until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme…8.39 D
Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers… 9.4 D
….slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush sleverywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful. 9.5 D
God and his Apostle repose no trust in idolaters…9.7 D
Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folks who are believers. 9.14 P
Vain shall be their works, and in the fire they shall abide for ever. 9.17D
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: and evil fare. 9.73 D
Do the unbelievers think that that they can make My servants partrons besides me? We have prepared Hell for the unbelievers to dwell in. Say : ‘Shall we tell you who will lose most through their labours? Those whose endeavours in this world are misguided and who yet think that what they do is right; who disbelieve the revelations of their Lord and deny that they will ever meet Him.’ Vain are the works of these. On the day of Resourrection Whe shall not honour them. Hell is their reward because they had no faith, and because they scoffed at My apostles and My revelation. 18.102-106 D
You and your idols shall be the fuel of Hell; therin you shall all go down. Where they true gods, your idols would not go there : but there they shall abide for ever. They shall groan with anguish and be bereft of hearing. 21.98-100 D
When you meet the unbelievers in the beattlefield strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, blind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens. 47.4 D
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. 66.9 D
l The unbelievers in among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. 98.6 D
Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo Allah is ever Mighty, Wise. 4.56 (P)
Allah promiseth the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers the fire of hell for their abode. It will suffive them. Allah curseth them, and theirs is lasting torment. 9.68 (P)
…..As for those who disbelieve, theirs will be a boiling drink and painful doom because they disbelieved. 10.5 (P)
…..those who gave no heed to Our revelations, shall have the Fires as their home in requital for their deeds. 10.8 & 9 (D)
…But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them: boiling fluids will be poured down on their heads. 22.19 (P)
The righteous shall return to a blessed retreat: the gardens of Eden, whose gates shall open wide to receive them. Reclining there with bashful virgins for companions, they will call for abundant food and drink. All this shall be yours on the Day of Reckoning; Our gifts can have no end. But doleful shall be the return of the transgressors. They shall burn in Hell, a dismal resting place. There let them taste their drink : scalding water, festering blood, and other putrid things. We shall say to their leaders : ‘This band shall be thrown in headlong with you. No Welcome shall await them; they shall be prompty cast into the Fire.’ 38.51-59 D
The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the sinner’s food. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in the belly. A voice will cry: ‘Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell. The pour out scalding water over his head, saying: ‘Taste this, illustrious and honourable man! This is the punishment which you have doubted.’ 44-45-50 D
As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amidst gardens and fountains, arrayed in rich silks and fine brocade. Yes, and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houries. Secure against all ills, they shall call for every kind of fruit; and, having died once, they shall die no more, 44.51-55 D
They shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads not take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be dark eyed houris [virgins], chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon [reward?] for their deeds. Then they shall hear no idle talk, no sinful speech, but only the greeting, ‘Peace! Peace!’. Those on the right hand-happy shall be those on the right hand! They shall recline on couches raised on high in the shade of thornless sidrs and clusters of talh [plantain?]; amidst gushing waters and abundant fruits, unforbidden, never-ending. We created the houries and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand. 56. 15-38 (D)
l The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. But of all creatures those that embrace the Faith and do good works are the noblest. 98.6-7 (D)
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion regins supreme, 2.193 D
Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not. 2.216 P
You shall not wed pagan women, unless they embrace the Faith. A believing slave-girls is better than an idolatress….2.221 D
Let belivers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does this has nothing to hope from God-except in self-defence. God admonishes you to fear Him : for to God you shall all return. 3.28 D
You are the noblest nation that has ever been raised up for the mankind. You enjoin justice and forbid evil. 3.110 D
Do not befriend them until they mend their homes for the cause of God. If they desert you, seize them and put them to death wherever you find them. Look for neither friends not helpers among them. 4.89 D
Tell the unbelievers that if they mend their ways (i.e. convert to Islam) their past shall be forgiven. 8.39 D
If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them. God does not love the treacherous. 8.58 D
….Allah is free from obligations to the idolaters and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9.3 P
O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers not your brethren for friends if they prefer disbelief to belief, such are wrong-doers. 9.23 P
You shall not pray for any of their (unbelievers) dead, not shall you attend their burial. For they denied God and His apostle and remained sinners to the last. 9.84 D
It is not for the Prophet, and those who believe to pray for the forgiveness of idolaters even though they may be near of kin (to them) after in hath become clear that they are people of hell-fire. 9.113 P
Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous. 9.123 D
Do not yield to the unbelievers, but fight them with this, most strenuously. 25.52 D
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. 48.29 P
Believers! Shall I point out to you a profitable course that will save you: enmity and hate shall reign between us until you believe in God only. 60.4 D
l Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. 66.9 D
Godhra was NOT THE FIRST nor was it the last, as a matter of fact, even after Feb 2002 Muslims again attacked Hindus in Godhra in Sept 2003. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2003-09-05/india/27208741_1_tear-gas-shells-stone-pelting-railway-station For knowing the history of attacks on UNBELIEVERS, IDOLATORS POLYTHEISTS which are the anti-thesis of Islam, see this http://www.islaminindia.org/category/10-holocaust-and-massacres-of-hindus-in-medieval-india
It is obvious that web owner is from RSS which has single point of program to HATE muslims.
It seems that this site is owned by Narendra Modi to justify the world’s worst genocide
@hindustani We generally never respond to such comments ourselves but this time we are. Firstly- let us tell you that this site has absolutely no connection at all with BJP or Narendra Modi- they have never contacted us or praised our work or anything or tried to help us. That is one major reason why they are very very far behind in public relations and keep getting thrashed. One they have neither the desire nor the capacity to feel like bringing out the truth of Godhra and post-Godhra.
Secondly you must justify your line that this was the ‘world’s largest genocide’. In our opionion, this wasn’t even a genocide, not to talk of being the world’s largest one. If you have proofs, bring your proofs and debate with us http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
Thirdly nowhere is a single killing being justified. These riots, though just plain riots and not genocide, have been condemned severely by us. Fourthly, if you think what we have done is incorrect then PIN POINT factual errors or wrong information or wrong conclusions drawn by us. We are open for correction as we have said many times. Point out our mistakes and we will correct them. But refute our arguments and say exactly what wrong we have written. This is the tragedy with out opponents. We give them every chance to refute our arguments but they do not refute us despite being given a chance. Our opponents never give us any space in their papers, or websites to put forward our arguments. Though we give our opponents every chance, our opponents simply accuse us of “JUSTIFYING THE KILLINGS by arguing that only 790 and not 2000 were killed” something which we have never done. 790 killings also are condemned along with 254 more.. Since you cannot refute us, you put words in our mouth and wongly accuse us of justifying the violence. And you only make a fool of yourself while doing so, because neutral observers can see the level of arguments. Regards, Australian Admin
And by the way all of who run this site are young guys. When we made the site we were 19 and 22. Now we are 23 and 26 and the third guy is also in his late twenties. Just for setting the facts straight.
Thank god you guys have become some kind of active.
Now we can slap the pseudo-seculars with your websites.
@Admins
I don’t know about the BJP. But RSS did promoted your website on FB few months back. Many nationalists are also posting ref from your website. Your hard work is slowly getting paid now.
Cheers!
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& By Hazrat Maulana Abdul Karim Parikh:- published by Farid Book Depot, 422-Mayamahal, Urdu Mkt, Jama Masjid, Delhi-110006.
These are both authoritative and authentic translations of the Quran acclaimed universally in the South Asian Muslim community.
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Narendra modi ke jay
Every one talks of Gujarat riots but nobody is bothered about what was happened in Godhra. This is the true colour of so called secular media who creates a hue & cry when something relates to a particular community.
In a civilised society violence cannot be supported at all but one should understand the underlying facts before making any conclusion. Media should stop manufacturing of evidence against Modi and should also focus on people like Teesta Seetalvad who has been reprimanded by supreme court for her dubious role in the riots trial.
I DONT KNOW WHAT TRUTH YOU SEEK FOR,I VE NEVER BEEN TO GUJRAT, NEVER DO I WISH FOR IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, I JUST HATE IT. AS AN INDIAN & HUMAN I FEEL PAIN TO EVEN THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ? HOW EVERY TIME POLITICIANS CAN USE US LIKE NOTHING ? AND HOW WE BECOME SO INHUMAN TO EACH OTHER ? I WANT TO ASK THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE RIOTS, IMAGINE YOURSELF IN THEIR PLACE, DEFENSELESS, JUST WATCHING YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS BUTCHERED, YOUR MOTHER & SISTER GANG RAPED IN OPEN AND THEN MERCILESSLY KILLED I FEEL LIKE VOMITING.
ABOUT THE TRUTH: WHO WILL COME UP WITH THE TRUTH? WHEN IT ALL HAPPENED IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. YOU STILL NEED THE TRUTH?
THOSE WHO RAPE THE WOMEN THEY CALLED THEM SISTERS & MOTHERS? THOSE WHO KILLED MEN CALLED THEM UNCLE & BROTHERS. THIS IS THE TRUTH THAT PEOPLE BETRAYED AGAINST OTHERS BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAVE SUPERIORITY OVER THE OR THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE FROM THEM.
WHOEVER DOES IT IS NOT A HUMAN.
I FEEL ASHAMED TO REFER GUJRAT & MAHARASHTRA AS A PART OF INDIA. YOU GUYS COULD BE ANYONE BUT YOU ARE NOT INDIAN.
As a common and unbiased man I want the media to tell the complete story rather than showing one particular community as culprit. One of our friend has said that he don’t want to visit Gujarat or Maharastra because of their tainted history then I would like to suggest him to please read the Indian history and then you will find that the whole nation is not worth to visit as per you.
Heart of our so called moderate or secular brothers stops beating when they remember Gujarat riots but why the same doesn’t happen when there is killing of Hindus in Kerala and Kashmir or when innocent Sikhs are killed in Delhi. I will tell you the reason. The reason is that those who were killed in Kerala/Kashmir or Delhi were hindus or sikhs.
We had witnessed the worst history of India due to appeasement policy a]prior to independence and still it is going the same way. In a country where hindus are having population of about 82%, they are deprived of their basic rights and someone else is given their share of slice.
Lastly I would like to say that nobody wants violence and in particular I can vouch for the Hindu society that it is the most peace loving society. But when you are chased and your very existence & honour is in danger then it is not expected from you to remain silent.
I think ..Hindustani is correct….this site is nothing but just a waste of paper they are trying to wipe out their cowardly sins like murder of helpless, gangrape and killing of innocent childs and women.
R they humans ?
If that is the case then PIN POINT what wrong we have written. If you can disprove even 5 % of the content on this site, we will say you have a point. Firstly, we have done no crime like murder etc. And since you cannot refute a single argument put by us, you are abusing us and caling us ‘rapists’, ‘murderers’ etc! What a logic!
Have you not seen the Tehelka videos ?
see what you have done cannot be cleaned by this web site.
Wah! trueindian ! Does it not occur to you that people in Tehelka videos could be indulging in BOASTFUL LIES? How do you assume that everything they said in 2007- 5 years after the riots was TRUE?
utterly enthusiastic endeavors to deter our nation from decimation and to pacify it. because what once Nehru ji had presented the developmental model strieving towards nation building erasing the contours of religion, language, caste or other markers which are the major obstacles towards integration; your such paces are definatley optimistic amid such unrest.
Dear Australian,
I believe Australians hate indians….are u one of them…
you not write about godhara
Due to some error, even for some people in India the FLAG is showing as AUSTRALIA. Hence those who write and get the AUSTRALIAN FLAG please clarify if you are in Australia or in India.
Regards, Admin (Australia)