Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Myth 8: The Gujarat government was involved in the riots

Posted on May 22, 2008 - Filed Under 12-Concocted Lies and Myths by the media | 94 Comments

 Fact: The full details of the role of the government in controlling violence can be seen by opening the link.

Gujarat government of the BJP, headed by Narendra Modi was blind to the mushrooming of madrasas in the state. Not only that, the previous government headed by Keshubhai Patel too was equally blind to the same. From India Today we know that it was because of fear of harming the BJP’s newly discovered ‘secular’ image that the party did nothing to control the madrasas. It reported in its issue of 18th March 2002: “The general perception is that this was the venting of a latent anti-Muslim sentiment fostered by the unchecked activities of radical Islamic schools in the state. Being debated just as hotly is the question of why the authorities failed to check the blood-letting. Was it because the BJP feared its new-found secular image would suffer if it came down heavily on the fundamentalists? Or was it plain administrative inefficiency?”

   So, the BJP did not want to risk losing its ‘secular’ image. Maybe even if there was no such fear, the government would have been neutral and efficient in dealing with riots. But with the NDA allies at stake, ‘secular’ image at stake, and the powerful electronic media which was hostile, BJP Government of Gujarat was definitely determined to prevent riots.

The Gujarat government had to face the most difficult situation in trying to control the post-Godhra riots. That’s because Gujarat is an extremely communally sensitive state and often even minor things like kite flying and cricket matches are enough to cause riots.

To understand this issue fully we have already seen the horrific massacre in Godhra carried out on February 27. Gujarat has along history of communal violence-dating from 1714 AD and in the recent past saw horrible riots in the pre-Independence period of the 1940s and then again riots after Independence. The Times of India in its issue dated 13 April 2002 carried a report saying- “Trivial reasons sparked earlier riots” and begins with the sentence-

If it took a shocking massacre like Godhra to trigger off massive communal riots in the state in the 21st century, history shows that trivial incidents caused most riots in the 20th century…”

Now the situation was far worse in February 2002- after the gruesome killings in Godhra. But the Godhra killings were not the only cause. At that time, in 2002, there were war clouds between India and Pakistan following the attack on Parliament. There was great anger in Gujarat over terrorism and anti-national activity and over the growth of madarsas. Added to that was the Godhra incident and the rubbing of salts into people’s wounds after Godhra by the media and politicians.

The Telegraph, published from Kolkata, also reported on 1st March 2002: “(On Feb 28)  “There is a fire inside us. Our blood is boiling,” Mangalben, a woman from Dariapur, said. “What is the fault of those children who died? There is a volcano of anger.””

In other words-there was a volcano of anger among the masses, whose blood was boiling after the Muslims brutally roasted 59 kar sewaks including 15 children in Godhra.

Steps taken on February 27 (Wednesday)

On 27th February 2002 occurred the Godhra carnage at around 8 AM.

In brief, the steps taken on 27 February (Wednesday) were:

1)  The Gujarat Chief Minister, Shri Narendra Modi, rushed from Ahmedabad to Godhra and gave shoot-at-sight orders and imposed curfew at 9:45 am as reported by the English dailies at that time.

Link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2256789.cms

2) The entire police force of 70,000 was deployed in Gujarat as reported by The Hindustan Times the next day as well as The Telegraph (UK).

3)  All companies of Rapid Action Force in the state were deployed in Ahmedabad, Godhra and other sensitive areas by the state government as reported by The Indian Express and Mid-Day on 28 Feb.Congress loyalist weekly Outlook also reported this online on 27 Feb.

http://www.outlookindia.com/printarticle.aspx?214725 (Paragraph 8 of this report).

4) The Central Government rushed CRPF personnel to Gujarat, as reported by The Indian Express and Mid-Day both the next day. The Gujarat Government had requested the Centre to send 10 companies of CRPF personnel as reported by The Times of India.

5) The state government imposed curfew in Godhra at 9:45 am- within 2 hours of the Godhra carnage and in other sensitive areas.

6) 827 preventive arrests were made. Narendra Modi said this in an interview to India Today dated 18 March 2002. India Today of 18 March 2002 admitted preventive arrests without specifying the number. Even the SIT appointed by known anti-Modi judges of the SC like Aftab Alam and Arijit Pasayat admitted 827 preventive arrests.

7)  The Prime Minister, Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpayee and the Gujarat Government urged Hindus not to retaliate and maintain peace.

Narendra Modi talked to TV channels in Godhra on 27 Feb evening and urged people to maintain peace and not retaliate. NARENDRA MODI HIMSELF MADE AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN PEACE IN AN APPEAL BROADCAST ON NATIONAL TV (DOORDARSHAN) ON 28 FEBRUARY AFTERNOON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIRMR8zW0iI

8)  The RSS and VHP also appealed to Hindus to maintain peace and not retaliate. The RSS appeal was reported by The Telegraph, The Hindu along with weekly Organiser in its issue of 10 March 2002 covering events till 27 Feb (See detailed RSS statement later in Myth 14 and Chapter 2). The VHPs appeals were reported by The Times of India. Gujarat VHP leaders urged ‘Every Hindu to stay indoors the next day i.e. 28 Feb’ while VHP Senior Vice-President Acharya Giriraj Kishore said ‘Hindus should maintain calm and keep patience’.

9) CISF (Central Industrial Security Force) units were also deployed as reported by PTI.

10) The Centre sounded a nationwide alert in the evening as reported by The Indian Express the next day i.e. 28 Feb.

The Daily Breeze, a US newspaper, reported on 28 February:

Fearing the attack (Godhra train roasting) would ignite sectarian riots, Indian officials immediately stepped up security across this vast, religiously divided nation. The prime minister urged Hindus not to retaliate.”

One link: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1774&dat=20020228&id=Z4UeAAAAIBAJ&sjid=w38EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6789,2011702

Even Xinhua news agency also reported this online on 27 February 2002- that Vajpayee appeals for peace.

These were the steps taken by the Gujarat Government on February 27 itself to quell the violence- or prevent the violence. But on February 28, large –scale riots happened. That was due to the extreme anger of the masses over Godhra, the reaction from the media and politicians on it, and great anger over terrorism and anti-national activity.

On February 28 (Thursday)

Now-the government faced genuine difficulties in controlling the anger of the masses in view of the limited police force. India Today dated 18 March 2002 reported:

Ahmedabad has a police force of 6,000, including 1,500 armed personnel. In addition, the entire state has just four companies (530 jawans) of the Rapid Action Force (RAF) of which only one company could be spared for Ahmedabad. Considering that the mobs that simultaneously surfaced at nearly half a dozen places (on 28 Feb) numbered from 2,000 to 10,000, the forces proved woefully inadequate. At one point on February 28 there were at least 25,000 people targeting the Muslim localities in Ahmedabad alone...

Last Thursday (i.e. Feb 28), the Ahmedabad police received at least 3,500 calls for help from fear-stricken residents, mostly Muslims, against the normal average of 200. The fire brigade which has the capacity to handle 100 fire calls received 400 calls on February 28. Says Ahmedabad Police Commissioner P.C. Pande: “In my 32-year career I have never seen something like this. It was an upsurge, unstoppable and unprecedented. A stage came when it became physically impossible for the police to tackle mobs running into thousands.

The Hindu also reported the next day that mob fury reached its crescendo on 28 February 2002. The Times of India reported on 2nd March 2002- “Neither the Army nor the shoot-at-sight orders given to the Gujarat police could control the mob frenzy in Ahmedabad on Friday (1st March 2002) as the city witnessed a total collapse of the law and order machinery for the second straight day taking a heavy toll of human lives…”

And this was on 1st March- when the violence was much less as compared to 28 February. If even the Army and shoot-at-sight orders couldn’t control violence when it was much less, what must have been the situation on 28 February- when the Army was not present during the day and the violence was far more?

But the state government dealt with the situation firmly, harshly and effectively.

In brief, the steps taken on 28 February were:

1) The riots began in Ahmedabad at 11 AM. India Today dated 18 March 2002 reported that the Chief Minister Narendra Modi informally contacted the Central Government to send Army at 12 noon – i.e. within 1 hour in an article titled ‘Chronology of a Crisis’. Curfew was imposed by 12:20 at noon at all places and at some places right since morning, even before the riots began from the reports of The Times of India of 28 Feb.

2) As per the report of The Hindu the next day- Narendra Modi “frantically” called the Army units to Gujarat on 28 February.

3) Narendra Modi requested the Union Defence Minister George Fernandes to come to Gujarat as reported by The Indian Express & Times of India the next day as well as India Today.

4) Curfew was imposed in 26 towns and cities in Gujarat as reported by all English dailies the next day and weeklies Outlook and India Today both in their issues dated 11 March covering events till 28 February.

5)  There were around 250 people in the housing complex of Ehsan Jafri and the mob killed 69, with the police saving about 200 Muslims despite being overwhelmingly outnumbered by the mob, which was 10,000 strong and the crowd going mad by Jafri’s firing. Police shot dead 5 Hindus outside his house as reported by India Today dated 18 March 2002 and Times of India online of 28 February. The Times’ report at that time said 6 were injured of whom at least 3 were critical and 5 died ultimately.

6)  The police fired at least 1,000 rounds (Exact number 1496) in the state including at least 600 in Ahmedabad. These are the official statistics.

7)The police shot dead 10 Hindus in Ahmedabad and injured 16. These are official records and can also be seen from the report of The Hindu the next day where it said:

At least 30 others were killed in police firing, stabbing and other incidents in different parts of the city while the casualty in other cities and towns in the State was put at over 50…Till evening, police fired 46 rounds in Ahmedabad, in which at least 10 persons were believed to have been killed.” 

In fact, the BBC reported online on 28 February when the death toll reported by it was a mere 40 for the entire state of Gujarat i.e. when violence was going on-The army has been deployed there (Ahmedabad) to counter Hindu youthsThey included six people who were shot dead by police in Ahmedabad as they tried to restore calm. (Final figure was 10)”

URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1845996.stm

At least 2 were shot dead outside Ahmedabad in Nadiad and Godhra as reported by The Telegraph (Kolkata) the next day.

8) Gujarat Government requested Army deployment within 1 hour. At 4 PM- a press conference was held- in which this decision was publicly announced. All procedures needed for this were done very quickly- Cabinet meeting of Central Government was held at 6:45 PM, it approved Army deployment and Army units reached Ahmedabad after midnight from India Today‘s article Chronology of a Crisis as well as The Indian Express’ report online of 28 Feb.

9)  The Army units reached Ahmedabad so quickly that newspapers like The Hindu, The Indian Express had time to report their arrival on 28 February 2002 (Thursday) itself and publish it on 1st March 2002 (Friday)!

10)  Defence Minister George Fernandes reached Ahmedabad so quickly that newspapers like The Indian Express reported his arrival the next day!

11) Police escorted 400 Muslims to safe areas and gave them accomodation in Naroda Patiya after dispersing the mob in Naroda Patiya as reported by The Times of India. Total of 95 people were killed- at least 900 Muslims were saved, since The Times of India reports that 1,000 Muslims lived in the attacked area in Naroda Patiya.

12) The Gujarat Government requested neighbouring states to send additional police force. All these states were ruled by the Congress. Madhya Pradesh, Punjab, Rajasthan did not send. Only Maharashtra sent a mere 260 personnel.

13)700 people were arrested by the police in the state, including around 80 in Godhra on the very first day of the violence when situation was out of control as reported by The Tribune the next day. The official statistics show that 4297 tear gas shells were also burst, i.e. nearly 4300 tear gas shells burst in the whole state.

Nowhere was it alleged that the police deliberately turned a blind eye to the rioting. No mention of police being involved in the violence or giving a free hand to the rioters. No mention of any delay in calling the Army. These charges of “Police turning a blind eye, allowing killings for 3 days, not calling Army until 3 days had passed…etc” were made after the riots. If these charges were true- the newspapers would have screamed and gone downtown on the very next day. Nothing like this happened. And of course- no charge that the riots were being ‘sponsored’ by the Gujarat Government!

On March 1 (Friday)

The Hindu reported on 2nd March 2002-“ (On 1st March)The Army began flag marches in the worst-affected areas of Ahmedabad, Baroda, Rajkot and Godhra cities and the `shoot at sight’ order was extended to all 34 curfew-bound cities and towns in Gujarat”.

On this day- the violence was much less as compared to 28 February (Thursday). And also the Muslims started a backlash on this day, according to The Hindu dated 2nd March 2002 which reported “But unlike Thursday (Feb 28) when one community was entirely at the receiving end, the minority backlash (On Friday, 1 March) caused further worsening of the situation.”

The steps taken were:

1) On morning of 1st March, George Fernandes bravely took to streets to check violence in Ahmedabad, at a great risk to personal life. He was pummeled with stones. Later he left for Vadodara as reported by The Times of India which praised him, but not Modi who called him in the first place.

2) 24 Hindus were shot dead by police and 40 injured-these are official records. The Indian Express reported on 2nd March-“The police, its credibility lowest than ever, tried to salvage its reputation intervening in some clashes by opening fire. Twenty were killed in police firing across the state, 12 in Ahmedabad.”

There are two things to be noted from this very vital statement. First- the police did their best to control the violence and could not be accused by anyone, even The Indian Express of negligence from this day onward- the second day of the riots i.e. 1st March 2002. And second, there were “clashes” going on between Hindus and Muslims- not one sided massacres of Muslims.

The Indian Express reported on 2nd  March, 2002: “(On 1st  March) Tension escalated in the walled city areas just before the Friday prayers. There were violent clashes between mobs in Jamalpur, Bapunagar and Rakhial.” Clearly, Muslims were on the offensive. And The Times of India also reported the same day: “There were signs of retaliation in areas like Juhapura, Kalupur, Dariapur and Shahpur….”  This clears all possible doubts.

The slight difference in the number of people killed in police firing as per official records and this report is because many injured were alive when The Indian Express wrote this, and died later, so the number of killed in police firing increased. And also, The Indian Express could have deliberately kept the number of people killed lower than the true figure due to its horrible anti-Narendra Modi and anti-BJP bias.

3) The Army staged flag marches in Ahmedabad, Vadodara, Surat and Rajkot’s worst affected areas as reported by The Hindu the next day.

The website www.indianembassy.org reports:

The next brigade of the Army was also deployed in Rajkot and Vadodara on 1 March 2002 itself. Three columns allotted to Godhra reached in Godhra, Lunawada and Halol on the early morning of 2 March 2002.

Thereafter the Army has been shifted in Surat and Bhavnagar as and when the situation warranted such a shift.”

URL: http://www.indianembassy.org/new/gujarat_02/index.htm

4) Shoot-at-sight orders were extended to all 34 curfew-bound cities and towns in the state.

5) 2500 (Two thousand five hundred) Muslims were saved in Sanjeli, a town in North Gujarat from a crowd of 8000 armed tribals by the police as reported by India Today dated 22 April 2002.

Official records show that people were also saved at other places- date not known to this writer. There are many other instances as well. Some of them are:

a) 5000 people from the Noorani Mosque area were saved by Ahmedabad Police

b) 240 people were saved at Sardarpura of Mehsana district and shifted to safer places

c) 450 were saved in Pore and Nardipur villages of Gandhinagar district and shifted to safer places

d) 400 were saved in a Madrasa at Bhavnagar

e) 1,500 were saved at Fatehpura village of Vadodara district

f) 3,000 people were saved and shifted from Kwan village of Vadodara district

On March 2 (Saturday)

2nd March 2002 was Saturday. On this day also Muslims were aggressive. Ahmedabad was almost completely peaceful on this day, with major violence occurring in other parts of Gujarat. The police brought the situation under control there and fired on pitched battles between Hindus and Muslims. The Tribune reported on 3rd March 2002 that:

“Ahmedabad, the worst hit by the communal flare-up in the wake of Godhra train killings, was virtually back to normal…”

That is, the Gujarat Government managed to control riots in the state in 3 days after Godhra, and in only 2 days in a communally ultra-sensitive place like Ahmedabad! Reports of The Hindu and The Telegraph of 3rd March 2002 also prove that Ahmedabad was virtually back to normal on 2nd March 2002 itself.

Thus, in brief, the steps taken on 2nd March 2002 were:

1) The police fired more than 1031 rounds and burst 1614 tear gas shells.More than this, because this was the figure till the evening after which more were fired.

2) As per the report of The Hindu- at least 47 people were shot dead by the police in Gujarat- 19 in Ahmedabad, 8 in Godhra, 6 in Vadodara, 5 in Anand, 3 each in Mehsana and Gandhinagar, 2 in Kaira and 1 in Bhavnagar.

As per The Indian Express the next day, 77 people were killed in either police or Army firing.

3) Curfew was imposed in 40 places in Gujarat as per The Hindu.

4) Border Security Force units were dispatched to Surat as reported by The Hindu.

5) 2000 Muslims (Two thousand) were saved in Dahod by the Police.

The efforts of Narendra Modi to control the violence can be clearly seen from India Today weekly dated 18 March 2002 in an article titled “Chronology of a Crisis”.

FEB 27, 2002

8.03 AM: Incident at Godhra claims lives of 57 kar sevaks

8.30 AM: Modi is informed of the carnage. (This could be 9 AM).

4.30PM: Gujarat Assembly adjourned and Modi visits Godhra where he holds a meeting, giving shoot-at-sight orders to the police.

10.30PM:CM holds meeting with senior government officials at Gandhinagar; orderscurfew in sensitive places and pre-emptive arrests.

FEB 28, 2002

8.00 AM: Special control room set up in CM’s house to monitor the situation during VHP bandh.

12.00 PM:Modi informally contacts Centre for calling in army. Cabinet Secretary T.R. Prasad tells Defence Secretary Y. Narain that army is to be mobilised.

12.30PM: Vice-Chief of Army Staff Lt-General N.C. Vij tells Narain that only twocolumns are available as the rest are deployed on the border.

12.35 PM: Prasad directs Narain to advise Chief of Army Staff Gen Padmanabhan to have troops ready due to the rapidly deteriorating situation in Ahmedabad.

12.45PM: Narain tells Vij to arrange immediate movement of troops to Gujarat.

4.00PM:Modi requests army deployment following consultations with Advani.

6.45PM: Cabinet Committee on Security meets under the prime minister’s chairmanship;approves the immediate movement of troops to Ahmedabad and other parts of Gujarat. Vajpayee deputes Fernandes to supervise the deployment of troops.

7.00PM:The Gujarat Government’s formal request for army deployment is received in Delhi.

11.30 PM: Airlifting of troops begins.

MARCH 1, 2002

2.30 AM: A brigade reaches Ahmedabad. The 54th Division’s General Officer Commanding contacts acting Chief Secretary.

9.00AM: Discussions between representatives of the army and the state take place, followed by troop flag march in Ahmedabad.”

Reports from the biased English media also proved that the real riots had stopped in the first three days. Not just that, the media knew it fully well. The following report from The Hindu dated 4th March 2002 will make it clear:

AHMEDABAD, MARCH 3. The orgy of violence in Gujarat appears to have ended. Today only two deaths were reported, one from Godhra. Officially the death roll is 431, more than half of them in Ahmedabad. Ahmedabad was quiet, apart from two major arson attacks on a Muslim-owned petrol station and warehouse.

Curfew has been lifted in most areas of the 40 towns and cities where clashes were reported, including Naroda and Meghnaninagar (i.e. Gulmarg Society case) in Ahmedabad, where hundreds were killed. The state administration says that curfew will be relaxed in more areas tomorrow. There was a `sense of normality in the State’ today.

But, the smouldering remains of burnt-out buildings and the acrid smell of burning rubber, five days after the violence began, are a reminder that `normality’ in Ahmedabad is a very long way off.

URL: http://www.thehindu.com/2002/03/04/stories/2002030403090100.htm

This newspaper report clearly proves that the government claim of controlling the riots in 72 hours was absolutely true.

   After 3rd March 2002, the riots were mostly all instigated and started by the Muslims and they were limited only to Ahmedabad, Vadodara and some places near Godhra in Panchmahal district.

  Like in Sanjeli where 2,500 Muslims were saved, 5,000 Muslims were also saved in Bodeli, a town in Vadodara district, from a crowd of over 7,000. The following is another report quoted from India Today dated 8 April 2002:

When a Muslim woman was burnt alive by Hindu zealots, (in Viramgam, not far from Ahmedabad) the minorities, who constitute almost 30 % of the 70,000-odd population went on the rampage. Soon, nearly 15,000 Hindus from nearby villages encircled Viramgam and targeted the Muslim localities in the town. It took some deft handling by the police and the Army to save the day.”

And in the 22 April issue India Today said-

“…Take Sanjeli. In the carnage that ensued after the February 27 Godhra killings, 8,000 armed tribals descended on the town of 8,000 in the tribal heartland of Dahod district. Bows, stones and gunshots rained on the fleeing Muslims, killing 15. Police intervention meant another 2,500 were spared a savage death … In an identical display of insanity, around 7,000 armed tribals marched into Bodeli town in Chotte-Udepur tribal area of Vadodara district intent on massacring the Muslims who had taken shelter there after being driven out of the neighbouring villages. While hundreds were saved by the police, Vadodara District Collector Bhagyesh Jha and other senior officers were fired upon by tribals as they tried to rescue the trapped Muslims.

Tragedy was also averted by the police and army at Viramgam town near Ahmedabad where over 15,000 Hindus, mostly armed OBC Thakores, burnt 250 Muslim houses…”

http://www.india-today.com/itoday/20020422/states.shtml

That is to say, the Gujarat police and the Indian Army together saved thousands of Muslims, of the 21,000-odd of the town. If we assume that there was no police or Army presence, 10,000 Muslims of the town may have been killed. On the basis of records available to this writer, we can conclusively say that the Gujarat Police saved at least 17,500 Muslims in Gujarat. As a matter of fact, many sources have told this writer that the Gujarat Police saved 24,000 Muslims in the state in the first three days alone. They may well be quite correct, since we already have on record 7,500 Muslims saved in Sanjeli and Bodeli in the first three days.

The website www.indianembassy.org seems to be an official site of the Indian Embassy in USA. It says-

“In Mora village of Panchmahal district, SDM, Mamlatdar and police rushed to the spot where the crowd was gathered, dispersed the crowd and saved the lives of 400 people by shifting them to a safe place.

On receipt of information on 3rd March 2002 a madarsa in Asoj, in Vagodia, Vadodara district was likely to be attacked, nearly 40 persons including 22 children were evacuated to a safe place.

On the night of 2/3 March 2002, in Dahod, the police escorted over 2000 persons belonging to minority community to a safe place, rescuing them from the mob that had gathered from surrounding 28 villages.

In Surat city, protection was provided to about 60 persons and mosque in Nana Varacha area.On receipt of information that some women and children were trapped in a mosque, Surat police escorted them to a safe place.

On receipt of information that 100 persons were trapped near Rita society opposite Yateem Khana Jain Mandir, the police immediately rushed there and dispersed the mob, but found no persons trapped inside. Surat police immediately provided protection requested for by 12-15 houses of Muslims near Khoja Masjid.

See link: http://www.indianembassy.org/new/gujarat_02/index.htm

   The riots were brought under control in 72 hours. Police records and figures given by the Union Home Ministry as well as figures given by The Times of India dated 7th March 2002 reveal that as many as 98 people were killed in the first three days in police firing. We have already looked at the reports The Indian Express and The Hindu to know that the figure of 98 people being shot dead in the first 3 days is indeed true. This was a record of sorts. Never before were so many people shot dead in police firing for rioting in so few days in the entire history of communal riots in India, and certainly not in Gujarat, which saw far worse riots in 1969 and 1985.

In the entire state of Gujarat, there are 18,600 villages, 240 municipal towns and 25 district headquarters. In the entire state, riots occurred in no more than 70 places. If you include the two big cities of Ahmedabad and Vadodara, by the maximum stretch of imagination, it can be said that 2 % of the state was affected by riots, or was in flames.

The Times of India in a report dated 28 April 2002 reported that “Of the total substantive arrests made by the police, 9,954 are Hindus and 4,035 Muslims. However, in the preventive arrests column, the statistics show that the number of Hindus arrested is much higher — 17,947 as against 3,616 Muslims.”

To quell the violence:

1-Not only did the Gujarat government call the Army as early as possible but also declared this decision publicly on February 28th evening.

2-The Gujarat police arrested nearly 25,204 out of the 25, 486 accused.

 3-More than 17,000 of the 25,000 arrested were Hindus.

4-Police fired over 10,500 rounds of bullets-including around 4,000 in the first 3 days, though Army was present for 73 out of 74 days.

5-Police fired over 15,000 tear gas shells.

6-98 people were killed in police firing in the first 3 days- and 170 for the entire period of the riots.

7-The police arrested 35,552 people as on 28 April 2002 out of whom 27,901 were Hindus. About 20,000 were preventive arrests.

Far from the BJP being in any way involved in the riots, rivals of the then Chief Minister of Gujarat instigated riots in the state after 21stApril 2002 so as to target Narendra Modi in their Modi-hatao campaign. The Rajya Sabha debated on Gujarat on 6 May 2002. The NDA allies’ votes were also going to count. To get NDA allies to vote against the Modi government, the Opposition wanted to keep the riots going on in Gujarat. It also hoped for a collapse of the NDA, with allies quitting coalition because of the riots.

   Riots in the first three days were all the result of Godhra. But Godhra itself was the brain of local Muslim Congress leaders. The Indian Express of 5 March 2002 reported on Godhra that Congress leaders are accused in Godhra:

1- Mehmud Hussain Kalota, convenor of the Congress district minority cell and president of the Godhra municipality.

2-Salim Abdul Ghaffar Sheikh, president of the Panchmahal Youth Congress.

3-Abdul Rehman Abdul Majid Ghantia, a known Congress worker.

4-Faroukh Bhana, secretary of the district Congress committee.

5- Haji Bilal, a known Congress worker.

When 31 people were convicted for Godhra roasting, 2 Congress men were given LIFE IMPRISONMENT and 1 was given DEATH penalty out of the above 5. Abdul Rehman Abdul Majid Ghantia  and Farroukh Bhana have got life imprisonment and Haji Bilal has got death penalty – 3 out of these 5. http://www.rediff.com/news/report/the-men-convicted-for-godhra-carnage/20110222.htmNo 2 , 3 and 15 in this list are the above-mentioned Congress people.

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94 Responses to “Myth 8: The Gujarat government was involved in the riots”

  1. 1
    Naveen INDIA Says:

    After 3rd March 2002, the riots were mostly all instigated and
    started by the Muslims. The riots were brought under control in 72 hours. Far from the BJP being in any way involved in the riots, the Congress Party instigated all the riots in the state after 21st April
    2002 so as to target Narendra Modi in its Modi-hatao campaign. The Rajya Sabha debated on Gujarat on 6 May 2002. The NDA allies’ votes were also going to count. To get NDA allies to vote against the Modi government, the Congress wanted to keep the riots going on in Gujarat. It also hoped for a collapse of the NDA, with allies quitting coalition because of the riots. We will see this in detail later.

    Did u write this or r u quoting from some news source?? Well whoever wrote this should be writing fiction. He/she is sure to win noble prize for literature!

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    Rahul Kedia INDIA Says:

    This has been quoted from a reputed weekly-India Today-and Mr Naveen-noen other than The Hindu reported this charge in its issue dated 6th May 2002. India Today weekly dated 27 May 2002 clearly reports that Congress kept the riots alive to target BJP and Narendra Modi! Mr Naveen you should win a nobel prize for fiction-for trying to DENY THE TRUTH- everybody who was in Gujarat in May 2002 knows that the riots in that month were instiagted by the Congress. Read weekly India today-which is a biased anti-BJP weekly. L K Advani-the then Home Minsiter had also said in his interview in July 2002 that some vested interests had kept the riots alive to tarnish the name of the BJP. This book contains a special chapter-”Role of the Congress and the media in instigating violence”.

  3. 3
    Rahul Kedia INDIA Says:

    Mr Naveen-see this link -which will help you understand the reality- http://ia.rediff.com/news/2002/apr/22bhatt.htm

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    You morons, your explanation that riots have been spontaneous and this and that are just bunch of lies…

    The simple physics says, when something explodes, it spreads fire to its nearby areas or a calculated radius, it does not cause fire spontaneously hundred miles across..

    Similarly, why the hell were BJP, VHP, BAJRANG DAL criminals seen leading everyone all the time, why did not normal people start the riots themselves, these assholes were leading all the mobs, why? why does VHP always shows up in every riot and crimes?? also why the hell were trucks full of VHP criminals transported into gujarat from border states like UP and maharashtra…losers losers and shame on you losers

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    Ramesh INDIA Says:

    Ha ha- you cannot prevent using the word- “Morons”. Nor can you argue on facts- and simply put wild allegations on Sangh Parivar. What about the conviction of 22 Muslims in 4 different cases in courts in Gujarat- including conviction of Congress leaders? What about 5 Congress corporators and 1 MLA who were accused of killing Muslims as reported by The Times of India dated 9th August 2003?????
    On Feb 28- there were 3 mobs of 4-5 thousand each in Patiya- can any organization like the Sangh Parivar assemble so many people in 1 day? At a point of time on Feb 28- there were 25 thousand people targetting Muslim localities in Ahmedabad alone. Can any organization organise this on such a large scale??????/

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    Ramesh INDIA Says:

    And from where are you bringing VHP in the picture? For your information- VHP has presence in all 18,600 villages in Gujarat- and units in 10,000 of the 18,600 villages. If VHP wanted to- it could have created riots in at least 10,000 villages. Why did riots occur only in 40 out of the state’s 18,600 villages- if VHP organized the riots?
    For your information- there are riots and conflicts between Muslims and Hindus in India, Buddhists in China, Christians in Algeria, Nigeria, Morrocco, Phillippines, Chechenya, Jews in Isreal. In all these cases- it is Islam and Muslims which is common- not VHP.
    As for riots in India- VHP was founded in 1964. Riots have been going on in Gujarat since 1834. What about the riots from 1834 to 1964?????? Muslims have attacked Hindus since 712 AD- was VHP responsible for these conflicts?

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    Is it hard to believe that Taliban is giving tough time to US?? no right because they get their funding and support indirectly from pakis and saudi arabia, similarly VHP can organize such mass killings because it gets funding from all over the world from its tentacles and it has support from the BJP

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    Ramesh INDIA Says:

    Putting wild allegations once again. Why dont you see this 16 points wriiten here- and counter every point one by one???
    MASS KILLINGS?????? VHP organized MASS KILLINGS???? These were plain Hindu-Muslim riots in which hundreds of Hindus were also brutally killed- even after Godhra.
    And perhaps you need to know the true face of Islam to realize whos at fault. See this site http://www.islam-watch.org Former Muslims who have studied Islam have found that since Islam’s motto is convert-or-kill- Muslims attack and kill Hindus- like they did in GODHRA and EVEN AFTER GODHRA in Gujarat. Like they have done in Kashmir, they did it in Hyderabad in 1948, on Direct Action Day in 1946 and all through history-from AD 712.
    See what ex-Muslims think about Islam- http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/024-hell-and-hate.htm

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    IF anyone says that VHP/BAJRANG DAL/SHIV SENA AND SO ON are pro-india organizations, that I know either they follow the same ideology or just don’t know them…these organization are playing the same role LET, JEM, AL-QAEDA and others are playing in pakistan, these are indian hindu terrorist organizations trying to do the same to minorities in india that organization from across the border are doing in our country…

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    Deepak UNITED STATES Says:

    For Fanatics like rahul, ramesh and others, here is another slap on your and Gujarat’s government face, who you guys think has done an excellent job all along and does not lie at all about anything. Rakesh sharma had done it again, after final solution , he has now directed 2 movies that focus of devastating situation on Gujarat’s farmer using the official records provided to him by the government, and yet how government is false advertising on TV channels not to give any attention to such reports…you losers instead of talking and back and arguing every point, so spend some money and buy these movies and hear for yourself…

    In the movie FINAL solution also, it is real people saying real stories, just get some balls and watch these movies, and you will see how full of shit you all are, trying to defend everything, and more shameful is, you guys never accept that what happened was wrong, but only focus on issue like less people died, and all that, as in less people died so its a good thing? none should have died, government should have protected them and only punished the real criminals…HERE IS THE LINK, now go cry about this also being propaganda started by congress…

    http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2007/12/two_new_documen.html

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    Rahul Kedia INDIA Says:

    Mister Deepak- this chain of arguments and counter arguments can go on and on. You are not able to understand what we are saying. Our only job is to expose the truth- however disagreeable it may be. Nobody justifies killings. And as for the Congress propaganda- if I was an office-bearer of the BJP or any Sangh Parivar organization- I would definitely have sued Congress and the media. I condemn BJP for its non-action n these issues.

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    isn’t that surprising BJP has not sued either the media or the congress for all these years, hmm let me guess, they are trying to collect evidence so they can sue them right??? lol

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    Rajiv INDIA Says:

    It is not surprising that the BJP has not sued the media for all these years. Because BJP people are DOWNRIGHT FOOLS- even worse than people like you.
    I think that when the Nanvati Commission’s report on the Gujarat riots comes- it will in all likelihood- present the truth. After that-maybe Modi and BJP will sue. If BJP needs any evidence- this site will give it!

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    oh yea, what about bannerji report? do these morons only chose reports that tell their side of story…?? this site will do nothing other than just sit here while people around the world are getting educated abt the reality of Gujarat, oh by the way I just make few copies of FINAL SOLUTION and will give them out tomorrow in my school…that should be a good thing to do to tell Indians everywhere abt the real side of Gujarat…

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    Rajiv INDIA Says:

    Banerjee report?????????
    That Lalu-sponsored Committee- whose constitution was DECLARED ILLEGAL BY THE GUJARAT HIGH COURT?
    The judge Banerjee who said- he doesn’t know that there are elctions in Bihar in 15 days- a man with so much general knowledge- giving a report?
    And what about the burning rags?
    And most important question- if it was an accident- then why the passengers not RUN AWAY from the train and SAVE their lives??????
    They stood waiting in the train dying in the fire- because they enjoyed being roasted alive??????????

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    Deepak UNITED STATES Says:

    Declared Illegal by GUJARAT HIGH court??? I am sure that Gujarati judge himself raped a few girls … do even know the condition of law in gujarat, hundreds of cases re moved out gujarat fearing injustice, and you re giving sake of gujarat high court?? lol

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    one of you retards asked me why did RSS leave 10,000 villages alone and not attack them?? You know I should have had answer to this right away, but as my heart pounds with agony and distress, the answer comes obvious, because why would they burn entire gujarat and loose election?? they systematically targeted muslims in certain areas , so the rest of gujarati’s are unaffected by it, so they can be used in elections to get majority of hindu vote, you losers, this is a fascist design you radicals follow to play with innocent blood, this is the only region the genocide was carried out systematically and in planned areas…

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    Rahul INDIA Says:

    Deepak,
    Your level of debating is clear to all in this site. Calling the judge of the High Court a ‘rapist’-just because its verdict went against what you hoped!
    Ha ha- if you were anyone with even a little importance- contempt of court charges would have put you in prison.
    So much hatred for the BJP- my my…

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    Rahul INDIA Says:

    Retard?
    CORNERED AGAIN LIER. I am surprised really how the moderators of this site have allowed you to post your lies and abuses-You have no answer as to why there were NO RIOTS IN SAURASHTRA AND KUTCH AND IN 10,000 VILLAGES- now you are saying- they only wanted to kill Muslims- so do you think these 10,000 villages do not have Muslims? You think there are no Muslims in Saurashtra and Kutch?
    And for your statement calling the riots GENOCIDE- ONE QUESTION- IS THE DEATH OF 790 MUSLIMS AND 254 HINDUS IN A POPULATION OF 5.5 CRORE A ‘GENOCIDE’? You have not said a word about the 254 Hindus killed in the riots. Maybe you were one of the killers of the 254 Hindus in the riots…

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    This is the reason why you re India, and this is the reason you justify things on this scale, because for a 1000 lives out of 5 crore people is not a big issue. For it to be a genocide, it has to be a million people dead right?? Tell me something, if one member of you family would have killed in the riots, would you still think it was no big deal, all it did was not make the hindus to 255?? right?/ it is just one person…you talk as a stone hearted bystander, who is putting his arguments on numbers, where as to me, loss of life, doesn’t matter how much is a concern…to you 1000 lives lost is a good feeling as compared to what congress did in 84, to me lost of even life in meaningless violence is cause of concern. To people like you, justifying killings is a good thing, because you feel good that hindus were also killed in riots so it is ok have riots, to me its not hindus or muslims, to me, it is about loss of life…

    People like YOU ALWAYS to defend these actions by saying hindus were also called, they were also rendered homeless, so everything what happened was meant to happen, to me this should never even happen..because O don’t see common man waking up one day and coming on road with trishuls and daggers to butcher their neighbors who have nothing to do with happened in a town far away from their lives…

    And you to your question why were some areas left untouched by violence, well you know the answer but these kind of statements help you very well raise issues. Of course modi will not cause riots all over gujarat, because he still needs to keep the hindu emotions on his side, of course he will let the other parts opf the gujarat in normal conditions and let few section burn in agony because this is not about wiping clean entire muslim population you moron…you are talking as if, he is capable of wiping out each every minority, this cannot happened, genocides like this happen to show a group how they re second class people in their own country, systematically killing them, organizing mobs and looting everything they have… OF COURSE HE CANNOT DO IT ALL OVER GUJARAT, BECAUSE THEN EVEN HINDU COMMUNITY WILL SEE NO GOOD IN HIS RULE, BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS THEIR KIDS WATCHING INNOCENT BEING BURNED ON STREETS AS WOMEN ARE RAPED RIGHT THERE…

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    Rahul INDIA Says:

    Mr Deepak-
    IF YOU REALLY HAD ANY BRAINS- I THINK THEY ARE ON VACATION.
    NOBODY HAS JUSTIFIED THE RIOTS- NOBODY HAS CONDONED WHAT HAPPENED. NOBODY CALLS THESE RIOTS AS A ‘MINOR’ ISSUE. It is a human tragedy.
    But that doesnt mean that you have the right to call these riots a ‘genocide’.
    YOU ARE SO FULL OF HATRED- BECAUSE YOUR LIES HAVE BEEN EXPOSED- THAT YOU MAKE BASELESS ALLEGATIONS. YOU ASSUME THAT WE WANT RIOTS AND PEOPLE KILLED-LESS HINDUS AND MORE MUSLIMS.
    WHO HAS EVER SAID THIS?
    YOU CANNOT HIDE THE BITTER TRUTH- THAT MUSLIMS ARE ALSO FANATICS-AND ATTACKED AND KILLED HUNDREDS OF HINDUS IN GUJARAT- EVEN AFTER GODHRA.
    Why do you lie to the Muslim community that there was a ‘genocide’ and instigate them to terrorism- when the reality is that the riots were just plain Hindu-Muslim riots that have happened regularly in all parts of India? Are you paid by ISI to instiagte innocent Muslims to terrorism?

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    If I was paid was ISI, I would actually use that money to bring down this site…but I’m love India as I had read in books, as I have seen myself, as People talk about it, this is why I say the truth that you ears do not want to hear. Of course, people on both sides are FANATICS, but what VHP/RSS is doing is horrific, the only fact that you say RSS is pro-India tells me you are at biased side not me. Are you telling me VHP/RSS/BJD are welfare organizations?? they teach young kids how to kill and fight and spread hatred in their minds in their so called SHAKHAS,how are they any different that terrorist organizations?? only difference in muslim terrorist organization kill outside their country and these monsters are killing inside their country…this is is the only difference.

    You have repeatedly said VHP “EXERCISED RESTRAINT ” may I ask you who the hell is VHP to exercised anything?? are they the law, are they the army?? who gave them any right to do anything, they are a fascist organization with one agenda, clean the minorities out of India.

    If you cannot accept this truth, then obviously you are as much filled with hatred as other people, because yu support their actions, you support what they do as A COUNTER action, but let me tell you, this so called is only the reason why there re more blasts in India.

    You blame for instigating muslims by calling this a genocide, what the hell is RSS doing by actually killing them in their own houses, is that not instigating the new generations to commit crimes?? In most of the riots, why are the political leaders heading the mob?? why does not a common man lead the riots?? because it is these politicians who instigate common people, no one wants to riot or kill by their own.

    RIOTS BETWEEN PEOPLE HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THESE ORGANIZATION THAT ARE STILL HOLDING THEIR FATES IN THEIR HAND. YOU TELL ME WHAT WAS THE REASON TO BRING DOWN BABRI MASZID IN 92 AND CAUSE SO MUCH BLOOD SHED?/ WAS RAM JI HAPPY BY THIS ACTION?/ WILL RAM JI BE EVER HAPPY IF WE RE SUCCESSFUL IN BUILDING A TEMPLE THERE THAT IS LAID ON THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT BODIES?? IF THESE MEN WERE TRU HINDU, THEY WOULD NEVER CONTINUE THIS, BUT THIS ALL ABOUT GAINING HINDU EMOTIONS, SO THEY BENEFIT WITH THEM AT ELECTIONS…

    THE ONLY AGENDA BJP HAS IS HINDUTVA, NOTHING ELSE…NOTHING, THIS IS WHY THEY CANNOT LEAVE THIS ISSUE. AND OF COURSE THEIR CREATORS IS FROM RSS.

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    Rahul INDIA Says:

    And will LORD RAM LIKE DEMOLISHING OF HIS TEMPLE BY BABUR IN 1528-WITH THE MURDER OF 5000 HINDUS? AND WILL LORD RAM LIKE THE BRUTAL ROASTING OF 59 HINDUS IN GODHRA?
    And may the moderators of this site delete this man’s above comment- because of the language it uses.

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    BUR RAM NEVER WOULD WANT US TO KILL INNOCENTS FOR DEATH OF INNOCENTS…HE DID NOT KILL VISHISHAN FOR SINS OF RAVAN, THEY WERE BROTHERS, BUT RAM JI GAVE VISBHISHAN PLACE IN HIS FEET, AND THESE MONSTERS/FASCIST/RAPIST WENT AHEAD AND KILLED EVERYONE, WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME AT GODHRA…NOW THIS TELL ME NONE OF THEM ARE HINDU, IN FACT THEY A FASCIST VERSION OF HINDUISM, WHICH THRIVES ON INNOCENTS BLOOD.

    OHH A NEWS UPDATE: FASCIST LIKE RAHUL HAVE BEEN CLAIMING THAT GUJARAT GOVT HAD NO ROLE IN RIOTS.

    WELL MR. DUMB NUT RAHUL KEDIA FROM GUJARAT(STATE OF THE RAPIST), MAYA KODNANI AND VHP LEADER SOME FAGOT PATEL WERE JUST DENIED BAIL BY HIGH COURT…THESE PEOPLE WERE LEADING THE MOBS FOR KILLINGS OF INNOCENTS, AND YOU WANT EVERYONE TO BELIVE MODI AND HIS TEAM EFFICIENTLY CONTROLLED THE RIOTS???
    I ALWAYS HAD THESE DOUBTS:

    1. DESPITE INCREASING TENSION AT GODHRA STATION BEFORE FEB 27, CONSIDERING IT IS IN MUSLIM DOMINATED AREA, WHY WERE PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES NOT TAKEN??

    2. DESPITE KNOWING THE COMMUNAL HISTORY OF GUJARAT, WHY WERE DEAD BODIES BOUGHT INSIDE AHEMADABAD FOR A SHOW IN FRONT OF PEOPLE??

    3. WHY WERE LOCAL DAILIES ALLOWED TO PUBLISH FALSE STORIES ABOUT RAPES OF HINDU GIRLS (SANDESH NEWSPAPER) AND WHY WERE THEY ALLOWED TO SHOW GRAPHIC IMAGES TO PEOPLE??

    4. WHY WHY WHY??? I WILL TELL YOU WHY?? BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE OF INNOCENTS.

    MODI WANTED BODIES TO BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY TO EMOTIONS CAN GO HIGH, HE LET ALL THE NEWS SPREAD LIKE FIRE SO HE COULD LET HIS BLOOD THIRSTY FRIENDS LOOT AND KILL AND RAPE FOR INITIAL DAYS WHILE CONTROLLING THE VIOLENCE IN SOME AREAS AS TO COVER UP THE WHOLE FACT…THIS IS WHY ABOVE PRECAUTIONS WERE NEVER TAKEN!!

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    avi UNITED STATES Says:

    Mahabharat ki kurukshetra mein, jarurat ram ki nahin, sri krishna ki hai.

    Time has come for hindus to show zero tolerance for any religion which does not understand tolerance.

    1. Iron cuts Iron.
    2. 10 tits for a tat.
    3. Terrorize the terrorists.

    That’s the way to go.

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    arun UNITED STATES Says:

    I know Mr. Deepak might not have seen a single shakha of RSS, it is evident from his comments.
    Good Job deepak.

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    yea and I hope I never seen one in real…a organization that believes in taking up weapons in a civil society and fills young men with hatred for minorities deserves a shit place on my list, I have netter things to do like get certified in computer technologies…I don’t have time to take swords and run on streets behind innocent people and splatter their blood on the road…NO THANKS!!

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    arun UNITED STATES Says:

    Mr. Deepak,

    Please go ahead and get certified in computer technologies, so that we can have more satyams.

    RSS is a nationalistic organisation which tries to build good character in young minds with reverence to Indias culture and its cultural heroes. Since India is a Hindu Nation, with strong cultural association to relegion, it is natural that RSS will also be a Hindu organisation.

    If i am a teacher, of 100 students of which 80 are average, 10 are really good and 10 are really bad, what will be my strategy for teaching?. Will i tow a line which is beneficial for the 80%, or will i spend most of the class time in educating the 10%? I use my class time to 80% does it mean that i don’t like 10% (minority)?. The 10% of good will learn even if i don’t teach them, the 80% will learn if i say 3 times, the 10% required 20 time talking. It is logical that i teach 3 times in the class and have a different program away from the class for the bad 10. The same analogy applies to our Nation too. RSS only says lift the 80%, and the country will be prosperous, that doesn’t mean that ignore the 10%.

    You can use your software technologies to search and find out more about RSS if you are really interested in a result oriented debate.

    Few facts:
    1) RSS was part of the nation bulding in its tru form, for the integration of Dadra Nagar haveli, Goa and kashmir to Indian Union.
    2) RSS was invited to the 1963 republic day parade by the them PM Nehru.
    3) Recently many organisations and news papers could not help but pat the work done by RSS during the Bihar floods caused by Kosi river.

    Regards
    Arun

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    Why do morons like you use past events to prove some in present?? RSS was invited by nehru in 63?? what happened after that?? why were they invited for anything else other than now?? wht is it that propaganda only works in BJP ruled states?? where is RSS in delhi?? please show me their active work done in delhi ( as in raping women, killing children and so on…)

    and you pathetic meatsack, SATYAM is shame on Indians… not me, I don’t live in india or have indian citizenship…corruption and frauds suit well to Indians, please go check the current corruption index and you will find india proudly up in the numbers…

    Just because RSS has some branches that do the welfare work by using money from abroad, does not mean they have license to also kill and mame innocents… RSS is fake organizations, it is never really pro-India, a party that believes inn cleaning out minorities from a country can never do well for that nation, just because RSS is involved in some “educational work” that does not mean they are not killers, they are very well killers of humanity

    Isn’t VARUN GANDHI impressed by RSS ideology?? idiot is currently in jail…hopefully remains in JAIL…

    Wait are u his brother?/because ur name rhymes with his arun-varun, or if not at least you both are idiots!! lol

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    arun UNITED STATES Says:

    Mr. Deepak,

    Past events are required to prove what is present, because the present is made from the past. NRIs like you can claim that the past of you has not affected the present economically, mentally and most importantly biologically.

    Every nation has its own issues, and corruption is an issue Indian will have to resolve. That doesn’t mean that your foster country is not corrupted, just pick any book of Nom Chomsky and read if you can understand his language (mind you it is much cleaner that what you yell out).

    RSS get money from aboard and also from within India. It is not that there are few branches which does welfare work, all together there are more than 1 lakh welfare and social work on going by RSS and affiliated group. I am no way interested in proving it to you as the net is a good toll which you can use to find the truth about.There are many cultural and welfare organisations run by RSS. you can use http://www.rssonnet.org, http://www.sanghparivar.org, http://www.organiser.org do give information about RSS.

    Varun Gandhi is not Arun and we are no way related other than that we are Indians. My parents have clearly told me and shown me who are my relatives, i do not need any one else help to find that out, may be some NRIs need that.

    Regards
    Arun

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    Thanks for mentioning RSS created and promoted websites to elaborate on their good work, please kindly try explaining why RSS is on on the US list of terror outfits operating from India?? damn that must be a touch one to explain…I have mentioned in my earlier post on how Virginia Based Research institute who has close connections with US administration has put RSS on the terror outfit list…well I dun but a welfare organization being branded as terror outfit…

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    Arun UNITED STATES Says:

    Mr. Deepak,

    US removed Mr. Nelson mandela’s name from the terrorist list recently only.
    RSS is not concerned about what is happening in US, RSS work in india and in India it is not a terrorist organization.

    There were incidents of banning RSS.

    1) When Gandhiji was killed. The the subsequent invetigations and court case prooved it to be false allegation and the Ban was removed.

    2) Ban while Emergency. This was a clear case of conspiracy, and RSS played a major role in fighting against emergency. Thoursands or RSS workers staged arrest and sathyagraha, and ultimately the ban and emergency was removed.

    3) After Babri masjid: Here too no proove and the Ban was revoked.

    Regards
    Arun

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    RSS is not concerned about what is happening in US?? RSS/VHP and their followers are all beggars eating out US dollars in name of doing development work in India, if they are really not bothered about what happens in US, then stop begging in front of NRIs to donate money to their organizations, and try to do something without money got for free… ON one hand these terrorist organizations are getting money from UK and US, and then their internet face like Arun are telling me they have nothing to do with US?? what a pathetic joke really…so you know how much funding RSS gets from UK annually?? if that was not possible, these poor, uneducated religious beggars would not be able to purchase talwars, trishuls and bombs in large quantities and distribute them to people before a major religious riots…

    ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT AFTER GUJARAT RIOTS, RSS TOLD HINDUS TO BOYCOTT ENTIRE MUSLIM COMMUNITY?? IF THEY DON’T HATE ALL MUSLIMS THEN WHY PREACH HATRED TOWARDS THEM??

    ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT RSS MEMBERS HAVE BOMBS MADE IN THEIR FACTORIES DURING RIOTS??

    ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT RSS/VHP MEMBERS SPREAD PAMPHLETS FILLED WITH HATE TOWARDS MINORITIES INCLUDING CHRISTIANS AND TOLD HINDU MEN TO RAPE MUSLIM WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO FERTILE??

    ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT RSS/VHP GOONS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED MUSLIM WOMEN DURING GUJARAT RIOTS AND DID UNIMAGINABLE SEXUAL ASSAULTS ON THEM?/ UNLIKE ANY IN INDEPENDENT INDIA’S HISTORY??

    YOU WANT TO TELL ME HOW DOES SOCIAL FACE OR RSS AND AND THIS BARBAROUS , PATHETIC AND SUBHUMAN FACE OF RSS GO HAND IN HAND??

    BECAUSE INDIAN ARE HYPOCRITES… ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, I FELT IT MYSELF, WE RE SINISTER CRIMINALS WHO CONSTANTLY DENY PRESENCE OF EVIL WITHIN US…

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    Arun UNITED STATES Says:

    Mr. Deepak,

    RSS funds its organisational activities and part of the service activities through the “Arpana” during Gurupooja celebrations. I remember about a case in court whether this income should be taxed or not and as i remeber now the verdict was that RSS need not pay tax for this amount. ( I assure you that i am not aware whether there is any further contentions or appeals on this case). This Gurupooja celebrations is ONLY for swayamsevaks and their family and friends. In my life time i have not seen any one other than swayamsevak (at least a one day SS) contributing to this.

    Service activities do receive funds from abroad, but the sources are limited. Most of the time those funds were not enough even to finish a state’s requirements. The service activities do take donations from any one and every one and they are exempted from tax under 80G.

    It should be noted that other than the above case i mentioned, in the 75 years of existance there is not a single scam (financial) came out of RSS.

    Like any other organization, some times activitis do beg for funds, and they are not feeling bad a bit for that seeing their money being used for the right purpose. I believe beging is a better option rather than squeesing it out from a prospective donor. Please rememebr how church squeeses out taxes in Austria/germany and many other EU nations and also remember the latest news about Jizya in pakistan for the sikhs. RSS has never been convicted for any illegal means of fund rising, even after a whole set of so called secularits who handled power for more than 50years tried all the time.

    RSS doesn’ make bomb or has a bomb factory. I have the same argument to say that it is never prooved that RSS did make bomb, or distributed palmphlets targetting minorities during riots. What do you think RSS will be alive the way it is if they are found doign it?

    But many sikhs (including Khiswant singh) do remember how RSS helped and saved many sikhs during the 1980 riots, many minorities of Gujrat earthquake, many victims of the tsunani, bihar floods etc do remember RSS for its wokr during their crisis time.

    The so called evil face of RSS is because of the biased journalism, biased education and secularists of India. It should be noted that when RSS started the pres, the media were all under british control, barring the very few ones run by Tilak and many swadeshi proponents. The sangh work continued without the help of the media. But after independance sangh failed to realise the potential of the press and media and continued to ignore it and so the negative publicity too continued. But it has realised it and is working to fill the gaps.

    Regards
    Arun

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    You uneducated disgraced soul, you should know RSS ideologists wrote a secret letter to then PM Rajiv Gandhi after 1984 riots in which he clearly wrote out that 1984 riots were justified and that sikhs deserved to suffer at the hands of hindu mobs. If you do not know about this fact, go do some history search instead of copying and pasting info about RSS to me …

    Those letters clearly said that, RSS was in favor of teaching sikhs a lesson. They wanted sikhs not to retaliate and just be mute spectators to what happened to them, also RSS sister organization Bajrang Dal came into existence only to tackle sikh extremism in those years, and now it takes pride in killing all minorities including Christians…

    You are talking about if RSS would exist if it was doing what I am saying? tell me how many cultural shows are presented on TV to demonstrate good work of RSS?? tell me any national award in recent history being awarded to any RSS member or anything related to them…TELL ME HOW MANY HINDUS ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT RSS AND THEIR CAUSE??

    MOST HINDUS SAY VHP/RSS ARE EXTREMIST ORGANIZATIONS… you keep saying somehow “their false image” , I mean i don’t understand even the english media wants a false image of them?/ its like saying, a TALIBAN supporter comes in support of Osama and says its the world who portrays OSAMA as criminal and terrorist, but in fact he is a very moral person, because i follow him, similarly because u follow RSS, you believe they re on the right side, and the whole god damn world is just lying!!!

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    DEEPAK UNITED STATES Says:

    THIS IS THE ENTIRE ARTICLE WITH THE LINK AT BOTTOM!!!

    It is generally believed that the Congress cadres were behind this genocide. This is true but there were other forces too which actively participated in this massacre and whose role has never been investigated. Those who were witness to the genocide of 1984 were stunned by the swiftness and military precision of the killer marauding gangs (later on witnessed during the Babri mosque demolition, burning alive of Dr. Graham Steins with his two sons and recent pogrom of the Muslims in Gujarat) who went on a burning spree of the innocent Sikhs. This was beyond the capacity of the Congress thugs.

    I have an important RSS document which may throw some light on the unhidden aspects of the genocide. It was authored and circulated by a veteran ideologue of the RSS, Nana Deshmukh on November 8, 1984. Interestingly, this document was published in the Hindi Weekly Pratipaksh edited by George Fernandes (Defence Minister of India 1999-2004, and presently a great pal of the RSS) in its edition of November 25, 1984 titled ‘Indira Congress-RSS collusion’ with the following editorial comment:

    “The author of the following document is known as an ideologue and policy formulator of the RSS. After the killing of Prime Minister (Indira Gandhi) he distributed this document among prominent politicians. It has a historical significance that is why we have decided to publish it, violating policy of our Weekly. This document highlights the new affinities developing between the Indira Congress and the RSS. We produce here the Hindi translation of the document.”

    This document may help in unmasking the whole lot of criminals involved in the massacre of innocent Sikhs who had nothing to do with the killing of Indira Gandhi. This document may also throw light on where the cadres came from, who meticulously organized the killing of Sikhs. Nana Deshmukh in this document is seen outlining the justification of the massacre of the Sikh community in 1984. According to him the massacre of Sikhs was not the handiwork of any group or anti-social elements but the result of a genuine feeling of anger among Hindus of India.

    This document also shows the true degenerated and fascist attitude of the RSS towards all the minorities of India . The RSS has been arguing that they are against Muslims and Christians because they are the followers of foreign religions. Here we find them justifying the butchering of Sikhs who according to their own categorization happened to be the followers of an indigenous religion.

    The RSS often poses as a firm believer in Hindu-Sikh unity. But in this document we will hear from the horse’s mouth that the RSS like the then Congress leadership, believed that the massacre of the innocent Sikhs was justified. Nana Deshmukh in this document is seen outlining the justification of the massacre of the Sikh community in 1984. His defence of the carnage can be summed up as in the following.

    1. The massacre of Sikhs was not the handiwork of any group or anti-social elements but the result of a genuine feeling of anger among Hindus of India.

    2. Deshmukh did not distinguish the action of the two security personnel of Mrs. Indira Gandhi, who happened to be Sikhs, from that of the whole Sikh community. From his document it emerges that the killers of Indira Gandhi were working under some kind of mandate of their community. Hence attacks on Sikhs were justified.

    3. Sikhs themselves invited these attacks, thus advancing the Congress theory of justifying the massacre of the Sikhs.

    4. He glorified the ‘Operation Blue Star’ and described any opposition to it as anti-national. When Sikhs were being killed in thousands he was warning the country of Sikh extremism, thus offering ideological defense of those killings.

    5. It was Sikh community as a whole which was responsible for violence in Punjab .

    6. Sikhs should have done nothing in self-defence but showed patience and tolerance against the killer mobs.

    7. These were Sikh intellectuals and not killer mobs which were responsible for the massacre. They had turned Sikhs into a militant community, cutting them off from their Hindu roots, thus inviting attacks from the nationalist Indians. Interestingly, Deshmukh would not mind having militant Hindus. Moreover, he treated all Sikhs as part of the same gang and defended attacks on them as a reaction of the nationalist Hindus.

    8. He described Indira Gandhi as the only leader who could keep the country united and on the killing of such a great leader such killings could not be avoided.

    9. Rajiv Gandhi who succeeded Mrs. Gandhi as the Prime Minister of India and justified the nation- wide killings of Sikhs by saying, “When a huge tree falls there are always tremors felt”, was lauded and blessed by Nana Deshmukh at the end of the document.

    10. Shockingly, the massacre of Sikhs was being equated with the attacks on the RSS cadres after the killing of Gandhiji and we find Deshmukh advising Sikhs to suffer silently. Everybody knows that the killing of Gandhiji was inspired by the RSS and the Hindutva Ideology whereas the common innocent Sikhs had nothing to do with the murder of Mrs. Indira Gandhi.

    11. There was not a single sentence in the Deshmukh document demanding, from the then Congress Government at the Centre, remedial measures for controlling the violence against the minority community. Mind this, that Deshmukh circulated this document on November 8, 1984, and from October 31 to this date Sikhs were left alone to face the killing gangs. In fact November 5-10 was the period when the maximum killings of Sikhs took place. Deshmukh was just not bothered about all this.
    Deshmukh document did not happen in isolation. It represented the real RSS attitude towards Sikh genocide of 1984. The RSS is very fond of circulating publicity material, especially photographs of its khaki shorts- clad cadres doing social work. For the 1984 violence they have none. In fact, Deshmukh’s article also made no mention of the RSS cadres going to the rescue of Sikhs under siege. This shows up the real intentions of the RSS during the genocide.

    There is not a single sentence in the Deshmukh document demanding, from the then Congress Government at the Centre, remedial measures for controlling the violence against the minority community. Importantly, Deshmukh circulated this document on November 8, 1984, and from October 31 to this date Sikhs were left alone to face the killing gangs. George Fernandes while making this document public in 1984 wrote that it showed ‘Indira Congress-RSS collusion’. Nanavati Commission must investigate whether this collusion was confined to political sphere or went beyond to killing fields.

    LINK:

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    We Hindus don’t want any certificate from psuedo secularist like Mr.Deepak.i want to give one advice to you Deepak that if you really hate HINDUSTAN and RSS,then why are you remain our religion.go,go change your religion.

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    Devdatt UNITED STATES Says:

    Every thing because of the corrupted Politician and burocrats.
    There must be a special law for them.
    Who are involved in coruption should be punished for 20 years jail or hang.

  39. 39
    Deepak UNITED STATES Says:

    Why will I gate HINDUSTAN…I respect what my country stands for, but YESS I am probably the biggest and worst HATER od RSS/VHP/BAJRANG DAL and so on, who self pproclaim themselves to be representatives of hinduism.

    You stupid freak, who are you to tell me to leave India?? RSS merely has 2% population supporting them, most of them idiots, illetrates, village people with no education and no future…

    You were one of them , and then VHP leader Tagodia sent you to US to bark for their party.

    You have no right to tell nayone what to do, sooner or later RSS mentality will be kicled out of India…and we can see that effect already..

    you cowards are so scared of truth, YOU BAN MOVIES LIKES PARZANIA in gujarat, YOU DENIED VISA to US COMMISSSION, because you were scared of truth coming out.

    You loosers, your only existence is based on religious exploitation of poor and helpless people, the day India will come out of this web, you cowards will run butt up on streets…YOU GUYS ARE REAL COWARDS TO COME IN THOUSANDS and kill innocent men, women and babies, rape young kids…yea THIS IS HOW YOU RE MAKING SRI RAM HAPPY…

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    Chand Usman - the ex-muslim INDIA Says:

    Deepak:-

    Ha ha!!

    Your mature and fake comments doesn’t lies ,true….
    The secularist ideology has made you blind …..

    It has snatched the capacity of balanced thinking from you …..

    This secularism will hold your neck oneday like the way it is holding the neck of Indian congress (because Muslims are asking for more seats in turn of their vote )…..

    You hate RSS/BJP/BAJARANG DAL because
    YOU HATE TRUTH ,

    YOU HATE THE FACT THAT MUSLIMS AND HINDUS WILL HAVE EQUAL STATUS IN INDIA AND THEIR WILL BE NO CONVERSION UNDERTAKEN BY MUSLIMS (and Indians too but it is nil)
    ,

    YOU HATE AND FEAR A POLITICAL REVOLUTION….

    PARZANIA YE FILM ANTI-HINDU THI AUR IT HAD A POTENTIAL TO GIVE RISE TO RIOTS IN WHICH MUSLIMS WOULD HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES ….

    IN ORDER TO SAVE MUSLIM SKIN THIS FILM WAS BANNED BY GUJARAT GOVERNMENT…..

    ABE SHUKAR MAAN YE FILM BAN KI….

    WAHA USA MEIN BAITH KE KUCH BHI MAT BAK …..

    JAI SRI RAM!!

    JAI HIND!!

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    Deepak Says:

    Film ANTI HUNDU thi?? ISKA MATLAB YE NAHI, IT WAS NOT A TRUE MOVIE… THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN GUJARAT.

    By the way, welcome back RAHUL KEDIA …I Know…I know…but welcome back.

    Just for your information, the BAN WAS RMEOVED FROM THE MOVIE, BECAUSE SHAMELESS FREAKS LIKE MODI CANNOT HOLD THE TRUTH BACK, leave this one,

    TELL ME WHY WAS US COMMISSION ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS DENIED THE VISA BY NDA?? If it had nothing to hide, what wa sit scared of? You ex-muslim, you probably change your religion as you change your arguments, tomorrow morning your will be a ex-hindu and new christian to get in pants of a white woman traveling in India.

    And I just don’t talk sitting here in US, i WILL BE IN INDIA IN NOVEMBER, lets meet somewhere…lets see what guts you have to face another Indian .. you probably will be busy butt licking modi and slaving to RSS gurus…I can understand that..

    You think I HATE RSS ideology because I hate truth, tell to this indian people who just be the thought of MODI becoming PM, threw BJP upside down on their face…All Indian are together in this fight against extremism and fascism that RSS/VHP have started in India…and it will die with the end of these so called self proclaimed saviors of hindutva..

    THE BIGGEST proof of this is, how VHP by its own self made a trust to BUILD A RAM TEMPLE, in ayodhya, without including the four peeth’s of India, this tells everyone that VHP is using religion to gain more power and money from india and outside, RSS is greedy and hungry men who want to exploit stupid and uneducated masses in indian rural areas, if they had no political ambitions, they would not have a POLITICAL ARM in form of BJP, BJP itself says RSS is its guiding path, which means BJP members are slave to RSS leaders and are only doing their dirty work in POLITICS…

    NOW J.A.I H.I.N.D. TO THE CORE !!

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    Rahul Kedia INDIA Says:

    Mister foul-mouthed- dont jump to conclusions! I am NOT Chand Usman- I dont need to use a fake name to reply to foul-mouthed numbskulls like you!
    I dont say about Parzania- as I have not watched that movie. But get your facts right- the US religious freedom commission was denied visa THIS JUNE- BY THE UPA GOVERNMENT- UPA has been ruling since 2004. Instead of blaming BJP for it- have the courage to blame UPA- which actually denied visa.
    And one more thing- I will say again- which was said by Ramesh- you had said earlier that you wont come back to post on this site- and you have returned again! so much for your promises. Whether you come to India in November or not is none of my business- but Chand Usman may like to meet you in person-so ask him about it.

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    Rahul Kedia INDIA Says:

    And VHP did show restraint. One -third of Gujarat- i.e. Saurashtra and Kutch were completely untouched by violence even in the first 3 days. Out of 18,600 vilages- only 40 saw riots. VHP had units in 10,000 villages. If BJP or Modi or VHP were hell-bent on attacking- they could have attacked Muslims in Saurashtra, Kutch and at least 10,000 villages in the state. You have absolutely no answer on why 98 % of Gujarat was peaceful.
    Thats because- you only go back on your words- (like not coming back to post here) and use foul language.

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    Deepak Says:

    Oh yes there is every bit of answer to these fabricated lies…for starters, you keep barking that only 40 villages out of 18000 so villages saw riots, where the truth is that 151 towns and 993 villages in fifteen to sixteen of the state’s 25 districts were affected by the post-Godhra violence, which was particularly severe in about five or six districts. This has been quoted in by Figure reported by the Gujarat additional director general of police to the Election Commission, T K Oommen (2005), Crisis and Contention in Indian Society, Sage Publications, pp. 120 so you see KEDIA, every single thing you say is filled with fabrication and lies.

    And to exploit communal emotions, MODI did not need to burn entire gujarat, for that would really cripple his government too idiot, think about the industries, the education system, and the local life, he would really burn entire gujarat for that?? Just because entire gujarat was not burned does not mean MODI saved innocents. If he was honest about saving innocents he would:

    1. Have not allowed VHP Bandh
    2. Had not allowed dead to be demonstrated in Ahmadabad
    3. Would have not allowed false rmors of hindu girls being raped at Godhra
    4. Have not allowed racist Gujarati media to publish instigating reports the next day…

    But he did not do any of this as the CM of the state…

    And to give you a assessment of how much damage was done in so called “2%” of burning gujarat:

    Details of Losses suffered:
    · 38,000 Million Rupees estimated losses suffered by Muslim community.
    · 30,000 Million Rupees estimated to have been lost due to closing down of Shops, industries and
    commerce, the Gujarat chamber of commerce puts the figure as 20,000 Million Rupees.
    · 1150 Hotels burnt in Ahmedabad alone.
    · 6000 Million Rupees loss to the Hotel Industry
    · 5000 Million Rupees worth of property lost due to hotels and restaurants being burnt down in
    Bhavnagar, Ahmedabad etc.
    · 20,000 workers from the hotel industry rendered jobless.
    · Over 1,000 trucks estimated to have been burnt.
    · Transport companies lost business amounting to 700 million rupees.
    · 10,000 Million rupees lost in damage to textile mills in Surat alone.
    · 55 Mosques and Dargahs destroyed in Ahmedabad City and District alone. 180-200 Mosques and
    Dargahs destroyed in other places.
    · 20,000 two- wheelers and 4,000 cars were burnt. Insurance claims worth 80,000 Million lodged by
    owners of two and four wheelers.
    · 90% of commercial establishments have been wiped out on national Highway no 8.

    IF THIS IS 2% OF GUJARAT BURNING, THEN HOW THE HELL DOES MODI CLAIM TO HAVE CONTROLLED THE RIOTS? IS THIS WHAT HAPPENES WHEN YOU CONTROL THE RIOTS WITHING 2 OR 3 DAYS??

    YOU SLAVES OF RSS, YOU ARE ALL HENIOUS CRIMINALS AND LIARS…TOTALLY FILLED WITH SICK MINDED THOUGHTS AND HATRED FOR PEOPLE…

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    Rahul Kedia INDIA Says:

    Villages affected by riots 993? That figure includes the number of villages whose residents were affected in the riots- while they were in other places. Also- people were rendered homeless- Including 40,000 Hindus- as they were displaced. But real riots were seen only in 40 out of 18,600 villages.
    Lets assume that the number 151 and 993 is true. That will still mean that 17,607 out of 18600 were totally unaffected by riots. Calculate the percentage!
    And as for the detailed of losses- all losses were COMPENSATED by the Gujarat government. The government spent Rs 30 a day on EACH REFUGEE in relief camps- and TEMPLES WERE ALSO DEMOLISHED.

    And you are right- 2 % of Gujarat was NOT BURNING. It was less than 1 % that was burning. You have given details of losses- but do you the total values- of which what percentage are these losses? They are less than 2 %.
    55 mosques and dargahs were damaged in Ahmedabad-do you know how many mosques and dargahs are there in Ahmedabad?

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    Deepak Says:

    Fabrication on fabrication, even your leaders can be so shameful and talk proudly and conduct “Gaurav Yatras” I don’t expect a slave to be any better…you are trying to make me feel better than out of 18000 villages only some 993 were affected??

    What is shameful is how these crimes were committed, with precision, consistency all over gujarat, I don’t understand how same weapons were used, same method of using acid tanker, gas cylinders to blow up muslim properties were used in spontaneous reaction??

    Criminals were called from neighbor states like maharashtra, UP and MP in trucks, these were the goons and thugs who did the killi9ngs..

    the common people joined in the death dance to loot and support once they were convinced no police action would be taken…normal people never kill innocent people, it is you criminals, who are willing to do anything for money and liquor who kill innocent, babies, rape kids regardless of their age…

    THE GUJARAT GOVT COMPENSATED THE VICTIMS, Oh i did not know they could compensate a mother, a son or a father…I did not know they could compensate 150,000 refugees’ future…

    Hindus and muslims alike became refugees, but not because they clashed among themselves, because of POWER HUNGRY criminals who kill in the name of religion and always innocents die..MODI IS ALSO A TRUE HINDU RIGHT?? HOW COME HE DID NOT TAKE A TALWAAR and come on streets to take revenge for godhra? he is also human like others..

    WHO WERE THESE MONSTERS WHO WERE RUNNING THE STREETS GANG RAPING, BURNING AND BUTCHERING INNOCENTS? WHO WERE THEY TAKING REVENGE FOR?? THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF CRIMES THAT HAPPEND EVERYDAY IN INDIA, WHERE DO THSE SAVIORS OF HINDUTVA GO THEN??

    THESE KILLERS CAME ON STREETS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO HURT MUSLIM CULTURE BECAUSE THEIR MILITANT CAMPAIGN TO BUILD A RAM TMEPLE WAS CHALLENEGED, THIS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY GUJARAT GENICIDE HAPPEN..

    THESE VHP TERRORIST DON’T CARE FOR HINDUISM , THEY KILLED BECAUSE RSS IDEOLOGY WAS CHALLENGED BY FEW IMMORAL MUSLIMS IN GODHRA…THIS WAS THE ONLY REASON. THIS WAS NO MASS REACTION TO GODHRA KILLINGS…

    And your coward ass has not even paid attention to my question on MODI:
    If he was honest about saving innocents he would:

    1. Have not allowed VHP Bandh
    2. Had not allowed dead to be demonstrated in Ahmadabad
    3. Would have not allowed false rmors of hindu girls being raped at Godhra
    4. Have not allowed racist Gujarati media to publish instigating reports the next day…

    But he did not do any of this as the CM of the state…

  47. 47
    Chand Usman - the ex-muslim INDIA Says:

    Deepak:-

    Anti-hindu thi woh film aur FAKE BHI !!

    Ban hataya gaya kyun ki sari pseudo-secular media, Muslim community and freaks like you were having strike….

    Film fake thi isliye hi nahi chali!!!!Flop hui woh film….

    Abe bina bhege ke aadmi, Ye RAHUL KEDIA KAUN HAIN, I DON’T KNOW !!

    IS TARAH TO MAIN BHI KEHE SAKTA HU KI YOU ARE NOT A HINDU BUT A ANTI-HINDU MUSLIM !!!!!

    AND I SUSPECT YOU ARE!!!!

    You can do nothing but bark and fake ….

    You hate RSS because YOU HATE HINDUTVA!!

    RSS is the only organisation which cherishes Hindu culture….

    It is the only organisation which works on Grass root level…..

    It is the only organisation which strives to purify the mindset of the people(and freaks like you)…..

    BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN BLAME RSS ONLY,BUT THEY DON’T EVEN THINK OF WORKING AT THE GRASS ROOT LEVEL……

    BUT WON’T BE UNDERSTANDING THE LUXURY OF THINKING BY BRAIN…..

    SOCH, SOCH GHUTNE SE HI SOCH……

    JAI SRI RAM !!

    JAI HIND !!

  48. 48
    Deepak Says:

    Dear RSS SLAVE:

    If I post your IP address here which I am sure is illegal to do, you will shut up and just listen. I know who you are, so don’t even try to say something which I won’t agree too.

    Now you to your slave comments:

    You think PARZANIA WAS A FLOW?? Parzania won:
    2006 National Film Awards (India)

    * Won – Silver Lotus Award – Best Actress – Sarika
    * Won – Golden Lotus Award – Best Direction – Rahul Dholakia

    2008 – Screen Awards

    * Won – Ramnath Goenka Memorial Award

    Not to mention, it was overwhelming welcomed abroad , specially in US by Indian who really care for india, as you RSS/VHP who are monsters hiding under name of HINDUTVA…

    Now, you think I hate HINDUTVA?? Tell me how the hell you connect RSS to hinduitva when 73% of india says RSS should be banned?? THIS WAS REVEALED IN A NATIONAL SURVEY conducted a year ago, if you want the link let me know!!

    If I hate RSS, this is because of their true and ugly terrorist work they do, just because they use the money they get to help some poor people in villages, GIVES THEM NO RIGHT TO BRUTALLY KILL OTHERS WHO DON;T FOLLOW THEIR BELIEF.. RSS is a fake organization with sinister goal of gaining power over India, and I am not alone in this fight against them…

    Dude, hardly any population even listens to your dumb leaders, or else they would give BJP a thumping victory in General election..the signal was clear and straight, if RSS VHP AND BJP criminals will sing the song of HINDUTVA, they will go on their face to the ground…

    You guys don’t represent Hinduism, I am also a Hindu, and no matter what , I would not kill innocents to revenge the death of innocents, BLOO CANNOT WASH AWAY BLOOD, YOU SALVE, YOU ARE TELLING ME RSS IS HINDUTVA?? WELL THE FIRST AND FOREMOST TEACHING OF HINDUISM IS TO NEVER ATTACK A HELPLESS INNOCENT SOUL, SPECIALLY CHILDREN AND WOMEN…

    YOU COWARDS DID EXACTLY THAT IN GUJARAT, ORRISA, KERALA AND MANY OTHER PARTS OF INDIA…

    HOW CAN YOU REPRESENT HINDUTVA IF YOU DON;T EVEN FOLLOW ITS TEACHINGS??

    WHEN SRI RAM KILLED RAVAN, HE DID NOT KILL HIS FAMILY OR RELATIVES…THIS IS WHAT HINDUISM IS ALL ABOUT, ABOUT FORGIVENESS AND ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING…

    And lastly, before I am done preaching your pathetic slave soul, IF PARZANIA WAS ANTI -HINDU MOVIE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED ALL OVER INDIA, OR AT LEAST PEOPLE ALL OVER INDIA WOULD HAVE PROTESTED AGAINST IT, BUT THE MOVIE WAS ONLY BANNED IN GUJARAT!!! IS THIS IRONIC OR YOU ARE JUST PLAIN RETARDED?? LOL

    THE MOVIE WAS NOT ANTI HINDU AT ALL, THE MOVIE WAS SHARP CRITICISM OF ROLE OF BJP GOVT ALONG WITH RSS/VHP IN CREATING THE GENOCIDE AND SHOWING IT AS FAIR REACTION… IT WAS BANNED IN GUJARAT ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS ANTI RSS/VHP, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HINDUISM. Not one thing is the movie showed any religious bias, it did show the sinister activities of VHP before and after the Godhra incident you slave…m

    There are hindu people all over india, why will only hindus in gujarat think it is anti-hindu? because that was not the case, if was Banned by GUJARAT GOVT, AGAINST THE WILL OF PEOPLE… and when people showed their strong will, the terrorist like MODI could not even stop the movie…

    JAI HIND ( AND THIS ONE IS NOT A SLAVE VOICE, BUT A INDIAN WHO BLEEDS WHEN OTHER INDIANS BLEED, BE THEY HINDUS, SIKHS, MUSLIMS OR CHRISTIANS) BUT YOU WOULD NOT KNOW THAT WOULD YOU? BECAUSE FOR YOU, HINDUTVAAA IS SOMETHING YOUM GUYS PURCHASED IN MARKET.. THHUUUUU SSAAALLEEEE!!!

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    Chand Usman - the ex-muslim INDIA Says:

    Deepak:-

    BUT THE FILM FAILED TO CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE !!!!

    You always claim that RSS killed innocent children, women ….

    COME UP WITH A PROOF AND THEN CLAIM SO!!!!

    ABE BEVAKUF GUJARAT MEIN PURI BOGIE JALADI MUSLMANO NE…..

    AT THAT TIME KYA BIGHADA THA KARSEWAKS NE UNKA….

    TERE LIYE EK BAT AUR BATA HUN ….AT THAT TIME MIC AT THE MOSQUE THERE WAS SHOUTING “MARO, KATO ,JALDO UNHE!!!!”

    AND I HAVE A EYEWITNESS TO THE GODHRA HATYAKAND…..

    GAYATRI PANCHAL…..THE ONLY SURVIVOR OF THE GODHRA HATYAKAND

    When you will be in India talk to her and then say what you said now…..

    JAI SRI RAM!!
    JAI HIND!!

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    Deepak Says:

    Let me first tell you, the more you fabricate and lie in front of me, at the same time all over India the truth and real face of RSS is becoming clear day by day.

    Let me rip aprt your comments one by one:

    YOU THINK MOVIE COULD NOT CONNECT TO PEOPLE?? OOO RSS KE GULAM, NATIONAL AWARDS ARE NOT GIVEN AS A JOKE TO SOME MOVIE, THEY ARE ONLY GIVEN WHEN A MOVIE CRITICALLY ACCLAIMS PRESGIGE AMONG MASSES, BUT I GUESS YOU ARE BUSY READING HATRED CHAPTERES IN RSS SHAKAS SO YOU DON’T KNOW THAT!!

    Now coming the the most fabricated stories that you tell all the time…

    THE ONLY SURVIVOR OF THE GODHRA KAND.. GAYATRI PANCHAL t

  51. 51
    Deepak Says:

    Now coming the the most fabricated stories that you tell all the time…

    THE ONLY SURVIVOR OF THE GODHRA KAND.. GAYATRI PANCHAL” this is what you wrote right?? How many boogies are usually in one train?? and how many boogies were put on fire??

  52. 52
    Deepak Says:

    How come there are no other eye witnesses from other bogies of that train?? why are you talking about a LONE SURVIVOR?? There should be hundreds of eyewitnesses to the KAND.. probably she is one who is white washed like other hindus are being white washed by RSS…

    Now you are asking me , WHAT PROOF is there that RSS has killed muslims?? This is a very sarcastic and rhetoric question you sick soul… let me ask you…

    WHAT WAS THE PROOF THAT 84 RIOTS WERE CAUSED BY CONGRESS??

    WHAT IS THE PROOF THAT PAKISTAN IS THE ONE TO BE BLAMED FOR DEATHS IN INDIA ??

    The proof for all these are eyewitnesses and confessions made by people, JUST LIKE THIS SITE SAYS CONGRESS CAUSED 84 riots, same way the eyewitness accounts are enough to tell us the RSS organized these crimes…

    Of course the main leaders will not come out in open to attack people, but JUST LIKE PAKISTAN SUPPORTS TERRORIST AGAINST INDIA, RSS SUPPORTS ITS CADRES/SLAVES AGAINST MINORITIES IN INDIA. Just because the top leader did not do the killings, does not mean RSS is free from the crimes.

    All these crimes were supported by RSS AND VHP.

    There are hundreds of eye witbnesses who have said that men who were roaming the streets after Godhra were wearing saffron bands and holding kvives disguised as trishuls…

    THIS IS BIGGEST PROOF OF EVIL NATUREN OF VHP, WHICH HAD TRANSFORMED A HOLY TRISHUL OF SHIV JI, INTO A KILLING WEAPON , HAVE YOU SEEN THE SHAPE OPF THIS WEAPON, IT IN NO WAY LOOKS LIKE A TRISHUL, IT CAN ONLY BE USED TO ATTACKS SOMEONE…THIS IS THE TRUE COLOR OF VHP…

    To prove my talsk, I am going to referecne some chapters from a published report on RSS activities across india, in US based think thank, and all these claims are 100% proven claims… read carefully you MODI SLAVE READ…:

    One does not know as to what criterion the US based Terrorism Research Center, the US think tank on this issue, has used but it has gone on to label RSS, the patriarch of Hindutva organizations, BJP, VHP, Bajarang dal etc., as a terrorist outfit. RSS shares this category with other organizations defamed in different parts of the World as terrorists like Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, Hamas etc. Sangh’s (RSS progeny) own definition and understanding of terrorists has been summed up by RSS pracharak
    (propagator) and current Gujarat Chief Minister, Narendra Modi in the sentence, “All Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims!” How come a Muslim baiter organization itself has been so labeled!

    It seems from amongst the various definitions floating around about terrorism, the one stating, killing of innocent persons for political goals, seems to be the one followed by this center. It goes without saying that in this definition generally states are not included. Lately some states have been called as terrorist states and BJP had been urging upon US to declare Pakistan as a terrorist state. Some states have been listed as terrorists by US itself. We will not go on to discuss the violence of the state and its
    goals, which is quite a complex phenomenon. We will also not touch upon the bias exercised by those defining terrorism. In a limited way we follow the definition, killing of innocents for political goals, we will try to see whether the assessment of US based center is true.

    It is important to concede here that terrorism emerges from ideology of groups with specific goals. It is also important to realize that all those who manufacture this goal and ideology, which leads to violence are terrorists or rather they are the real ones’. And if the blame is to be apportioned, they
    should be held more responsible before the finger is pointed to those who use sword, bullets or AK 47 or who pilot the planes to ram into WTC or the like.

    No doubt the RSS pracharks will never even go to pick up arms, to kill anybody personally. Even in RSS shakhas training is given only for wielding lathis, batons. Of course keeping with times RSS progeny Bajarang dal and Durga vahini have begun to give training in the use of firearms and VHP is distributing knives, disguised as trishuls in thousands, but in RSS shakhas these are no no. Apart from the lathi wielding the other part of the training is bauddhik (intellectual). This training is based on the spread of hatred for minorities, hatred for secular and democratic values. It goes on to say that in this nation of Hindus, others, Muslims and Christians are aliens, also that Communists, Muslims and Christians are internal threat to Hindu nation.

    The venom of hate is tailor made for each community. Muslims are equated to yavan snakes. Prof Bipan Chandra narrates his experience in listening to the shakha training. While on a morning walk he overheard the young boys attending the shakha being told that Muslims are like snakes. It is easier to kill a young snake rather than the grown up one. The message of this ‘intellectual’ exercise is too clear. The inspiration and methods of Hate are picked up from the Nazi Germany. RSS ideologue Golwalkar articulated it, ” German race pride has now become topic of the day. To keep up the purity of nation and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of Semitic races-the Jews. National pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-neigh impossible it is for races and cultures having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for us in Hindustan to learn and profit by.” (M.S. Golwalkar, We or Our Nationhood defined, Nagpur 1938 p.27).

    One wondered whether RSS really means it. But to one’s utter shock one was told by a senior RSS ideologue that if a person of the stature of Gandhi could not solve the ‘Muslim problem’, what can the present small genre of pseudo secularists achieve! As per him (and apparently as per RSS) there is a single solution to this problem, what one knows as the “Final Solution”! This hate ideology, which is drilled in the heads of young recruits is the base on which the foundation of communal violence comes up. The RSS ideology’s outcome first got manifested in Godse’s murdering of Gandhi. Of course RSS never owned the fact that Godse was trained by RSS and was RSS pracharak before he decided to join Hindu Mahasabha. His brother Gopal Godse maintained in different interviews that they (his brother Nathuram and he himself) had never left RSS. Most of the inquiry commission reports on the communal violence (Justice Reddy, Vithayathil, Venugopal, Madon and others) have shown irrefutably that their has been a role of some organization affiliated to or floated by a pracharak of RSS, which has played crucial role in the violence.

    The strategy is very clear, RSS trains the volunteers who carry on the RSS work by joining or floating different organizations. The advantage of this strategy is that the blame of riots can never come directly on the RSS.

    One recalls that after the defeat in 1937 elections, Muslim Leagues and Hindu Mahsabha stepped up their Hate other campaigns as they could not win the elections on the appeal of their religion. RSS also stepped up its hate other campaign. These poisonous seeds of hatred were dormant and are bearing the poisonous fruits more so after the decade of 1980. This hate other ideology passes through different conveyor belts and its final stop is that where the poor gullible sections take up arms, intoxicated by the opium of hate ideology which is laced in the language of religion for desired effect.

    Every terrorist outfit has its own agenda. Al Qaeda was trained by CIA via Pakistan to throw away the Socialist Russia’s occupation of Afghanistan. LTTE is a reaction the Sinahala domination of Tamils, Khalistainis were the expression of deeper dissatisfaction of Sikh masses on economic and ethnic grounds, ULFA again is the expression ethnic problem handled in an insensitive way and so on and so forth. RSS and Muslim League in pre-partition times were the expression of the fears of feudal elements that their norms and values are under threat in the wake of modern education, industrialization and the values of Liberty, Equality and fraternity becoming the major ideology of the struggling masses. The same fear, existential anxiety, of another middle classes has got crystallized in the politics of RSS. And this is the coming up of dalits and women demanding social and gender justice some themselves. Whatever is the deeper societal agenda, RSS methods and mechanisms of action do give rise to the VHPs, Bajarang dals and Durga Vahinis. It is probably this deeper understanding of the dynamics of RSS functioning which must have prompted the research center to label it as a terrorist organization.

    RSS training is on twin tracks. One is the physical one, games and all that. The second is the bauddhik one. It is the latter which motivates its progeny to incite people to take up arms and kill the ‘other’, the ‘enemy’ in the ruthless fashion. The anatomy of a riot, violence, is very interesting and complex both at the same time. How the average dalit, adivasi, worker with empty stomach and non existent future is mobilized as the foot soldier of RSS agenda, is something social scientists have to explain. RSS pracharak may be at the same time sitting and giving a quiet discourse on Hindu values, Hindu rashtra while RSS ideology will grip the section of population to unleash violence, to kill the innocents. It does achieve the political goal of consolidation of section of Hindus behind RSS; it does make them come back to power or strengthen its power. The definition with which we began was killing of innocents for power or political agenda is terrorism. And that’s precisely what RSS work does.

    The only point of overt confusion some times can be that unlike Osama, or the AK 47 weilding terrorist in parts of the World, RSS volunteer will appear to be the apostle of quietness. And this is the wiliest and cleverest part of RSS operation. To achieve its goal, to get the minorities beaten and killed without taking up the arms oneself. The violence is leased out by clever social and psychological manipulation. In that sense AK 47 may miss the target but a mind poisoned and initiated by Hate ideology propagated by RSS will come out as violence some time or the other, here or there, it’s just a question of time. Culture, the cloak of this organization is the most subtly disguised cover for the terrorist goals of this organization. This terrorist outfit kills many birds in a single stone, the birds being minorities and weaker sections of society. But of course there will be much noise that name of RSS should be taken off from the list of this research center. In case of RSS, this outfits’ culture is the terror for large sections of minorities and weaker sections of society in India.

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,future winner of Nobel peace award,second M.k.Gandhi,great philosofer,social scientist,MR Deepakji
    You are great person. really great.I feel very sad about Muslim peoples in the Hindustan.I have change my mind by reading your last comments.now i decided to become a secularist.Tommorrow onwards, i will kill each and every hindus and support to SIMI and Miraz riots to appreciated their vilonce against hindus.Hindu sab Namard hain.

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,future winner of Nobel peace award,second M.k.Gandhi,great philosofer,social scientist,Masiha of Muslim people,MR Deepakji,
    You are excellent person in this earth.Bhad me gaya Hindutva and SANGH PARIVAR.kya rakha hain isme.This SANGH PARIVAR’S volunteers are workless and aimless.They have nothing to do.They left their homes for the purpose of work in ADIVASI SECTOR where some of them were killed by MAOIST OR NAXLIST.yeh to pagalpan hi to hain.Rahene do un Adivasion ko waise hi illeterate,poor and let them converted into Christian or Muslim religion.Hamara kya jata hain?Hame to sirf USA me hi to rahana hain?Tyag nam ki chij iss Sangh Parivar ko malum hain kya?they are remained unmarried for Hinduism like Dr.Pravin Togdia,Sadhvi Hritambara.They are half mad thats why they are working for GOGRAM YATRA,HINDU SANGHARSH SAMITI,AND SO ON!
    Godhra train jaalan hatyakand ke bad VHP AUR BAJRANG DAL ke logon ne kahana chahi ye tha ke “Muslimbhaiyo Aap logon ne pichese hamari mar diyi hai to ab agese bhi mar di jiye ham kuch nahi kahenge.Pichele 500 salonse hamari maa bahenon ki ijjat apne lut liyi hain to ab bhi apke pass mauka hain ,ham sirf dekhate rahenge pichale kayi barsonse yahi to ham kar rahe hain.”because it is our real secularism.right Mr.Deepakji?tommorrow onward i will pray for PARLIMENT attack fame Afjal Guru and Mahamad Kasab to not hang by Hindustan,from tommorrow I myself destroyed the idol of Lord Ganesh,Lord Ram because i do not want to give pain to the hands of Muslims.I definately sure that you will wellcomed my new Avtar.
    To Chand Usman,
    Say sorry to second M.k.Gandhi MR.Deepakji.you are totally unknown about the power of Deepakji.He can change all the world by sitting in USA.We are psycho guys.
    Long live AL QUEDA AND SIMI!JAY OSAMA LADEN!JAI DEEPAKJI KI!HELL HINDU RELIGION!JAI SECULARISM!

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    Deepak Says:

    Vivek,
    You are using IRRELEVANT, SARCASTIC and RHETORICAL arguments to make any point, even if it exist. I don’t give a damn if RSS men get married or not…they commit enough sexual crimes anyways, that marriage is a shame for these heinous criminals..

    Now let me break down your pathetic, self propagated arguments bit by bit, first of all tell me who the hell gave RSS the right to represent hindus worldwide?/ Majority of Hindus within india don’t support its existence, then how the hell they can claim they are working for our benefit??

    They have one political agenda, and that is to communally divide india and rep fruits in politics, if they had no interest in power, BJP would not exist.. I know congress and BJP are both alike when it comes to national security, corruption, development..

    BUT I NEVER SAY WHAT CONGRESS DID IN 84 WAS JUSTIFIED, whenever that debate comes up, I condemn Rajiv gandhi for letting his followers cause mayhem in delhi and elsewhere, and do I blame all congress leaders who instigated the mobs..

    Doode when VHP AND RSS say in public, this was a mass reaction, any matured and self aware person would laugh it out, given india’s present social condition, the so called “hindus who were angry” comprised of dalits, adivasi’s and begagrs who could barely fill their stomach, they were all mobilized dude to RSS hate work against minorities being done over the years, and when they got spark, they ignited it into a explosion..

    I never said, muslims or anyone else who do wrong things should be just left, those who commit crimes should be hanged or even killed, they deserve that, BUT BLEEDING INNOCENTS IS NOT JUSTIFIED YOU RSS SLAVE , GET IT??? IT IS NOT JUSTIFIED…

    BLOOD DOES NOT WASH AWAY BLOOD!!

    What muslims in godhra did was terrible, unacceptable, they should have been arrested and prosecuted, also hanged, even if there number was in hundreds, I don’t care, but killing other muslims all across GUJARAT including children is even worse worse worse criminal and barbaric crime a man can ever do…

    AND WHAT ABOUT THE SEXUAL VIOLENCE?? YOU FOOL, WHY DON’T YOU UTTER SINGLE WORD ON SEXUAL VIOLENCE COMMITTED AGAINST WOMEN?? THEIR IS UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE THAT WOMEN WERE SYSTEMATICALLY TARGETED, WAS THIS ALSO A NATURAL REACTION???

    So called RSS SHAKHAS, if they had a noble goal in mind, would only make a young person strong to defend himself and educate himself, but they preach hatred to them, by saying all muslims are enemies of US, this single ideology is enough to tell everyone, RSS is no social or welfare organization, that is just a mask they use to hide their heinous thoughts…

    Every time they come under ATTACK, they use the cloak or HINDUISM to hide behind indian people as if they have support of entire India, why does not RSS workers show any drama in delhi?? because they now, over there they will be ran down like mad dogs and killed, these cowards can only bark where PSEUDO-HINDUTVA PARTY B J P (BHARAT JALAO PARTY) is in rule…COWARDS COWARDS COWARDS…

    And don’t preach me about me living in USA and bullshit, I care more about indian than your grandfather even cared for your family… and wait for another week before i start posting about ANOTHER HENIOUS REVELATION THAT I HAVE UNCOVERED, I KNEW ABOUT THIS FROM LAST YEAR, BUT DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK UNTIL I KNEW IT WAS TRUTH FACT, WHICH IS RELATED TO VIDEO FOOTAGE RECORDED BY VHP CRIMINALS DURING RIOTS SHOWING REAL CRIMES COMMITTED BY THEM ON INNOCENTS…!!

    For months i was in shock that this can also be done by someone, by my friend in MUMBAI, after 6 months of hard work has finally ebign able to recovered few films recorded by amateur cameraman during actual riots that show the unbelievable crimes as they were happening, in his e-mail he said “MY BLOOD BOILED AFTER WATCHING FIRST 10 MIN OF THE FILM”

    JAI HIND, LONG LIVE DEMOCRACY AND DEATH TO COMMUNAL HATRED, FASCISM AND PSEUDO NATIONALIST AGENDA!!1

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,future winner of Nobel peace award,great philosofer,second M.K.Gandhi,social worker,Masiha of Muslim religion,Maha Manava,Mr.Deepakji,
    another excellent article.You should write a book on secularism.You will definately earn lot of money from its copyrights.keep it up.Should we established a new party named as ‘Hindu Jalao Secularist Party’.You will be the president of this party.Osama Bin Laden will be the spokesman of the party and myself will simple party worker.our party’s agenda should as follows 1)Party if comes in power then all RSS and her sub hindu organisation’s volunteer will send into Gas Chember.
    2)all hospitals,Anathashrama,schools,Goshalas,blood banks which are builded by Sangh Parivar in the Adivasi Sectors will be demolished.
    3)all Hindus should forced to wear cross locket arond nake.
    4)all hindus should forced to offered a Namaz at every Friday.
    5)at every temple,the lines of bible and Quran should be read loudly.
    6)Hindus should keep quite even after relatives is butured or raped by Muslim or christian people otherwise HJSP will call the tanks from border if Hindus start to defend itself.
    7)In Hindustan,Shariyat Law will be charged at all over.
    8)Muslim people will be allowed to rape at least 3 hindu women per day.
    9)JO HINDU RELIGION KO JYADA SE JYADA GALIYAN DEGA USKO INCOME TAX ME CHOOT MILEGI.
    10)HJSP will impose Zijiya tax on Hindus and it should be collected strictly otherwise hindus will get punishments.
    11)US based intellegence buero and terrorist oraganisation CIA and FBI will see if implementation of above agenda is correctly done or not.
    12)and at last but not least,HJSP HAM US ME BAITH KE HI CHALAYENGE,AC ROOM CHHOD KE KAUN HINDUSTAN AYEGA.
    Deepakji, don’t feel nervous. you can put your own more strict and cruel laws a
    gainst Hindus.
    Muze accha laga ke aap USA me baith ke muzse jyada Hindustan ki care kar rahe hain.I lost my grandfather when i was 7 year old.so i don’t remember how much my grandpa took care of my family but we never count love and affection in the dollors.O.K.?

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    Deepak Says:

    dude Vivek, you dun really have to be sarcastically respectful to me because I am not gonna give you any concessions!! So stick to the basics and call me by my normal name ye ji ji MODI AUR USKE CHAMCHON KE SAMNE ACCHA LAGTA HAI…HUM HINDUSTANIYON KO TERE JAISE GULAMO SE JI JI SUNNE KI ADAT NAHI HAI TUNNA!!

    AN SUN MERI BAAT APNI GULAMI KO CHHOD KE:

    The debates you made earlier and the sentences you are throwing at me NOW clearly show your frustration as to whenever a guy does a good research and taunts you guys with the real crimes you do every day in streets!! AND YOU SHOULD BE FRUSTRATED, BRO YOUR WHOLE PARTY IS!!

    You are telling me I have thoughts similar to a party who likes to burn Hindus? Meaning Congress?? are we forgetting that it is the same HINDUS, MUSLIMS, SIKHS, CHRISTIANS alike who got congress back to power!!

    If your BHARAJ JALAO PARTY( bjp), RACIST SEXIST SAMAJ(rss) AND VIOLENT HENIOUS PARTY(vhp) were doing any good for India, it would be you guys in power not Congress…Congress cannot win only with muslims vote, it got support of most of the country…WHAT HAPPENED?/ YOU GUYS COULD NOT JUSTIFY YOURSELF ENOUGH DURING ELECTIONS?? OH LET ME GUESS, YOU WERE BUSY DECIDING WHO WILL LAY THE FIRST SHEILA AT AYODHYA?? HAHA!!

    If anyone gave a damn about this temple issue, and it they thought it was genuine issue, you guys would have been supported, but The hindus of India themselves rooted you guys out, IN 1984 AFTER RIOTS, CONGRESS CAME BACK WITH THUMPING MAJORITY , (im not saying, this is something to be proud of) BUT THEY DID, AFTER GUJARAT RIOTS, BJP WENT OUT OF POWER, AND NOW HAS BEEN DEFEATED TWICE CONSECUTIVELY!

    You morons and your leaders got one chance in entire history of India to get in power, and what was the result? who were kicked out by the very HINDUS, who claim to be working for…dude you can propagate all you want, RSS is getting MILLIONS OF DOLLARS from outside india, not to mention all the home sick hindus who just donate blindly, yet if they can make few hospitals, and blood banks, THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANY MIRACLE…

    JUST EQUATE THAT WITH ALL THE BLOOD THEY HAVE SHED OF INNOCENTS, I THINK ALL THESE BLOOD BANKS WILL RUN SHORT….

    BETA KUCH AUR SALON KI BAAT, TERE JAISE LOGON KO AYR TERI PARTY RSS KO JOOTE MAAR MAAR KE INDIA SE BAAR KARENGE, SALON AGAR BHAGWAAN KA NAAM LE KE LOGON KE BATANA BHUL NA GAYE TO FIR DEKHNA…

    AGAR TUM LOG SACCHE HINDU HOTE, TO IT WOULD NOT MATTER WHERE YOU BUILD RAM TEMPLE, BHAGWAAN TO KAN KAN MAIN BASTA HAI, TO FIR KYA AYODHYA AUR KYA LANKA…KAHI BHI MANDIR BANAO, BUT YOU CRIMINALS WANT TO MAKE AN ISSUE THAT CAN RIP APART EMOTIONS , CONGRESS ALSO REAPS ON MUSLIMS VOTES, BUT IT IS NOT AS CHEAP AS BJP WHO REAPS FRUIT ON CHEAP RELIGIOUS POLITICS…YOU GUYS ARE FAR HENIOUS AND SELF DEGRADED THAN SAMAJ WADI PARTY + CONGRESS + CPI…

    VANDE MARTAMMMM… MODI BESHARAM…. RSS KA KUCH NAHI DHARAM!!!

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Future winner of Nobel peace Award,social worker,great philosofer,Masiha of Muslim community,social scientist,President of Hindu Jalao Secularist Party,Former Congress praiser, Mr.Deepakji,
    If someone read your last excellent post then he will surely offered you BOOKER PRIZE!
    Let me clear you one thing I never get frustreted by your silly,one sided views.If Hindu do not want to support RSS then why are Bhartiya Janta Party won Gujarat-Madhya Pradesh-Karnataka-Chattisgarh-Punjab-Himachal Pradesh Assembli elections between 2006 to 2009?BJP was lost last Parlimentory election due to party’s internal conflict not by rejection of Hindus.They were failed covered the issue of terrorism,electricity power etc properly.Leader likes Pramod Mahajan,Atal Bihari Vajpayi,Uma Bharti was not available in the election campaign.My political knowledge surely more than you.Agar main BJP ka Gulam hun to aap bhi Congress party ke Gulam lagate hain jaisake Aap ne Congress ki tarrif ki hain!Don’t teach me politics mr.philosofer.
    See Mr.HJSP,Akhand Hindu Rastra is our important aim.for that purpose we can do whatever as per situation demanded.No one can stop us neither you nor your congress party.Since last 600 Hindu religion tolerated lots but now our Hindu organisations can’t stand it.With the exact word of Swatantraveer V.D.Savarkar to all Muslim in the Hindustan “YEH HINDU RASRA HOGA,JARUR HOGA,AGAR AAP AYE TO SATHME,NAHI AYE TO AAP KE BINA,AUR AGAR HAMARE RASTEME AYE TO AAP KA SAMPURN VINASH KARKE YEH DHYEYA HAM PURA KARENGE”!
    Bajrang Dal,VHP ne Gujrat me badla liya,Orrisa me christian logonko sabak sikhaya,Amarnath problem ke time 3 moths kashmir ghati ka high way band kiya(only kashmir not jammu where majority of hindu are most)tab aap ke so called congress party ne hindu organisations ko ban kyu nahi kiya kyonki ye Hinduon ki Takad aur revenge tha.YOU GET IT?
    You are Hindustani?and living in USA?HA HA HA!what a joke!RSS(and I) will be thrown out of Hindustan?HU HU HU.its another Joke.Waise Din sapne dekhna buri bat nahi !

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    Deepak Says:

    Well said RSS ke chamche:

    Bajrang Dal,VHP ne Gujrat me badla liya,Orrisa me christian logonko sabak sikhaya” This indeed is the truth , it WAS NO MASS REACTION TO GODHRA INCIDENT, A WELL PLANNED MASSACRE OF INNOCENTS..

    RSS BHARAT SE BAHAR ZARUR JAYEGI… ALREADY PEOPLE ARE HATING ITS IDEOLOGY… AND TALKING ABOUT ABOUT ELECTION, I GUESS YOU ARE OK WHEN YOU CLAIM BIG WINS , FOR YOUR INFORMATION YOU GUYS ARE NOT POWER IN KARNATKA, DON’T COUNT BETWEEN 2006-2009, GADHE AISE TO B/T 1947-2009 CONGRESS HAS RULED FOR ALMOST 95% !! MORON STOP MAKING BOGUS COMPARISONS, REALIZE THE TRUTH.

    GUARANTEE NEXT ELECTION BJP WILL SCORE MERELY 50-75 SEATS, those also mostly in MP, GUJARAT and may be UP because most of india’s religious slaves are in these states, people in these states on average are so poor, they are miserably deepened on GOD to SAVE THEIR LIVES AND BETTERMENT, THEY HAVE NO EDUCATION TO HELP THEMSELVES..

    I usually only debate when a person replies to main points that I have raised, but you silently miss those points and chose those ones that benefit you…

    Pathetic is your analysis that ATAL BIHARI, UMA AND PROMOD WERE SO IMPT THAT YOUR PARTY LOST ELECTION, dude ATAL BIHARI CAN BARELY OPEN HIS EYES, what benefit will it do to SLAVE OF RSS BJP?? UMA BHARTI, she is less qualified to be a politician than my pet doggy… and PRAMOD MAHAJAN?? HE DIED BECAUSE HE DESERVED IT, A GUY WHO BLACKMAILS HIS BROTHER AND SEXUALLY ABUSES HIS WIFE WILL ONLY GET A BULLET ..LOL SHAME SHAME!!

    B J P lost because of three issues:

    1. singing the fake agenda of RAM TEMPLE and hindutva

    2. Showcasing terrorist MODI as next PM, this guy if by mistake leaves Gujarat CM post, will be killed in streets of India like a mad dog

    3. Barking against leaders like MANMOHAN as weak and calling Congress at 125 year old Bhudiya…lol you idiots were shown the real face!!

    AND FOR ME LIVING IN USA, Madhuri dixit lives in LA, she is is not indian?? there are some 2 million Americans in USA, they are not Indians?? SALE JIN INDIANS SE BHEEKH MAGTE HAI DOLLARS KI, THEY ARE NOT INDIANS??

    SALE BIKHARIYON, even though I pity India for having you dumb asses in it, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR STRENGTH, THEN I MUST SAY YOU GUYYS ARE COWARDS COMPARED TO TERRORIST OF PAKISTAN…THEY COME IN GROUP OF 10 AND KILL 200 OF US, YOU SLAVES COME IN PACK OF 25000 TO KILL 2000 …YEA TUMNE HINDUON KA DAM DIKKHAYA, SALE BIKHARI, YOU KILLED INNOCENTS IN GROUPS OF THOUSANDS…IN REALITY YOU CAN’T EVEN HAVE SEX WITH YOUR WIVES…THATS WHY THEY HAVE EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIRS…

    FUTURE IS TRUTH, FUTURE IS FREEDOM, NOT SOME SLAVE, 18TH CENTURY MENTALITY OF RSSS…THUUUUUU

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Masiha of Muslim people,Future winner of Nobel peace award,great philosofer,second M.k.Gandhi,Former leader of congress party,President of Hindu Jalao Secularist Party,social worker,Mr.Deepakji,
    I have alread said that my political knowledge more than you.For your kind information BJP won 117 seats out of 224 assembly seats in the karnataka in 2008.In the Gujarat,BJP won fabulous 122 assembli seats out of 174 seats.and In MP,HP,BJP won sufficient majority to came into state power.and let me tell you one thing karnataka,Gujrat states are more progressive states in the Hindustan because CM of that states is not currupt.
    Mr.social scientist,without any proof,how can you say that Pramod Mahajan was kept physical relationship with his brother’s wife?if it is true then i can also say that you are also physicaly related with your sister.it is your bloody US culture not Hindustan.and how can you support to so called revenge taken by Pravin Mahajan?Agar yehi bat hain to ham bhi kahe sakte hain ki RSS ne godhra train incident ka gujarat me aur VHP leader Swami Laxmanamandji ke murder ka(jo Christian church ke kahane par kiya gaya)revenge Orrisa me liya! RSS’s lawyers proved in the high court that the rape on the christian nune was not attempted by Bajrang Dal but she was raped by church father.and now supreme court rejected the appeal given by christian loby.Get it?Madhuri Dixit is sensible woman.she used to visit Hindustan at least twice in the year.Tell me how many time you came to Hindustan since last 10 years?Hindustani kahate ho aur apne comments me Hindustan ko hi galiya dete ho yeh kounsa hindustani proud hain?
    Mr.HJSP,your faltu comments can not stop us from making Akhand Hindu Rastra.Stop your non sence and one sided views.If you have some dare then come in the Hindustan and stay at the area like Mumbra,Azamgarh,Behind the Bazar,and Malegaon where Muslim population is over 73%.them tell me about secularism.US me baith ke bate karna assan hain lekin In hindustan,social situation is far different.
    Jai shri RAM!

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    Ram AUSTRALIA Says:

    Deepakji, You better do not continue to be Hindu. Once you have become slave to Sonia, you are not anymore Hindu and you enter the Bigotry circle. Visit Haindava Keralam website to know day to day attrocities committed against Hindus by the various non-BJP governments. If you beleive that RSS is extremist and they preach violence against non-Hindus (which in itself is false), why do non-RSS common Hindus are slowly getting united and raise their voices. Your Sonia bought out all the English TV channels and everyday propagate against Modi. Your COngress has money that it has looted for more than 50 years of power and can buy anyone. In Tamilnadu, garland made of chappals is put on Ganesha statue. Can it happen in any country in the world – to Christ in Christian countries or defaming a mosque in a Muslim country. STOP YOUR SICKUALRISM. BJP IS THE FUTURE, whether you like it or not. We have to handover a country with pride to our future generations and get releived of our slave mentality.

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    Deepak Says:

    RAM (Retarded and Molested) and VIVEK:

    Here is a combined one for both of you, see I will be on vacation for like 20 days or so, will be in mexico then hawai, before coming to India…so here we go:

    BJP is the future?? LOL… Two consecutive defeats at NATIONAL LEVEL?? and party in peices?? yea your future looks real bright…

    AKHAND BHARAT?? Do you even know the definition of Akhand?? It means United, it in no way means only Hindu YOU MORON!! YOU DUN EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE IDEOLOGY YOU SUPPORT, BAS pahni chaddi aur talwaar le ke chal pade gulamon ki tarah…

    And even if you are so dedicated to make INDIAN, your so called AKHAND BHARAT, tell me what have you done so far?/ VHP came in existence in 64, ABHI TAK RAM MANDIR TO DUR KI BAAT, YOU GUYS DUN EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEP ON THE LAND…AUR BAAT KARTE HO AKHAND BHARAT KI?? SALE JOKER, TUMKO USE KIYA JAA RAHA HAI KUTTON KI TARAH…

    Akhand bharat will really mean taking all the citizens together and moving ahead, not JUST HINDUS…and dude, for so many years you guys are trying , what have you achieved so far?? BJP CANNOT EVEN REMAIN IN POWER, YOU THINK THEY CAN MAKE INDIA A HINDU RASHTRA?? FORGET IT YOU SLAVE… KEEP LICKING MODI’S SHOES…THATS YOUR SALVATION…HAHA!!

    VANDE MATRAM!!

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    Deepak Says:

    oh…one thing I just noticed?? How many times I have visited India in Last 10 years?? It is barely been 9 years since I moved here, bro I have grown up in streets of delhi, unlike what you think…

    I visit every year, except in 2007 I could not come because of my exams…pichle saal bhi main india main tha…movie RACE WAS RELEASED when I was there…I was wondering how come ye RSS ke chaddi hanuman dun attack theaters in delhi?? in the name of culture? HAHA

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    Ram INDIA Says:

    Deepakji-Have a nice trip wherever you are going to.
    “BJP is the future?? LOL… Two consecutive defeats at NATIONAL LEVEL?? and party in peices?? yea your future looks real bright…”

    For you, 10 years of power to Congress is so great that you boast it as an himalayan acheivement. Some time you can fool people with some lies, but you cannot fool every one all the time with your minority appeasement Sickular concepts. I am not against the minority religions or their followers as they are my countrymen and once upon a time they were Hindus and culturally integrated with this holy land.
    The Congress under Sonia is the worst that India has got since independence. After ruling the country for more than 50 years, their slogan in LS 2009 is “Lifting the poorest of poor”. Even for elections in year 2500, the Congress slogan would remain “Aam Aadmi” and “Lifting the poorest of poor”. Fools like you will still listen to the same rhetorics and appreciate the Congress. Congress successfully alienated the “Aam Aadmi” from contesting and winning elections. It was always the powerful (by muscle) and the rich who have contested and won elections in this country and it is one of the acheivement of Congress. Compare China and Korea with India for the last 62 years and explain me the status of India.
    Growth, development and GDP are bye-products of good governance and Congress has spoiled this country with lack of vision. There were some good Prime Ministers like L.B.Shastri, PVN Rao and whatever improvement that you see are because of such patriotic people who were not from the dynasty.
    BJP holds the future for the country, unfortunately you may not like it.

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,former congress praiser,Future winner of Nobel peace award,masiha of muslim people,second M.k.Gandhi,President of HJSP,great philosofer,Mr.Deepakji,
    I have said Akhand ‘Hindu’ Rastra. not just Akhand Bharat.The word ‘HINDU’ have lot of importance.We need not worry about Muslims or Christian community.While making Akhand Hindu Rastra,we needn’t take any permission or any stamp.Aoge to sathme, Agar nahi aye aur rasteme aye to…. ….!
    Kabhi talwar chalake dekhi hain kya?chalake dekho,apni aukat khud samaz jaoge!RSS ke log talwar chalate hain agar aap bicycle chalaoge to wo bhi bahut hoga.DUSORON KO KAM SAMAZANA AB CHHOD DIJIYE.
    VHP is unable to build RAM TEMPLE because of psuedo secular and congress praiser peoples like you.We have lot of aims to achive not just RAM TEMPLE.but I assure you that one day we will martch towards our important goal i.e.Ram temple.AGAR ISS GOAL KE LIYE VILONCE HOGA TO BHI HAME PARVAH NAHI.
    Keep praising congress and secularism.First of teach secularism to your US president Barak Obama and intelligence buero CIA and FBI.Tell them to stop vilonce in IRAQ and AFGANISTAN.then try to teach us.
    Are ha! Wo Iraq me aap ke US militory exactly kya kiya tha apko malum hain na?HA HA HU HU!
    Jai shree Ram!LONG LIVE HINDUISM AND SANGH PARIVAR!HELL SECULARISM!VANDEY MATARM!

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    Chand Usman -The Ex-Muslim INDIA Says:

    Deepak :-

    COME UP WITH A PROOF OR STOP CLAIMING THAT RSS COMMITS VIOLENCE…..

    Gayatri Panchal was the alone survivor victim of the the Gujarat Hatyakand…..

    Deepak sitting there in USA and claiming about the things you don’t understand is useless…..

    You shouldn’t claim anything unless you have a proof …..

    I TRULEY AGREE WITH RAMJI THAT YOU SHOULD SAY GOODBYE TO HINDUISM….
    (This is not an order but an advice ….)

  67. 67
    Chand Usman -The Ex-Muslim INDIA Says:

    To Ramji and Dear Vivek:-

    Stop talking with Deepak unless he comes up with a PROOF for his claim of RSS committing violence….

    JAI SRI RAM !!
    JAI HIND !!

  68. 68
    Ram INDIA Says:

    Thanks Usmanji,

    I can atleast accept the Godhra lies being beleived by Muslims as they are brain washed to do so. It is ridiculous that well informed people like Deepak are pretending to sleep, even though he is not.

  69. 69
    Ramesh INDIA Says:

    Dear Ram,
    Does Deepak deserve the tag “Deepakji”? He goes back on his words- claims that he will not come back to post on this site- and comes back again and again with hate-filled messages with foul language.

  70. 70
    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Ramesh,Chand Usman(Hindu),Ram,
    Thanks for critisised to Deepak.I am just simple Swayamsevak of RSS.I am not realeted with any party like BJP.But half mad Deepak has crossed each and every person who were wrote in the side Hindutva by saying that, that person is Gulam of RSS and BJP.Thats why i decided to replied to each and every comments of Deepak.nothing more.
    Making Akhand Hindu Rastra is not so much easy i know it very well but we will try hard and hard.Ye bat Deepak ke sade huae bheje me kaise ghus jati?woh to secularism pe hi ada tha!
    In Hindustan,social condition is very much serious.Purvanchal(Assam,Manipur,Mizoram,Arunachal pradesh etc states)is 80% converted into either christian or Muslim religions.This christian Arch bishops has make force to hindus to get converted into christian religion.only two ways they are put before Hindus either convert into christian religion or ready to get physical and psychological harrassement especially in the rular area.Belive me it is not fake story.Many RSS swayamsevak were killed in the crual attacks of christian community.In kerala,over 170 swayamsevaks were killed or injured in the attack.This is true story.then tell me who will tolerate this harsh activities?RSS is not masiha of Hindu religion.We are trying to alert Hindus that future period will come with lot of social problems,past history of hindus was not good,so be alert.
    Yes,Ram temple is our aim.But today RSS do not want to disturb HINDUSTAN which is alreading suffering from problems like recession,drough,floods.Lekin Hinduon ko jagate rahana RSS ka kaam hain whether it is right or bad!
    YEH SAB BATE HALF MAD DEEPAK KE DIMAG SE BAHAR THI.Isliye main ne kabhi usko itna explaination nahi diya!
    But I think you people(Ramji,Usmanji,Rameshji)are sensible enough to understand this all explaination,thats why i explain my side with you people.
    Thanks for superb and right reply to Deepak.
    Jai Sree RAM!Long live HINDUISM and Hindustan!Hell psuedo secularism!VANDEY MATARAM!

  71. 71
    Deepak Says:

    It is funny to see bunch of you ganging up on me just like you have practiced ganging up on innocent women all across India..nevertheless..You guys gang up because u got nothing to else to do considering if you were really working hard for India, you wouldn’t waste your time arguing with me, but you all have been given strict SLAVE ORDERS from CHADDI losers to contradict TRUTH, FACTS AND REALITY…otherwise how will you abuse emotions of a common man?? no?? lol..anyways LETS DO THIS…!

    First come First basis:

    RAM BHAIYA:

    The Congress under Sonia is the worst that India has got since independence. Is that right?? then who asked Indians to bring congress back to power? Did anyone put a trishul knife to their throat to vote for them?? Are we indians so stupid that after 50 years of terrible conditions, we still want congress to rule us?? lol I think that answers this one!!
    Compare China and Korea with India for the last 62 years and explain me the status of India Yea? you want to compare china with India, well first of all, china doesn’t have the so called CORRUPTED MINDSET built from top to bottom of hierarchy, and you cannot blame congress for that, we all like that…look at our police…MOST CORRUPTED IN THE WORLD, LOOK AT OUR POLITICIANS, MOST CORRUPTED IN WORLD, CONGRESS, BJP, BJD SP, CPI all alike…at least Chinese leaders are thinking hard for their country… lastly Indians lack the competitiveness to exceed beyond expectation, we are lazy bums…
    Growth, development and GDP are bye-products of good governance and Congress has spoiled this country with lack of vision. For your rather neglected intellectual mind, the booming GDP we all are enjoying right now had some of its seeds sown in early 90s during rajiv gandhi’s tenure…you really want us to believe that BJP made india the fastest growing economy in 6 years? dude…you are like not even funny…but like STUPID!! JUST SHUT UP. BJP did some good work, it is for sure, I specially thank them for THE NUCLEAR TEST OF 98 because that send a message across border that we can hit ruthlessly too.. I guess congress leaders still lack that killer instinct! But these instincts should only be used at an obvious enemy like Pakistan, not minorities all over country!! Not all muslims want to blow themselves and kill hindus, if that was truth, just imagine what a 150 million of them can do to us!! There is no army that could even try to control that .

    BJP holds the future for the country, unfortunately you may not like it. No no, I luv it man, but can you please ask them to at least come back to power so we can give them the future of India?? lol When I come back, I will in detail and graphically explain the majority of BJP seats they win, and how they come from most poor, uneducated and economically backward parts of India. Even GUJARAT now has highest rate of SCHOOL DROPOUTS..and dude I AM NOT LYING ON THIS ONE!!

    VIVEK BHAIYAA:

    One think I must say you have learned is to be consistent!! You have consistently added JI at the end of my name, even with sarcasm, it does show consistency!! Which I appreciate, thanks. But now, lets get you BLOWING YOUR DEBATE UP IN 1 BILLION PIECES!

    I have said Akhand ‘Hindu’ Rastra. not just Akhand Bharat.The word ‘HINDU’ have lot of importance Oh Yea Sure…ammm I mean why not!1 But, for that, I guess you need HINDUS on your side? Most of us dun even like your face, not to mention I honestly think Mr. advani looks like not a leader, specially with his charlie Chaplin style mouthstache.. I am a true example of that!! I am hindu, and trust me, I am not letting you even getting close to AKHAND HINDU RASHTRA!! Word!!

    VHP is unable to build RAM TEMPLE because of psuedo secular and congress praiser peoples like you. Even If i do accept the title you guys have for us, the statement is absolutely right!! We won’t let that ever HAPPEN!! I thought RSS/VHP were not scared of anything?? I mean if i go by your word, you have a billion hindus in india?? you can’t even find enough of them to march ahead and build the RAM TEMPLE?? What happened to the HINDUTVA WAVE? Pressure nikal gaya lagta hai, hota hai haota hai, HAJMOLA KHAO sab thik ho jayega tunna!!

    First of teach secularism to your US president Barak Obama and intelligence buero CIA and FBI.Tell them to stop vilonce in IRAQ and AFGANISTAN.then try to teach us. Well I did vote for him, but that doesn’t make him my president, I had no other option, i mean the other guys was even dumber than RAHUL MAHAJAN, at least mahajan knows how to live his life!! First of all, America attacks other countries for one basic reason, POLITICAL AGENDA of dominating other countries for farther profitable goals..and why does RSS attack minorities:

    1. Political Agenda. Gaining Political Influence (Yay! similar to America)

    2. Loot and Rape. That is a big need since most of their followers are bhangis, adivasis, unemployed and religiously hopeless people. Loot and rape are big elements to pull people into their agenda.

    3. Narrow minded approach to Nationalism. This is what makes RSS a true terrorist organization, I mean the seeds of their thought process call for it, for example, instead of promoting Indian classical music, their approach would be to BAN the western music. Yea, you get the Idea!

    Yes,Ram temple is our aim.But today RSS do not want to disturb HINDUSTAN which is already suffering from problems like recession,drough,floods.Lekin Hinduon ko jagate rahana RSS ka kaam hain whether it is right or bad! >>> A Truly Nationalit organization would NEVER WANT TO DISTURN INDIA!! NOW NOW, NOT EVER!! Abe chamche, India suffers from droughts, floods and other natural calamities every single year!! KAB TAK WAIT KAREGI TERI VHP??? ABE NAMARDON, 17 SAAL HO GAYE BABRI KO GIRAYE HUE, 6 SAAL TUMHARI GOVT BHI THI CENTER MAIN, MANDIR BANANA TO DUR, TUM EK PATTHAR NAHI LE KE JA SAKE WAHA PE!! TUM BANAOGE MADIR??? DARPOK KAHIN KE…

    TUM SIRF INNOCENTS PE ATTACK KAR SAKTE HO, WO BHI IN GROUPS OF THOUSANDS, I WONDER WHY DOESN’T VHP DO PROTEST IN DELHI EVER?? BRO, IF YOU ARE IN TOUCH WITH YOUR OWNERS AT REGULAR BASIS, TELL EM A OPEN CHALLENGE TO TO DO ANY DRAMA IN STREETS OF DELHI, BE IT VALENTINES OR OTHER WISE…

    CHADU BHAIYA (The Real Traitor Of Hinduism):

    I TRULEY AGREE WITH RAMJI THAT YOU SHOULD SAY GOODBYE TO HINDUISM…. Oh yea?? There are at least 500 million hindus that support my side, are you going to ask them the same question?? You guys are pathetic, its like BJP is good good good, and congress is bad bad bad, I openly accept both sides of the coin, I know where congress is worst and where it has done good, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE NOT ACCEPTED SINGLE THING THAT BJP might go wrong on!! I mean how is this even possible man???? JUST THINK DUDE, IF BJP WAS SOOO GOOD AT TAKING CARE OF INDIA, WHY WOULD THEY GO OUT OF POWER? AND STILL NOT BEEN ABLE TO COME BACK?? THINK THINK THINK…and keep thinking till 2014, you have lot of time… :)

    Stop talking with Deepak unless he comes up with a PROOF for his claim of RSS committing violence…. Yo man this is not a democratic website, we are talking FASCISM here…so no one can take vote on who replies to who..SHUT UP!!

    RAMESHVA:

    Dear Ramesh,
    Does Deepak deserve the tag “Deepakji”?
    Thank youuuu SIR Jeeeee, I have been begging this slaves to please stop calling me Ji Ji Ji, I tld em hundred times, I am not your owner, these things look good to MODI nd CO. May be they will listen to you :)

    Anyways I will get back with more enlightenment for your helpless souls, but before I leave I want to apply a TIT FOR TAT game on Vivek, few days back he gave me a scenario of if I created a party called HJSP, what would happen in india, well let me tell you if ever and this is impt, IF EVER bjp came back to power again, what will happen to India:

    1. Freedom of speech, expression and love will be BANNED in india. Couples who try to hold hands or kiss in public will be arrested, the men will be thrashed by BJP workers while women will be taken aside and gang raped by Bajrang Dal members.

    2. Modi will be made next PM, he will immediately suspend the NUCLEAR DEAL and will promise India to provide electricity in every village by 3999 AD.

    3. It will be mandatory for all men under 35 to register with VHP samiti and serve 2 years for construction of RAM TEMPLE, any violators will be punished with severe penalties, they will be fines 20,000 rs each and of course, women of family will be gang raped by both VHP and Bajrangis..

    4. All minorities in the country will be made slaves, along with ramesh, rahul kedia, ram, vivek, chandu usman and brothers, they will work under sangh flag.

    5. India will host Olympics 2020, and opening ceremony will be done by SELF MADE PUNDITS of VHP, they will do some MANTRO UCCHARAN which obviously everyone will understand right away and then any other ceremonies will be allowed.

    6. Indian army commanders will be replaced by VHP commanders, they will lead armed forced holding knives disguised as trishuls against the pakis.

    7. BJP will amend the constitution, and bring it a act called BJP 356, which will make SATI, CASTE SYSTEM legal, other fundamental rights such as right to vote for women will be abolished with immediate affect.

    8. The national BUGDET will be decided in VHP Vidhaan sabha, most of the money will go to RAM MANDIR NIRMAAN, if any left will be given to RSS propagandist like TAGODIA AND MODI.

    9. All western books, musics and clothing will be BANNED in India, while RAHUL MAHAJAN and friends will be enjoying drugs in his bedroom.

    10. Finally, India’s name will be converted to HINDIA, as if HINDU religion is the sole property of RSS. JO ye kahenge wahi hinduism hoga, ye jisko chahe Hindu religion se nikkal sakte hain!!

    GET THE IDEA OF INDIA UNDER BJP?!?1? Yea Enjoy your popcorn until I blast the microwave next time.

    Once Driven, Forever Democracy.

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    Moron SWITZERLAND Says:

    First they came for Punjabi / Sindhi / Bangladeshi non-Muslims

    But I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Punjabi / Sindhi / Bangladeshi non-Muslim

    Then they came for the Kashmiri non-Muslims
    And I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Kashmiri non-Muslim

    Then they came for the Jammu / Ladakhi non-Muslims
    And I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Jammu / Ladakhi non-Muslim

    Then they came for the Assamese non-Muslims
    And I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Assamese non-Muslim

    Then they came for the West Bengali non-Muslims
    And I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a West Bengali non-Muslim

    Then they came for the Nepali non-Muslims
    And I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Nepali non-Muslim

    Then they came for me,
    And there was no one left to speak out for me.

  73. 73
    Ram AUSTRALIA Says:

    Deepak, I am not interested to score a point over you and this country is supreme for me than anything else.

    1. All your pointwise replies are superficial and I think you keep your conscience switched off to score a point.
    2. The Congress under Sonia is the worst that India has got since independence. Is that right?? then who asked Indians to bring congress back to power? Did anyone put a trishul knife to their throat to vote for them?? Are we indians so stupid that after 50 years of terrible conditions, we still want congress to rule us?? lol I think that answers this one!! –
    Congress (UPA) has won because of people like you preaching against the RSS / BJP without understanding their Nationalism. Congress has demonized the BJP with fabricated stories using their bought out media and the plain minded people fell to their trick. Example 1 : Mangalore Pub incident – done by anti-BJP Mutthalik to defame the government. The Congresssi media shouted loudly with this all over India. Inside Karnataka, people know what happened and the BJP was not affected, but the rest of Sickular Indians thought that the BJP is stopping people to go to Pubs.
    3. In Tamilnadu, Cong and DMK paid Vijayakanth money in crores to draw the anti-incumbent vote and thus split opposition vote. I think you support such High morality of Sonia.
    4. In Andhra, they did the same trick using Praja Rajyam and in Maharashtra, they used Raj Thackerray.
    5. Of course there was also the magic of Naveen Chawla and whole of India knows how Mr.P.Chidambaram after having declared looser was changed to “Winner”. You sickularists always contest that People choose wrong people and they are to be blamed, especially when Modi repeatedly gets elected in Gujarat. Now you are using the same argument to suit you that people have made Congress the choice and they are not forced with Trishul on their throat.
    6. BJP is in existence from 1980 and within 29 years, they could rule 8 states (with alliances) and win 116 seats. Compared to that, Congress inherited an existing party and got all the favour from the freedom movement. It is like Rajiv Gandhi getting elected as PM due to Indira Gandhi’s assassination. If you see the whole history, you will understand that Congress deteriorated from where it was and BJP is steadily progressing upwards.
    7. Tell me what are the great achievements of UPA which could be seen apparently in the period between 2004 to 2009. Don’t fool yourself by saying Nuclear deal as it is a success for George Bush and not for Sonia.
    8. Killing judiciary is one of the worst things that happened to India in the Sonia regime. Raja can do a multi-crore scam, but can escape unnoticed and the honest PM will still remain himself honest without questioning him. All CBI cases were handled in the way Congress likes it. CBI became “Congress Bureau of Investigation”. When people start loosing faith on Judiciary, then what else remains in this country.
    9. Navin Chawla elected as EC, when he is known to be a Congress sympathizer and beneficiary.
    10. Missionary activities were at the peak and conversion in Kurnool was going at 800 persons a day. Don’t you see a Sonia-Missionarie-YSR nexus here? YSR said that why is this Lord Balaji enjoying the pride of 7 hills whereas he should have only 2 hills. He appointed worst non-faith persons at the helm of TTD and tried his best to spoil the sanctity of Tirumala. But God still rules the world from Tirumala and he never allows supremacy for the conspirators.
    11. NREGA scheme – It made people lazy. Will you go to toil hard in an agricultural farm land to earn Rs.50, when you can get Rs.90 due to NREGA without a need to work an hour also.? This is how you have spoiled agriculture. Many rural people doing agriculture as main business choose to settle down in urban areas as they are not getting people to work in their farm lands, that too in the most populous country. If you want evidence, I will send e-mails of affected people. When you give free some money, automatically people will vote for you. I am sure you know how votes are being bought by your UPA ally. Just google “Thirumangalam buy elections” to know more details.

    Compare China and Korea with India for the last 62 years and explain me the status of India Yea? you want to compare china with India, well first of all, china doesn’t have the so called CORRUPTED MINDSET built from top to bottom of hierarchy, and you cannot blame congress for that, we all like that…look at our police…MOST CORRUPTED IN THE WORLD, LOOK AT OUR POLITICIANS, MOST CORRUPTED IN WORLD, CONGRESS, BJP, BJD SP, CPI all alike…at least Chinese leaders are thinking hard for their country… lastly Indians lack the competitiveness to exceed beyond expectation, we are lazy bums, we only do things when we get kicked in our ass… –
    “All parties are corrupt and Indians have corrupted mindset”. This shows your helpless state of mind. If India had continued to patronize the Sanatana Dharma, it would not be in this pathetic state. You Sickularists wish to make India very westernized and try to attach people towards material wishes and the result is this pathetic state. Bihar was the worst governed state and it was lawless under Laloo. Has things not changed under Nitish and the BJP ? If a country is lawless and people are corrupted, then the Politicians have to make a sincere attempt to rectify the situation than merely accusing it generally. If you say all parties are most corrupted, then how will a democratic state be governed ? While you watch an India-Australia cricket match, won’t you take one of the two sides as yours or will you watch it without any bias to the sides ? Will you say that whichever team plays well should win the game? You have to take one side as yours and if you are patriotic, you will choose India even if it is the weaker of the two sides. When everyone seems to be corrupted, then you have to choose one of the party that you have not seen enough. I am patriotic and want the country to be governed by people who love this country more than themselves and that is the reason to choose BJP. Visit http://www.lkadvani.in if you have a open mind and then take your decision. For your information, the BJP has never ruled India in the centre and you might have seen some glimpses of their abilities during the NDA government. But that is not entirely BJP’s form of governance.
    Just drop your prejudice that the BJP will go against all Muslims and Christians when it comes to power and try to learn more about the party and take judgement. The foreign funded Jihadi activity and the cunning missionaries activity are definitely to be checked and I am sure you will be on my side.
    Do not watch too much of Barkha Dutt, Sagarika, Rajdeep, Prannoy, Arnab Goswami and Shekhar Gupta and let them not influence on your conscience.

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Deepakji(masiha of Muslim people,great philosofer,so and so)
    attacked on Afganistan and Irap was the political agenda of USA?To Iraq me Muslim ladkiyon par rape karna aur Mardon ke sath gay jaisa bartav karna ye bhi American Militory ka POLITICAL AGENDA tha kya?HA HA HA!
    Your last comment was so nice.But i want to correct one thing that if we comes into power,then we will do gang rape on other’s religion’s girls not Hindus!I have already told you that i have not get frustreted or harm by your dirty launguage. No and never!I Know your capability very well.
    Tumko kisne kaha ke Hindustani log RSS ko hate karte hain?BBC is accept that RSS is biggest selfsevice organisation(swayam sevi sanstha)in the whole.and Mr.HJSP,For your kind information,in your USA,one sinator(Democrotic party) of American sinet is related with Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh(HSS,another name of RSS in the Foriegn countries).so now go,go find out that name of sinator and tell your US sinet to terminate the membership of that sinetor.In US,many Hindu people are related with HSS.HI HI HI!
    Abe,Pahale USA me HSS ko ban karke dikha phir hame honshiyari dikhana samzana!tell me tum kya jante ho RSS ke bareme?nothing.you are claimed that RSS is terrorist organisation then tell me who builded small-big hospitals in the Adivasi sector where,due to fear of Naxalist,no one governtment officer ready to dare to complete Adivasi welfare projects,who builded blood banks,Goshalas,Anathashrama in the Adivasi sector?the answer is Sangh Parivar.Mr HJSP agar kisine accha kaam kiya hain to accha kahane ki adat dalo.Islamic terrorist organisation are do nothing for Muslim people.Can you heard that AL QUIDA and L-E-Taiba are building hospitals or welfare programme?NO.because they just want to Pan Islamism in the whole world.
    If you have some dare then come to Hindustan and do some work in the poor Adivasi sector where you have not get guareentee that you will get even single cup of Tea in whole day.Itna easy nahi hota work karna.
    JAI SHREE RAM!SECULARISM KA NAASH HO!

  75. 75
    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Deepakji(masiha of Muslim people,great philosofer,so and so)
    Apko jo next week me explosion karna hain na to jarur karo.No one have interest in your non sence and third class comments atleast for those who have enough sence.JO CONGRESS PICHALE 50 YEARS ME KUCH NAHI UKHAD SAKI TO TUM TO RSS KE LIYE SIRF EK MACHHAR HO.
    Akal aukat se jyada hoti hain tab tumhare jaise log bina proof ke apne jaban ka kachreka dibba khulato khulahi rakhte hain.GUTNE SE SOCHNA BAND KARO!
    Jai Shree RAM!hell secularism!LONG LIVE HINDUSTAN AND HINDUISM!

  76. 76
    Deepak Says:

    Doodes, now I really need to go, but seriously

    RAM , if you have no interest scoring points over me, you wouldn’t bother typing. YOU ARE SOUTH INDIAN TAMIL, a supporter of LTTE who is just pissed off that Congress supported the fall of LTTE . Simple, I can see that in your eyes.

    You shameful freak, out all your debates, I did get shocked on how you hate the NREGA scheme. You moron, similar programs run in US for poor and unemployed people. Tis is enough proof that YOU JUST HATE CONGRESS BECAUSE YOU ARE SLAVE OF BJP, not any other point. So keep barking, if you have any balls, then come into POWER, or shut up ok.

    NUCLEAR DEAL WAS SUCCESS FOR BUSH ONLY?? BJP was the biggest oppose of the deal within INDIA, Congress put all you idiots to silence and went ahead with their deal, no one could take them out of POWER, this is what their success is.

    And you fool, BJP came in existence in 1980, but Jan Sangh, its original source was in politics sicne in 1951. So show the real stats and then talk, BJP is as old as India is, they only get seats because of Hinduism issue, nothing else

    VIVEK:

    Chup kar chamche, MANDIR BANAO, MANDIR. HIMMAT HAI TO KUCH KARKE DIKHAO, ABE TUM HINDU AURTON KA BHI RAPE KARTE HO AUR MINORTIES KA BHI, SABKO PATA HAI. TUME APNI BHEN KO BHI RAPE KARNA ACCHA LAGTA HOGA, YE BHI MUJHE PATA HAI.

    BAKWAAAS BAND KAR, AUR KARMA KAR, CHAL CHAL GULAMI KAR AUR MANDIR KE LIYE CHANDA IKKATTHA KAR. 50 SAAL SE HO NA INDIAN MAIN?? ADIVASIYON KE LIYE HOSPITAL BANAYE HAI TUMNE?? UNHI HOSPITALS MAIN ADIVASI LADKIYON KA RAPE BHI KARTE HO, AUR SAMNE SRI RAM KI MURTI LAGATE HO.

    BETA DUM HAI TO MANDIR BANA, BHONK MAT JYADA, 50 SAAL KE TERI RSS SE KUCH NAHI HUA TO AB KYA KAROGE?? AKHAND HINDU RASHTA BANAYEGA TU?? ABE MUSLIMS ARE CLOSE TO 15%, CHRISTIANS ARE 3%, SIKHS ARE 2%, OPEN YOUR EYES. The only Rashtra we will have is a United India for all, and you guys will be the history.

    CHAL CHAL, MANDIR BANA MANDIR…HAHA!!

  77. 77
    Ram INDIA Says:

    Deepak,
    I think you were in a hurry and did not read my complete post. I have requested you to visit http://www.lkadvani.in before you reply me next time. I give below a precise link :

    http://www.lkadvani.in/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6607&p=0

    You have jumped to wrong conclusion that I am a LTTE supporter, of course you were right that I am South Indian Tamil. I read writings of great patriots like Swami Vivekananda V.Sundaram Ex-IAS, B.R.Haran, Dr.Babu Suseelan, Cho-Ramaswamy, agree somewhat to Dr.Subramanian Swamy, Deendayal Upadhyaya, Dr.Shyama Prasad Mukherjee, T.R.Jawahar and I consider these people as real intellectuals who know the value of India and it’s original civilisation. They stand undistorted even after reading many times the McCaulay school of thoughts, the JNU nonsense, the Marxist rubbish, EVR Periyar’s (ir)rationalism, Prannoy Roys, Barkha Dutts, Sagarikas, Rajdeeps, Arnab Goswamis etc.
    Before you reply me next time, read some of these or any of these authors and you can also read Shri.Mohan Bhagawat’s writings.
    I am not illiterate, half-baked or westernised. I am nearing my 40s and have come from the bottom of the society and a practising design expert in engineering.
    Please come to neutral mind before criticising BJP/RSS and try to know what they are.
    Repeatedly, you are writing BJP to come to Power to prove ourselves. Please understand the amount of nationalism that drives me in patiently writing to convince one Sickularist like you and as you said some millions are left with in India. So, for the BJP, it is a long way to go. Winning and loosing are part of the game and Leaders or individuals are not of importance as the emphasis is just Righteousness and prosperity of my country.

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    Ram INDIA Says:

    I hate the LTTE and wanted them to be finished and thankfully God satisfied my wish. The LTTE was originally funded and grown up none other than your Congress queen Indira gandhi and today, you hate the same LTTE.
    The LTTE might have some good intentions in the beginning and later on it has become a drug and wepaon smuggling company. Since the dawn of year 2000, the leadership of LTTE came under the control and influence of Christian missionaries who wanted to exploit the situation of Sri Lankan Tamils to propagate Christianity. Similar to YSR reddy silencing the “Samuel” in his YSR, the Missionaries wore the blanket of sympathy towards Tamils and run their mission of soul harvesting among the gullible suffering Tamils in Sri Lanka and of course had some success in their attempt. Praphakaran named his son as “Soosai” and the main strategist of LTTE was Anton Balasingam. LTTE succesfully killed all other Sri Lankan Tamil leaders who did not convert to Christianity.
    I am happy that LTTE was crushed.

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    Ram INDIA Says:

    On the quick and wrong judgement that I am pro-LTTE, you did not read my post “Ram on October 9th, 2009 2:22 am” properly. You might be in a hurry also. All government schemes like NREGA are good in paper and may be working very well in the USA, but your (Cong) miserable governance made it harmfull to the society. It is even now killing agriculture and moving people from Rural to urban areas. Your UPA ally DMK is giving TV sets free, gives rice at Rs.1/kg. (they could have given it free), loots money from poor families by selling liquor through government and bribing voters for stealing votes. NREGA, you may be thinking is a great scheme (and in paper, it may be true), but Cong. saw it only as a easy way to bribe large number of people for stealing votes.

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,great philosofer,Maha Guru,President of HJSP,so and so,Mr.Deepakji,
    kyu ji?Maine sirf apki AUKAT nikali to itna gussa hua then tell me how many time you used harsh word in your last few comments against Rameshji,Ramji,Usmanji and me?the words like ‘SALE’,'BIKHARI’,'GADHE’,'LOOSERS’,'GULAM’,'IDIOTS’,'STUPIDS’ etc can hearts to someone like Ramji,Usmanji,Rameshji.They may be more educated than you.For me,I don’t feel sad or nervous by reading your ‘excellent’(?) launguage.Because i know your capacity and capability.I can also step down from my launguage,i can also use worst launguage but i don’t want to waste my memory on it.Think on it agar kuch dimag me BRAIN nam ki chij hain to!Nahi hain to Diwali hi hain!
    KARM KARO.HA HA HA!Ap ek mazedar admi hain!you are sitting in USA,and teaching me karma?I’m working for RSS as a simple Swayamsevak.Every day i attend SHAKHA.At every Hindu festival i used to visit Anathashrama with other swayamsevaks atleast for 7 to 8 hours.We plays many sports games with little children.Festival har Hindu manata hain lekin ye Anath children ke sath kaun manata hoga?We distribute fruits,sweets among them.Agar Sunday ko kuch kaam nahi hota tab ham Adivasi sector me jate hain.We try to understand the problems of poor Adivasi.I know it is not just enough.but rather than taking of a glass of BEER in pubs ,it is very useful.get it?
    I think you should check your head from mental hospital.Y our last comment is showing that you have nothing left to defend your so called secularism and frustration is coming out from your vulgar launguage.Aap VHP ko Delhi me vilonce karke dikhane ko kahate hain na to main apko challenge karta hoon ke yeh apna secularism Gujarat me Mr.Narendraji Modi ke samne age badhao.Mr.HJSP,Apki so called secularist Teesta Setalwad RSS ka kuch nahi bigad payi to tum US me baith ke hame Hindustan se bahar karoge?HI HI HI!I think your wake up from half sleep.complete it.
    Are ha!I am waiting for your so called Microwave!HA HA HA!
    Jai Sree RAM!

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Maha Guru,masiha of Muslim people,Nobel peace award winner in future etc,Mr.Deepakji,
    How many time you have used words like ‘Gang rape’,'rape on innocent women’,'Adivasiy ladkiyon pe rape’,and last’Apne bhen pe bhi rape karna acha lagega’etc in your last few comments?Then tell me who are currupt minded?me or you?are physicaly unsatisfied with your girlfriend in the USA?No one in his comments,used the word ‘rape’ consistently.Even i am also use word ‘rape’ to just replied to you.someone like psycho patient (like you)can use this word consistently.I think you are not secular,you are just ‘sexular’!HA, HA,HA!
    I heard that your boss US President Barak Obama is won the Nobel peace award.Good.even without working for peace if someone can get Nobel award then I think this is the ‘very cheap’ ever I saw.Muze laga ye Apko milega lekin kya kare kaliyug hain,Acche,good minded logon ki parvah kisko hain!AFSOS!I hope you will acheive this award at next year.keep hoping!HA,HA,HA!
    At last but not least,
    To,PRABHU SHREE KRISHNA,
    Please forgive Deepakji,he don’t know itself what are he writting and what are he proving!Ye to Apke famouse ‘KARMA YOG’ se puri tarah se ANBHIDNYA hain!kyonki USA me ‘karma’ ka matlab wo log dusrahi lete hain!karma karna!HA,HA,HI,HI!
    KARMANEV ADHI KARASTE MAM FALESHU KADACHANA!
    JAI PRABHU KRISHNA!JAI SHREE RAM!HELL SECULARISM!

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    Deepak Says:

    Hi Guysssss!!1 My flight is tomorrow!! So wish me luck!! I know some of you might be praying my plane crashes, , that’s awesome, I just hope if it does it lands on MODI’S house, KAM SE KAM APNE SAATH DHARTI KE EK BHOJ KO TO LE KE JAUN…. anyways….enjoy your slavery and keep up the spirit… so what if the nation kept you out of power, you guys always have a chance every five years…Yay!!

    Well Vivek, I know you are just filled with HATRED FOR MUSLIMS..YOU THINK ALL OF THEM ARE OUR ENEMIES. WELL IN THAT CASE, WHY DON’T YOU FIRST KILL A. P. J. ABDUL KALAM?? He is also enemy of India?? right? He is a muslim. Go Kill HIM!!
    Yes, Al-qeuda is only there to kill people, so is LET, but LET’s social face Jamaat Ud Dawa or whatever did a lot of muslims in Pakistan, even during earthquakes, so DOES THAT MAKE THEM A SOCIAL ORGANIZATION?? SIMILARLY, RSS ONE ONE HAND BUILDS HOSPITALS, AND ON THE HAND PUTS DEAD BODIES IN THOSE HOSPITALS THROUGH VHP AND OTHERS…

    THEY ARE TERRORIST TOO!

    And RAM, tell me something, is propaganda against BJP so strong that people of India cannot make judgment of ground realities?? Don’t they know congress is looting them? IF WHAT YOU SAID WAS TRUE, BJP WOULD HAVE BEEN CHOSEN IN ELECTIONS. THEY LOST BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DESIRED AT NATIONAL LEVEL, IT IS A COMMUNAL PARTY, WHOSE EXISTENCE IS BASED ON RIOTS, KILLINGS AND RAM MANDIR DRAMA.

    IF IT IS ANY OTHER WAY, THEN WIN IN CENTER AND THEN TALK, OTHERWISE SHUT UP, YOU HAVE NO CREDITS TO BLAME CONGRESS FOR ANYTHING. MAKING BLAMES AND CALLING CONGRESS LOOTERS IS EASY, THE TRUTH IS DIFFERENT, BECAUSE PEOPLE CHOSE THEM TO POWER, AND YOU DENYING THEM AS THE GOVT MAKES YOU ANTI-INDIA. SO SHUT UP!!

    Vivek, I in no sense got aggravated by your comments, I accept to get hit when I drive fast, I don’t mind what you say. BUT YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON BUILDING THE TEMPLE, I NEED TO SEE SOME PROGRESS PLEASE, BY THE TIME I COME BACK, AT LEAST PUT ONE STONE ON THE BASE OF SO CALLED MYTHOLOGICAL RAM BIRTHPLACE…OK??

    Tumhara kaam hai mandir banana, tum mandir banao, Congress desh sambhalegi, tum apna mandir banao, ghantiyaan bajao, magar jaldi banana warna Ramji ki murti ka paint utara jayega… ok?? Chalo Chalo, abhi chanda bhi ikattha karna hai aapko…Good luck!

    OK GUYS, JATE HUE KYA FIGHT KARNI…I LOVE YOU GUYS…I LOVE BJP TOO!! I LOVE MODI TO IN FACT, I HOPE HE IS CAPABLE OF ANSWERING HIS GRANDCHILDREN ( HE IS MARRIED, BELIEVE IT OR NOT) THEN WHY HIS NAME FOREVER REMAINS IN HISTORY WITH BLOOD OF THOUSANDS ON HIS CLOTHES. But anyways, I think he is a great guy, he did the right thing in 2002, by not saving those people, I mean what else use they were to us? the last thing we need is more people in india, chalo accha hai, few thousand got less, karte karte by 5099999 AD, we will be a pure hindu rashta. JAI SRI RAM .

    BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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    Chand Usman - The Ex-Muslim INDIA Says:

    Deepak:-

    Your claims are fake !!

    IF NOT GIVE US PROOF !!

    BJP LOST IN THE ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE MUSLIMS VOTES !!

    Deepak you slave pseudo-secularism……

    BE A REAL SECULARIST…..

    What did Congress do on Wining the election ??

    OH, OH !!

    CONGRESS DID ONE THING AFTER WINING THE ELECTION , IT INCREASED THE HARDSHIPS OF THE PEOPLE !!

    Deepak you said ” RSS ke chaddi hanuman ” in your comment dated October 7th, 2009 11:04 am , eh ??

    Now take this ….

    ABE TUM PSEUDO-SECULARIST (CONGRESS) LOG JO KURTA PAYJAMA PEHENTE HO NA VO BHARAT KI AAM JANTA KE BHAROSE PE !!

    ABE ATLEAST HUM JANTA KE BHAROSE PE TO HAMARI CHADDI NAHI BANA RAHE !!

    TUMAHRE SUKH-SHANTI KE LIYE TUM JANTA KI SUKH-SHANTI CHIN RAHE HO !!

    UNKE DO WAQT KA KHANA KHANE KE PAISE TO NAHI REHENE DETE TUM CONGRESS WALE ….

    YEAH BUT ONE MUST AGREE CONGRESS HAS MANAGED TO INCREASE RECESSION , INCREASE CORRUPTION , INCREASE INJUSTICE , INCREASE HARDSHIPS OF THE PEOPLE , INCREASE POVERTY ETC. (EK HO TO BATAAU)

    HAAN BUT CONGRESS HAS MANAGED TO DECREASE ECONOMIC STRENGTH OF INDIA , DECREASE STANDARD OF LIVING OF PEOPLE (DUE TO RECESSION ) ETC. (EK HO TO BATAAU)

    ABE CONGRESS ELECTION KE PEHELE IMPROVEMENT KA VAADA KARTI HAIN AUR ELECTION KE BAD MEIN BHI VAADA HI KARTI HAIN….LOGON KA KAAM KABHI NAHI KARTI !!

    HAAN LEKIN CONGRESS EK KAAM ZARUR KARTI HAIN ….LOGO KO KAAM KARNE KA VAADA …..YE KAAM KAISE KARTE HAIN YE KOYI CONGRESS SE SIKHE….

    CONGRESS HAS CALIBUR FOR DOING ONLY ONE THING ARRANGE PRACHAR SABHA !!

    CONGRESS KO BAS EK BAAT THIK SE AATI HAIN ,THAT IS , BAAT BIGHADNI ……

    CONGRESS KO GOVERNMENT CHAHIYE LEKIN GOVERNMENT KI RESPONSIBILITIES NAHI !!

    ABE CONGRESS KE PAJAMA CHHAAP LOGO KO(PSEUDO-SECULARIST) DESH CHALANA NAHI AATAA ….. AATI BAS EK BAAT HAIN DUSRON KO GALIYA MARNA ….

    TO RSS/BJP KO GALIYA MARNE SE PEHELE KHUD KI GALTIYA SUDHAR LENA….

    DUDE, CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME !!

    JAI SRI RAM !!
    JAI HIND !!

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    Vivek UNITED STATES Says:

    To,Deepakji(future winner of nobel peace prize,and so on),
    Ham koun hote hain apka plain crashed hone ki tamanna karnewale!justice to Uparwala Bhagwan hi karta hain!Psuedo secularist like you required to us.because at least after some years we can show to our next generation the real enemy of ‘HINDUSTAN’,'HINDUISM’ AND ‘AKHAND HINDU RASHTRA’.
    We need not take permission or suggestion from you to build Ram Temple.When situation will permits that time we will march toward making of Ram temple.CHANDA IKATHA KARNEKI MUZE JARURAT NAHI,JAB RAM TEMPLE KI NIV RAKHI JAYEGI TAB KARODO HINDU LOG APNE AP CHANDA DENGE!
    Apne kya kaha tha?ha yad aya! KARMA KARNA!ha ha ha!karma ka aur apka koyi sambandh hain kya?HA HA HA!
    Your last comments was timepass comment! Keep it up!aur agale week me kab anewale ho? Ate waqt pilot ko plain thik tarhase land karne ko kaho,nahi to…SHUSH….TUFS! Samaz gaye?
    Aur wo tum so called microwave kab create karoge?i am counting a days. Ha Ha Ha!
    Jai SriRam!Vandey Mataram!

  85. 85
    dolly bhatia INDIA Says:

    in ahemdabad near the airport side area the road has not been built yet. why? municipal cooperation is taking so much time to build the road? they had break the road since 1 yr. but still the road has not been built. see we are facing problems,when vechiles are moving on that road then there is lot of dust is created in the atmosphere. so please repair this road as soon as possible.

  86. 86
    another hindu INDIA Says:

    by hindu i mean somebody who belongs to hindustan
    @deepak

    NAREGA like policies are successful in US because US govt. can afford for such peoples there, but in India it might not be the case. That way we should just copy
    USA.

    For the matter of fact BJP didn’t opposed the nuclear deal, it wanted few refinements. BJP was the one who took courage for nuclear tests without letting it open even to US before the event.

    And I think there is no need to point you out anything because you are an idiot judging on the language you used afterwards.

    @everybody
    So what you people think about Gujrat riots, there are other facts as well which implies that Modi could have stopped such a big massacre.

    Still I love Modi!!!

  87. 87
    Liyakat INDIA Says:

    The Gujarat police saved as many as 2,500 Muslims in Sanjeli, a town in North Gujarat, 5,000 Muslims in Bodeli, in Vadodara and about 10,000 Muslims in Viramgam. A total of about 24,000 Muslims were saved in the first three days alone. Police officials themselves suffered injuries in trying to save the Muslims, as reported by the weekly India Today.
    so what does that mean i am also one of them it was just my bad time and ofcourse of my country that cuses a fight between us and that has solved now.

  88. 88
    Narendra Modi said teach Muslims a lesson: IPS officer Says:

    [...] said teach Muslims a lesson: IPS officer He said all those and yet did the exact opposite ? Myth 8: The Gujarat government was involved in the riots | Gujarat Riots: The True Story Myth 15: Narendra Modi gave free hand to rioters for 3 days | Gujarat Riots: The True Story [...]

  89. 89
    RT these facts on a day #modi10years and #top10Lies are trending together « Nationalist News Network UNITED STATES Says:

    [...]  5: The Gujarat government was involved in the riots [...]

  90. 90
    Bharat Mera Desh Hai INDIA Says:

    Deepak::

    You are awesome man….
    You are really a man who just want india to get developed…

    I want to just tell people that just go outside and look at muslims..
    they are really very poor….
    you know what if you are going to be good with them then definately they will reply with same and this is vice versa…

    if any indian wants to get india developed or super power then they should have to support development of muslim people living here….

    this what so called rss is just breaking india..
    DHARM NIRPEKSHATA is a gift given to us by GREAT BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR and also SHIVAJI MAHARAJ… So please dont break trust and faith in each other…

    Live with each other happily and respect each other..

  91. 91
    International Dynamic Peace Foundation INDIA Says:

    India is country of all human beings, not only Muslim’s, Not only Hindus, Not Only Christian’s, not only any’s but land of humanity. People from foreign country come to visit India for Inner Peace and we are speaking against each other why dear brother. Learn to love human being. Bharat tumhara nahi bharat Hamsabka hai. Hindu Muslim Sikh Isayi sabka aik hi Desh hai Jiska naam Bharat hai. Isliye aik dosre se Prem karna sikho. God Bless you.

  92. 92
    dpsoni INDIA Says:

    Hindus r target of so called pseudo seculars, redial Muslims, vote bank hungry politicians, so called secular media and vocal Hindus not having any trust or faith for Hindu civilization (convent educated and so called secular education institutions studied people).
    the various myth created by so called historians one like Aryan came from middle east, hindu civilization was the civilization of serpent and its keeper and monkies ,the civilization came only after christanity came into existence and many others.
    this all has created a emptyness in Hindus mind they felt that each attack over Hindus is the well or-chested conspiracy to attack over their age old civilization and belief and out burst of such feelings many times translated into action very difficult to control.
    Godhara cranage and incidence there after is one such reflection and no authorities haver capacity to control it not even god.

  93. 93
    Kolla Gangadhar Says:

    2002 Guajrat communal riots facts and figures mentioned in your website may be true or may not be true and culprits of guajrat riots were prosecuted by the Government. They were convicted as per the news paper reports by the trial court. Their appeal is pending in the High court it is sub judice to comment untill convicts appeals is decided by the supreme court till such time no prudent man would comment and I would like to comment. Comments on guajrat riots will Precipitate will cause damage to the Bharaitya Janata party, its Prime Minister, Shri. Narendra Modi ji.

  94. 94
    JHK UNITED STATES Says:

    shame on this site. u have the audacity to defend muslim killings?. by the way i am not a muslim. u r telling the count of those killed was not 2000 but 1000, does it make the killings less monstrous? even if one human irrespective of religion to which he belongs gets murdered due to communal forces and the country cannot reach a significant closure by punishing those people than shame on that country ,shame on its judiciary. shame on the people living in it who belong to a religion, but dont have humanity. try to be humans first religious later. shame on this site.

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