Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Tehelka lies

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This book was written in May 2007- six months before weekly Tehelka broadcast a sting operation. But after the sting operation of Tehelka, it has become necessary to write about it, since it has caused immense resentment among innocent Muslims, both in India and abroad.

The website www.rediff.com reported on 25 October 2007-

Gujarat riots a genocide; Modi sanctioned it: Tehelka

Onkar Singh in New Delhi


Investigative weekly Tehelka on Thursday claimed to have unraveled the truth behind the 2002
Gujarat riots.Tehelka claimed it had ‘irrefutable’ evidence that the killings of Muslims post-Godhra train carnage in Gujarat was ‘not a spontaneous swell of anger but a genocide’ planned and executed by top functionaries of the Sangh Parivar and state authorities ‘with the sanction’ of Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

Addressing a press conference in New Delhi, Tehelka Editor-in-Chief Tarun Tejpal claimed that the magazine had carried out a sting operation over the last six months by talking to a number of Sangh Parivar leaders, including Godhra BJP MLA Haresh Bhatt, Shiv Sena leader Babu Bajrangi, who was earlier in the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, and VHP leaders Anil Patel and Dhawal Jayanti Patel, to bring out the truth.


“We have evidence that bombs were being made in the VHP office premises,” Harinder Baweja, Editor (Investigations), told rediff.com.
“In Tehelka’s ground breaking investigations, for the first time, hear the truth of the genocidal killings from the men who actually did it. In shocking disclosures, Chief Minister Narendra Modi came and patted the back of criminals, and told them that they had done a good job,” Baweja said.
The Bharatiya Janata Party has reacted sharply to the magazine’s report stating that Tehelka was acting as CIA (Congress Investigating Agency) and it was a collusive sting, which could hardly be called investigative journalism.

Party spokesman Prakash Javedekar said the ‘dirty tricks department’ of the Congress was at work again in view of the assembly elections in Gujarat.

None of the leaders caught on camera in the expose was available for comments, except Gujarat VHP leader Dhawal Jayanti Patel who said Bajrangi had not talked to him during the riots and that he had not seen the sting operation.


Bhatt was purportedly caught on tape saying he was present in a meeting in which Modi allegedly gave him three days time ‘to do whatever they wanted.’”After three days, he (Modi) asked to stop and everything came to a halt,” Bhatt said, adding that the chief minister thanked them after the Naroda Patiya massacre.

The magazine claimed that Dhawal Jayanti Patel told its undercover reporter that the VHP activists made lots of bombs in a factory owned by him. A BJP MLA was shown as saying they even made rocket launchers, which were used in the pogrom.


It also claimed that it has exposed ‘a trail of lies and coercions’ that establishes the fire in coach S-6 of the Sabarmati Express in Godhra on February 27, 2002 was a case of spontaneous mob fury and not a pre-meditated conspiracy as stated by the Gujarat government.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/25godhra.htm

Tarun Tejpal, editor of the weekly Tehelka wrote in Tehelka Magazine, Vol 4, Issue 44, Dated Nov 17, 2007-

“…This time — with our investigation into the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 — the conspiracy-seekers scaled new heights. While the BJP attacked us for working for the Congress, the Congress spread the word that we were working for the BJP! Clearly we were doing something right. In all this the battle for the idea of India was left to Laloo Yadav, Mayawati and the Left. The Congress one presumes knows the phrase — since its forebears literally coined it — but they can’t anymore seem to remember what it means.


It’s extraordinary that more than a week after the
Gujarat massacre exposé, the prime minister and the home minister had not made a single statement. For the first time in the history of journalism, mass murderers were on camera telling us how they killed, why they killed, and with whose permission they did it. Nor were these just petty criminals; these were fanatics, ideologically driven, working the most dangerous faultline of the subcontinent, revealing the truth of a perilous rupture fully capable of tearing this country apart. (NOTE: Tarun Tejpal knows very well that these so-called criminals could well have been indulging in empty boasts i.e. boastful lies and may not have done anything they claimed to have done on camera, but he is adding spice. And if it does not occur to him that these people could have been indulging in empty lies, then he is not fit to be a journalist). But that was clearly not enough for the good man of Race Course Road. Had the CII burped loudly, the PMO would have issued a clarification. Had they then organised a seminar on the untimely burp, the prime minister would have addressed it.


It may be unfair to pillory the prime minister, a man given responsibility without power, the honest man sitting atop a dishonest hillock. Let us then look at the grand strategists of the Congress who cannot win an election themselves but know the secret of winning elections for the many. On their perverse abacus, exposing Modi’s hand in bestial murders and rapes was designed to convince the Gujarati Hindu that this is precisely the kind of leadership it wanted! (NOTE: Now he says Modi’s hand in rapes, again absolute trash! At least some stray accused lied on camera that Modi patted backs of rioters, but there were not even lies about rapes!) It never struck them that they could use the evidence of violence to shape a stirring dialogue against it.


THE FACT is the Congress is today run by petty strategists who no longer know what it is to do the right thing. They possess neither the illuminations of history, nor a vision for the future. They fail to see that once great men sutured a hundred fault-lines — of caste, religion, race, language, class — to create the idea of
India out of a diverse, colonised, feudal subcontinent. Foolishly they preside over the reopening of these fault-lines, unable to see the chaos that will ensue. They do not know how to wield morality as a weapon in politics, and they lack the courage to walk any high road. At best they are vote accountants who waver between the profit and the loss of various elections.


The present Congress brings grief to the liberal, secular, democratic Indian who needs a political umbrella under which to wage the civilisational battle for
India’s soul. By not saying the right thing, by not doing the right thing, it weakens the resolve of the decent Indian, who lacks the stomach for conflict and seeks affirmation of his decency. The vacated space is then colonised by poisonous ideologies based on exclusion and a garbled — pseudo-religious, pseudo-historic — hunt for identity…”

Tarun Tejpal’s statement should not let anyone be fooled into thinking that the Congress was not behind the Tehelka sting. The Congress could well be behind it. Tarun Tejpal in this same article had bemoaned the legal action taken against Tehelka by the erstwhile NDA government. If he reads this chapter fully, Tarun Tejpal will thank his stars that the BJP or Narendra Modi or any of the accused on camera have not sued Tehelka and him for damages worth 1000 crore rupees.

Now, let us get into the details of the so-called confessions of the people caught on camera. First we should all remember the context in which this sting operation was conducted. Tehelka reporter Ashish Khetan visited the people he caught on secret camera- and presented himself as an author aiming to write a book from the VHP point of view. He talked casually to these people on the riots- without telling them that the conversations were being recorded. This background will help a lot of people understand how these so-called confessions are boastful lies.

The ethics and morality of this sting operation are also questionable. Actually, those caught on camera can sue Tehelka for violation of privacy, because what was supposed to be a private conversation was made public through deceit the correspondent claimed to an author aiming to write a book on the Hindutva school of thought.

However, even assuming that the ethics of this sting operation were all right, let us see the details of the ‘confessions’. Here is what Babu Bajrangi, an accused in the riots said about Narendra Modi-

AUGUST 10, 2007

TEHELKA: The day Patiya happened, didn’t Modi support you?

Bajrangi: He made everything all right, otherwise who would have had the strength… It was his hand all the way… If he’d told the police to do differently, they would have f****d us…. they could have… they had full control…

TEHELKA: They had control?

Bajrangi: They were very much in control all over the city, all over Gujarat… [But] for two days, Narendrabhai was in control…from the third day… a lot of pressure came from the top… Sonia-wonia and all came here…

• • •

TEHELKA: Didn’t Narendrabhai come to meet you [in jail]?

Bajrangi: If Narendrabhai comes to meet me, he’ll be in deep trouble… I didn’t expect to see him… Even today, I don’t expect it…

TEHELKA: Did he ever talk to you over the phone?

Bajrangi: That way I do get to speak to him… but not just like that… The whole world starts singing…

TEHELKA: But when you were absconding, then he…..

Bajrangi: Hmm… I did speak to him twice or thrice…

TEHELKA: He’d encourage you…

Bajrangi: Marad aadmi hai [he’s a real man], Narendrabhai… If he were to tell me to tie a bomb to myself and jump… it wouldn’t take even a second… I could sling a bomb around me and jump wherever I was asked to… for Hindus…(Boastful lies!)

TEHELKA: Had he not been there, then Naroda Patiya, Gulbarg etc…

Bajrangi: Wouldn’t have happened. Would’ve been very difficult.

• • •

SEPTEMBER 1, 2007

TEHELKA: Did Narendrabhai come to Patiya the day of the massacre?

Bajrangi: Narendrabhai came to Patiya… He could not make it to the place of the incidents because there were commando-phamandos with him… But he came to Patiya, saw our enthusiasm and went away… He left behind a really good atmosphere…

TEHELKA: Said you were all blessed…

Bajrangi: Narendrabhai had come to see that things didn’t stop the next day… He went all around Ahmedabad, to all the places where the miyas [Muslims] were, to the Hindu areas… told people they’d done well and should do more…(Our comment: Is it possible to believe this?! Narendra Modi was very busy in Ahmedabad that day and there were TV journalists and cameramen everywhere. Is it possible that Narendra Modi could have gone to all places where riots took place and thanked people?!!!)

• • •

Bajrangi: [After the massacre] the commissioner issued orders [against me]… I was told to leave my home… I ran away… Narendrabhai kept me at… the Gujarat Bhavan at MountAbu for four and- a-half months… After that, [I did] whatever Narendrabhai told me to… Nobody can do what Narendrabhai has done in – Gujarat

… If I did not have the support of Narendrabhai, we would not have been able to avenge [Godhra]… [After it was over,] Narendrabhai was happy, the people were happy, we were happy… I went to jail and came back… and returned to the life I’d led before.

• • •

Bajrangi: Narendrabhai got me out of jail…… He kept on changing judges…. He set it up so as to ensure my release, otherwise I wouldn’t have been out yet… The first judge was one Dholakiaji… He said Babu Bajrangi should be hanged — not once, but four-five times, and he flung the file aside… Then came another who stopped just short of saying I should be hanged… Then there was a third one… By then, four-and-a-half months had elapsed in jail; then Narendrabhai sent me a message… saying he would find a way out… Next he posted a judge named Akshay Mehta… He never even looked at the file or anything…. He just said [bail was] granted… (But those who know law even a bit will know that a Chief Minister cannot change judges! :D ) And we were all out… We were free….. For this, I believe in God… We are ready to die for Hindutva…”

(Courtesy: The official website of Tehelka for all the interview texts)

Now see his statement-“For two days they were in control”. This is a blatantly false statement- a boastful lie. We have seen in this book already that The Hindu, the leading most English daily of South India and a bitter critic of Narendra Modi that: “Unlike February 28 when one community was entirely at the receiving end, the minority backlash on March 1 has further worsened the situation.”

This clearly shows that the Muslims were on the offensive on the second day of the riots. The Hindus or Narendra Modi weren’t at all in ‘complete control’. His statement that the police didn’t do anything is another lie. The Hindu reported: “(On Feb 28) At least 10 people were believed to have been killed in police firing by evening (in Ahmedabad alone)”. Weekly India Today dated 18 March 2002 also reported that the police shot dead 5 Hindus outside Ehsan Jafri’s house in Gulbarg locality on Feb 28 in Ahmedabad. Police shot 1,496 rounds on Feb 28, at least 600 in Ahmedabad.

Babu Bajrangi also says that Narendra Modi came to Naroda Patiya on the day of the massacre, i.e. February 28. But the official records show that Narendra Modi did not visit that place that day. Uday Mahurkar also wrote in weekly India Today in the issue dated 12 November 2007-

“But the impact of the expose has been diluted to some extent by inaccuracies in the statements of those interviewed in the sting. Two out of the 14 caught speaking on camera say that one day after the Naroda Patiya massacre in Ahmedabad on Feb 28 (In which 89 Muslims were killed by a Hindu mob) Modi came to Naroda Patiya to thank them.

But the statements of Babu Bajrangi and Suresh Richard, key accused in the case, seem to be boastful lies as the official records show Modi didn’t go to Naroda Patiya on that day.”

As a matter of fact, Modi did not visit Naroda Patiya either on Feb 28, or on 1st March. Was it not the duty of Tehelka to cross-check and cross examine if the statements made by these people, while thinking that they are talking to a man writing a book from the Hindutva point of view were boastful lies or real truths before making such serious charges on a Chief Minister and for that matter- these people?  

Note that Babu Bajrangi talking about Narendra Modi helping him are BOASTFUL LIES. He wants to boast to the Tehelka reporter (thinking him to be a man writing a book from VHP point of view) that he (Bajrangi) has access to the big boss Narendra Modi and that he (Bajrangi) is a big enough guy to get direct favors from Narendra Modi. There is absolutely nothing more in this. Tehelka also knows very well that this is the case, that Bajrangi is simply bragging that he is important enough to know and get help from Narendra Modi (while the reality has been clarified by Narendra Modi in his leaked answers to the SIT that he (Modi) does not know Babu Bajrangi at all and heard his name only through the media months later). Actually, Tehelka also knew that he will indulge in empty boastful lies and so it fed such questions to him.

 As a matter of fact, none of these statements made by any of the 14 accused have any significance as evidence in any court of law in India. Confessions made intentionally on camera to police carry no value as evidence- only confessions made in court to a judge are regarded as evidence. These so-called confessions were made while casually talking to a person who secretly recorded the proceedings, and they are clearly boastful lies as we have seen the loopholes in them. Even if there were no inaccuracies, still the statements would have absolutely no value as evidence.     

The statements on Naroda Patiya are again lies. The police also saved 900 Muslims in Naroda Patiya since 95 people were killed (after all missing were declared dead) and there were 1,000 Muslims there as reported by The Times of India with the mob aiming to kill everyone. The Times of India reported that the police escorted 400 Muslims to a safe place in the wee hours of 1 March (Friday) after dispersing the mob in the night of 28 Feb (Thursday), a number of them to the SRP (State Reserve Police) headquarters in the vicinity. This article also says: “Even as the SRP constables complain about their 48-hour vigil the wind blows up ashes of a gutted. “I am here for two days now without a shave and proper food,” an SRP constable complains…”Police has gained upper hand over the crowd and situation is under control,” Pravin Gondia, deputy commissioner of police, said. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2002-03-01/india/27126883_1_naroda-patia-mob-burns-minority-community

And all these statements about the judges are wrong. The Chief Minister cannot change judges directly. Judges appointment is done through a process which does not involve the Chief Minister!

Now let us see the statements of Ramesh Dave, a VHP activist-

JUNE 12, 2007

Ramesh Dave: We went to the [VHP] office that night… the atmosphere was very disturbing… Everybody felt that [we had taken it] for so many years… Narendrabhai gave us great support…

TEHELKA: What was his reaction when he reached Godhra?

Dave: In Godhra, he gave a very strong statement… He was in a rage… He’s been with the Sangh from childhood… His anger was such… he didn’t come out into the open then but the police machinery was turned totally ineffective…”

(Official site of Tehelka)

The statement “All the police machinery was turned totally ineffective” is another lie as we have seen the police shot dead 10 Hindus on Feb 28 in Ahmedabad, 5 outside Ehsan Jafri’s house. The Indian Express reported in its issue dated 28 February 2002, even before a single riot had happened that “The state government deployed the Rapid Action Force in Ahmedabad and other sensitive areas while the Centre sent in CRPF personnel”. Modi gave shoot-at-sight orders on Feb 27 at Godhra. There were 827 preventive arrests done on February 27 itself. The Hindustan Times dated 28 February 2002 also said that-“The entire police force of 70,000 had been deployed in Gujarat in view of apprehensions that riots might break out”. All this even before a single riot had taken place. Narendra Modi himself made 2 appeals to the people to maintain calm and not retaliate, one through media at Godhra on the evening of 27 February and the other he got recorded earlier and broadcast on National TV Doordarshan from 28 February afternoon onwards, every day, till the riots ended.We have seen in Chapter 2- Role of the Government in Controlling Violence the steps taken by the Gujarat Government to prevent violence.

Now let us see the interview with Haresh Bhatt, former Godhra MLA of the BJP and former national Vice-President of the Bajrang Dal:

JUNE 1, 2007

TEHELKA: What was Narendra Modi’s reaction when the Godhra incident happened?

Haresh Bhatt: I can’t tell you this… but I can say it was favourable… because of the understanding we shared at that time…

TEHELKA: Tell me something… Did he…

Bhatt: I can’t give a statement… But what he did, no chief minister has ever done …

TEHELKA: I won’t quote it anywhere…For that matter… I am not even going to quote you

Bhatt: He had given us three days… to do whatever we could. He said he would not give us time after that… He said this openly…After three days, he asked us to stop and everything came to a halt…

TEHELKA: It stopped after three days… Even the army was called in.

Bhatt: All the forces came… We had three days… and did what we had to in those three days…

TEHELKA: Did he say that?

Bhatt: Yes… That is why I am saying he did what no chief minister can do…

TEHELKA: Did he speak to you?

Bhatt: I told you that we were at the meeting.

• • •

Bhatt: He had to run the government… the trouble he is facing now… there are several cases being re-opened… people are rebelling against him…

TEHELKA: People in the BJP are revolting against him…

Bhatt: People in the BJP… whatever he has done has made him a larger-than-life figure and the other politicians cannot bear to see that…”

(Official website of Tehelka)

Here again see his statement- “He gave us three days”. This is a lie propagated by the media right since March 2002 and innocent and well-meaning people have fallen for it. There were no 3 days given. CNN-IBN’s Hindi channel also alleged one day after these sting operations that: “There were given 3 days”. But The Hindu reported in its issue dated 1st March 2002 that: “(On Feb 28) The Army units, frantically called by the Chief Minister Narendra Modi…started arriving in Ahmedabad and are expected to be deployed by Friday(March 1) morning”.

This shows that the Chief Minister did not give any time, not even 3 minutes, not to talk of 3 days to anyone for killing. Instead he frantically called the Army. The riots began on February 28 at 11 AM while the Army units started arriving around 11 PM- i.e. within 12 hours the Army units reached Ahmedabad from the border areas. The then Defence Minister George Fernendes also reached Ahmedabad soon thereafter, at 1 AM on the morning of March 1, and in the morning he was bravely parading the streets of Ahmedabad at a great personal risk on Modi’s request- as reported by The Indian Express dated 1st and 2nd March 2002. Moreover, The Indian Express reported the next day that the police shot dead 20 people in Gujarat on 1st March- 12 in Ahmedabad. The Hindu reported on 2nd March that the police shot dead at least 17 people in Ahmedabad alone by 1st March. And on the third day i.e. 2nd March, the Police shot dead 47 more people-as reported by The Hindu dated 3rd March 2002. The actual number of people killed on the 2nd day i.e. 1st March was more than the 20 reported by Indian Express since 24 Hindus were shot dead and 40 injured. It could be that when The Indian Express reported 20 dead, many were still alive and injured and died later to increase the number of those killed in police firing.

This is sufficient to understand that Haresh Bhatt’s statements are absolute lies. Moreover, Haresh Bhatt also claims that he was there at the meeting. The fact is that Narendra Modi did not meet Haresh Bhatt at Godhra on Feb 27. He went to Godhra and returned in the evening on the same day to Ahmedabad. Uday Mahurkar while writing in weekly India Today dated 12 November 2007 mentions that the official records show that Modi did not meet Bhatt that day in Godhra. Again, Haresh Bhatt is boasting that he was important enough a guy to be present in Narendra Modi’s meeting on 27 Feb in Godhra.

Now see the statements made by Suresh Richard, an accused in the riots-

AUGUST 12, 2007

Suresh Richard: [On the day of the massacre] we did whatever we did till quite late in the evening… At around 7.30… around 7.15, our Modibhai came… Right here, outside the house… My sisters garlanded him with roses…(Is it possible to believe this? :D - these are laughable claims)

TEHELKA: Narendrabhai Modi…

Richard: Narendra Modi… He came with black commandos… got down from his Ambassador car and walked up here…. All my sisters garlanded him… a big man is a big man after all…

TEHELKA: He came out on the road?

Richard: Here, near this house…Then he went this way… Looked at how things were in Naroda…

TEHELKA: The day the Patiya incident happened…

Richard: The same evening…

TEHELKA: 28 February …

Richard: 28…

TEHELKA: 2002…

Richard: He went around to all the places… He said our tribe was blessed… He said our mothers were blessed [for bearing us]…

TEHELKA: He came at about 5 o’ clock or at 7?

Richard: Around 7 or 7.30… At that time there was no electricity… Everything had been burnt to ashes in the riots…

• • •

TEHELKA: Now, after that day when Narendrabhai Modi visited your home, the day of the Naroda Patiya massacre, has he ever been back here again?

Richard: Never.”

Now again we have seen that Modi did not visit Naroda Patiya that day, neither on Feb 28 nor on 1st March. As per the leaked answers of Narendra Modi to SIT in the questioning on 28 March 2010, Narendra Modi was addressing a press conference at Circuit House in Ahmedabad on the evening of 28 February. It takes just an iota of common sense to know that it is absolutely impossible for Narendra Modi to have actually gone to Naroda Patiya on 28 February evening at 7, 7:30 pm and patted the backs of the rioters. Note that no one made this allegation for almost 6 years, from February 2002 to Nov 2007 and even after Nov 2007 no one except for Tehelka will believe this. Actually neither will Tehelka believe this, but it will allege this. So these statements do not have the slightest meaning as evidence.

And Tehelka claimed that it had ‘irrefutable evidence’ of Modi’s involvement! On the contrary, there is ‘irrefutable evidence’ of the so-called confessions being meaningless and that Modi handled the riots extremely efficiently, stopped riots in three days while it had taken the previous Congress governments 6 months to stop riots in 1985 and 2-3 months in 1969, 1980, 1982-83. And on an average there were 3 riots in every 4 days in riots in Gujarat for the decade of 1960s. India Today weekly reported in its issue of 12 November 2007:

“There is a clamour among human rights activists for prosecuting Modi following the expose. But as Nirupam Nanavati, Gujarat’s leading criminal lawyer and Congress leader says, “The statement of a co-accused is not admissible as evidence under the Indian Evidence Act.

Modi’s prosecution is possible only after Section 10 of the Act is pressed by the investigation agency to facilitate a fresh probe, which can lead to his implication based on evidence that might surface…”

URL:http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/1716/Gujarat:+The+noose+tightens.html?complete=1

We are seeing the full texts of all interviews published by Tehelka on its own site. Here is the interview on Arvind Pandya, counsel for the Gujarat government.

JUNE 6, 2007

Arvind Pandya: [The Muslims of Godhra] thought they could get away with it because the Gujarati is mild by nature. In the past, they had beaten the Gujarati, they have even beaten the entire world, and nobody has shown any courage… Nobody had ever resisted them… They thought they’d get away with it just like they always do, but they used to get away with it because there was Congress rule here earlier… To get their votes, the Congress would suppress Gujaratis and Hindus… But this time, they were thrashed… It is Hindu rule now… All of Gujarat is ruled by Hindus, and that too from the VHP and the BJP…

TEHELKA: They miscalculated…

Pandya: No, what would have happened… If it were a Congress government, then they would have never allowed Hindus to beat Muslims, they would have used their administrative force just to drag the Hindus down… They never stop [Muslims] from violence… They’ll tell Hindus to maintain peace but will never do anything to touch them [Muslims]… They would never have done anything, even in cases like [Godhra], but in this case, there was a Hindu-based government and… so, people were ready and the state was also ready… This is a good connivance [sic].

TEHELKA: This was the good fortune of the Hindu community… the entire Hindu samaj.

Pandya: And let us say the ruler was also strong in nature because he gave, just take the revenge and I am ready… We must first salute Kalyan Singh because he accepted every kind of liability before the Supreme Court, saying… I did this, I was the party….

TEHELKA: Later on, when he changed the party…

Pandya: He did, but he was the founder person, he just stood before the Supreme Court boldly and said that I am the person…

TEHELKA: Took sole responsibility.

Pandya: Thereafter, the second hero by the name of… Narendra Modi came and he gave oral instructions to the police to remain with the Hindus, because the entire kingdom is with the Hindus.

JUNE 8, 2007

TEHELKA: Sir, is it true that when Modi went to Godhra on February 27, that VHP workers attacked him?

Pandya: No, they didn’t. (This is another lie. They did manhandle him)It’s like this… There are 58 bodies… and it’s evening…people are bound to say, what have you done…

TEHELKA: From 8 in the morning till evening, he didn’t land up… So, when things got heated, then Modi ji got angry and he…

Pandya: No it’s not like that… Modi’s been on our line for a long time… Forget that matter… But he’s occupying a post, so naturally there are more limitations… and he has quite a few… It is he who gave all signals in favour of the Hindus… If the ruler is hard, then things can start happening…

TEHELKA: Did you meet… Narendra Modi after he returned from Godhra on the 27th?

Pandya: No, I will not answer queries on this… I shouldn’t…

TEHELKA: Sir, I want to know what was his first reaction?

Pandya: When Narendra Modi first heard it over the phone, his blood was boiling… Tell me, what else do I say… I’ve given you some hints and I can’t reveal more than that… nor should I say it…

TEHELKA: I wanted to know this… what his first reaction was…

Pandya: No, his reaction was like this: if he were not a minister, he would have burst bombs… If he had the capacity and was not a minister he would have detonated a few bombs in Juhapura [a Muslim dominated locality in Ahmedabad].”

Both the important statements made by Pandya have been highlighted. The first, that Modi gave ‘oral’ instructions to the police to remain with Hindus. This is again false, because as we have seen by now there were 98 people shot dead by police in the first three days alone, majority of whom are Hindus. 

The second statement, if he was not a minister and he had the capacity he would have detonated bombs in Juhapura is also irrelevant. In the entire state no one detonated bombs not only in Juhapura but also in any other Muslim area.

But Pandya has made a stunning charge against Tehelka. He claims that he was asked to say all this by Aaj Tak scribe Dhimant Purohit, who is his friend, after telling him that this is for a TV serial! After this exposure, he filed a defamation suit against Tehelka, on various charges, which prompted Purohit to seek anticipatory bail. Pandya’s statement that when Modi went to Godhra VHP workers did not attack him is also incorrect. The Times of India’s website reported on 27 February itself that Modi was manhandled by an irate mob of VHP supporters.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2002-02-28/ahmedabad/27119372_1_zadaphia-judicial-probe-modi

Now let us see the interview of Rajendra Vyas, Ahmedabad VHP chief-

JUNE 8, 2007

TEHELKA: I wanted to know… about Narendra Modi… what were his first words [after the Godhra train incident]? What did he tell all of you? …

Rajendra Vyas: He first said that we would take revenge… the same thing I myself had said publicly… I hadn’t even eaten anything then… Hadn’t even had a drop of water… I was in such a rage that so many people had died, tears were flowing from my eyes… but when I started using my strength… started abusing… he [Modi] said, Rajendrabhai, calm yourself, everything will be taken care of… What did he mean when he said that everything would be taken care of? … All those who were meant to understand, understood…”

There is of course- no evidence to support that Modi said any of this. And there is evidence to show that he did none of this. The records should be checked to show if Modi actually met Vyas that day or not-this itself seems very unlikely as he was very busy that day. We have seen how efficiently and with a limited police force, even after a shocking massacre like Godhra Modi controlled the riots in 3 days. Also, Rajendra Vyas himself may not have done anything like this and just indulged in empty talk. That’s what seems most likely! VHP itself made appeals for peace and urged Hindus not to retaliate. Acharya Giriraj Kishore said this, and a Gujarat VHP leader urged every Hindu to ‘stay indoors’ on 28 Feb, the next day. Naturally, staying indoors would mean not retaliating and maintaining peace.

Now let us again see the other statements of people on camera on what they said about the police. To begin with, Babu Bajrangi:

SEPTEMBER 1, 2007

Nobody can do what Narendrabhai has done in Gujarat. If I didn’t have Narendrabhai’s support, we would not have been able to avenge Godhra… because the police was standing right in front of us, seeing all that was happening, but they had shut their eyes and mouths… At that time, had the police wanted, they would never have let us in… There was just one entry, like a housing society has, and then Patiya begins… If they wanted to stop us, there were 50 of them there, they could have stopped us… We had good support from the police… because of Narendrabhai… and that is because whatever happened in Gujarat, happened for the best. We got some relief from these people [the Muslims]… they had got so high and daring…

• • •

The Muslims kept making calls to the police, kept running to the police… They had one man called Salem… supposed to be a sort of Naroda Patiya dada… he got into a police jeep… got right inside… I myself caught him and dragged him out… The cops said kill him, if he’s left alive, he’ll testify against us… He was taken a little way away and finished off right there… If the bastard had lived, he would have said he’d climbed into a police jeep and was thrown out, things like that…

• • •

[By the end, there were about 700- 800 bodies.] They were all removed… The Commissioner came that night and said that if there were so many dead at one place, it would create trouble for him… So he had the corpses picked up and dumped all over Ahmedabad… When they were brought to the Civil Hospital for the post-mortem, they were said to be from this place or that…

• • •

AUGUST 10, 2007

At 2.30 that night, I called the police inspector [Mysorewala]… He said don’t come here [to the station]… There were dekho to [shoot at sight] orders against me… Wherever Babu Bajrangi was found, he was to be shot… He told me to run away… our Mysorewala… He said he couldn’t do a thing for me… I wasn’t even to tell anyone he’d called… But even so, he sent a rider to my house… you can imagine how my children felt at that time…


• • •

[Four months later] Narendrabhai told me… there was a lot of pressure on him… The media, TV, so much coverage… Babu Bajrangi is a goonda… Laloo complained in Parliament about my not being caught… So Narendrabhai asked me to surrender…(But Narendra Modi has clarified that he did not know Bajrangi at all and heard his name through the media years later. So these are again lies) I said, alright saheb, if you tell me to, I will give myself up… I surrendered near Gandhinagar… it was all a big drama… all a drama… the police, the Crime Branch, had been told I would be passing through that area… PP Pandey saheb, who was [joint] commissioner in the Crime Branch then, he was there too and some 12 or 13 cars came… These people waited on the road from Biloda to Gandhinagar… they checked a few cars… I had to land up… it was part of the act… If I’d gone straight to the Crime Branch, the media and the NGOs would have ripped me apart… It was all a drama… they caught me, tied me up with rope… all drama… They told me they were tying me up just for show…”

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main35.asp?filename=Ne031107TheirEyes.asp

Now again all this has little value. Because as we have seen his earlier statement that “Modi came to Naroda Patiya on Feb 28” is false. The statement that 700-800 bodies were there in Naroda is another lie. This is because only 95 people were killed in the riots in Naroda Patiya that too after all missing were declared dead.  Earlier figure was 83. We have also seen how the police, instead of allowing any killings to take place actually saved 900 Muslims in the episode and escorted 400 Muslims to safety after dispersing the mob. Also, all details of a man named Salem seem to be very suspicious. After the sting, Babu Bajrangi denied having led any mob in Naroda Patiya, and he may well have been indulging in boastful lies about his own role. His statements on role of police and Narendra Modi are of course lies. There is a saying “Jo bhaukte hein, vo kaatte nahi” (Those who bark do not bite). Those who brag and bluff are very timid from inside, is what is a saying.

On this issue the Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi has maintained a complete silence. Hence we have not been able to know many loopholes of this operation. When Bajrangi actually surrendered, at what place, and in what circumstances needs to be checked thoroughly. The statement that: “There were 50 policemen but they didn’t do anything” seems to be another lie. This is because weekly India Today reported-

“At Naroda Patia, the scene of the worst carnage, there was no police presence worth the name to prevent the mobs from grouping in the morning and going on a rampage. There were at least three mobs of 4,000 to 5,000 each attacking Muslims.”

Months later, The Hindu reported on 20th August 2004 that-

Inadequate police force

According to (former police inspector of Naroda) Mr. Mysorewala, the Naroda police station with 80 policemen was adequate in normal times but the situation on February 28 was unprecedented and was quickly going out of control.

He said he had asked for police reinforcement and was given 24 additional SRP men but even that was inadequate considering the size of the attacking mob, about 17,000 people. ”

This is what K. K. Mysorewala told the Nanavati Commission on 19 Aug 2004. Also, whether Laloo Yadav really asked for the arrest of Babu Bajrangi in Parliament is not known and is most likely untrue.

Now see what Suresh Richard about the role of the police:

AUGUST 12, 2007

The police were with us… I can tell you so myself even now… the police… That day was great… They were shooting right in front of us… They must have killed 70 or 80 or more… didn’t even spare women…

• • •

We’d finished burning everything and had come back… That was when the police called us… They said Muslims were hiding in the gutter… Now when we went there, we saw their houses had all been burned down but seven or eight of them had hidden in the drain… We closed the lid on it… if we’d gone in after them, we might have been in danger… We closed the lid and placed big boulders on it… Later on, they found eight or ten corpses in there… They’d hidden to save their lives, but we closed it off and they died of the gases down there… This happened in the evening… the dhamaal went on till night, till about 8.30…”

Again- this man has spoken boastful lies about Modi’s role- these are more lies. When the police were overwhelmingly outnumbered by mobs of the size of 17,000 as we understand by Mysorewala’s testimony before the Nanavati Commission as well as India Today‘s report they certainly did not kill “70 or 80 or more” people. Far from it, they escorted 400 Muslims to safety and saved the lives of more than 900 Muslims in this episode. Nobody has ever alleged- no Muslim survivor of Naroda Patiya or anyone else that the “Police killed 70 or 80 or more Muslims in Naroda Patiya”. His inaccuracies actually make it seem that this man may not have been present in Naroda at all on that day!

Ahmedabad VHP chief Rajendra Vyas said about the role of the police:

“Rajendra Vyas: As chief minister, Narendrabhai couldn’t say “Kill all the Muslims.” I could say it publicly because I was from the VHP… Pravinbhai Togadia can say it… But he [Modi] can’t say it… But it’s like how we say it in Gujarati, “aa khada kaan khada” [to turn a blind eye]… meaning, he gave us a free run to do whatever we wanted to since we were already fed up of the Muslims… The police was with us… Please understand what I’m trying to say — the police was on our side, and so was the entire Hindu samaj… Bhai [Modi] was careful about that… or else the police would have been on the other side….

TEHELKA: Yes, if it had been a Congress government…

Vyas: Then the result would have been the opposite…

TEHELKA: But the police are after all Hindu. What I want to know is what stand did they take then?

Vyas: They didn’t go near the Muslims… [though] when people would call them up, they’d say they were coming… That’s what they did at that time… The other thing they did was tell people that they could do whatever they wanted… they wouldn’t do a thing…”

Now these are again lies. But see- no mentions of police killing 70 or 80 or more Muslims in Naroda Patiya!

M.S.University accountant Dheemant Bhatt said-

MAY 9, 2007

Some 50 people like myself had special permission from the police commissioner… to move in curfew areas to help… in order to maintain the peace and law and order… That was just an excuse… I am very open… clear [about it]… But how were we to help the Hindus? At that time, there wasn’t even a stick of wood in Hindu homes. So what were we to do?… We took iron pipes… three feet each… iron bars, and if there were people from the Bajrang Dal, then trishuls… The Bajrang Dal people had a plan for putting together the samaan [weapons] and we went and supplied them to key persons in various localities… It was very necessary…”

These facts need to be investigated. If for argument’s sake we assume what he says is true, did the police give him permission intentionally? And it seems highly unlikely that they did, they seem to be more lies. But if he is guilty, he should be punished.

Dhawal Jayanti Patel said-

TEHELKA: After Godhra, when you made bombs and sent them to Ahmedabad, didn’t the police stop you on the way?

Patel: We concealed them from the police… the police would also let us go… If you say Jai Shri Ram, it matters… After all they were Hindus, they also understood…”

This is again dubious, whether he really made bombs. But if his confession is true, how is this an indictment of the police? He clearly says that he ‘hid’ the bombs from the police. If the police was involved in the rioting, would he have needed to ‘hide’ the bombs? And there are no records of bombs being used on February 28 at all.

Now see the statement made by VHP’s zilla mantri in Kalupur area of Ahmedabad, Ramesh Dave-

JUNE 12, 2007

The police were very helpful… very helpful… That’s why when the human rights people came… when they saw everything… they said the politicians had a role in it all… the police too, in fact, everyone who belonged to the [Hindu] samaj… because, after all, what were the police?… The police were Hindu too. The thing was, they were under pressure from the government… If they wanted to do something, they couldn’t…

[SK] Gadvi saheb was a new DCP here… Curfew was on and he was patrolling about… I went up to him on my cycle and said namaskar to him… How are you out in curfew hours, he asked… I am a maharaj, I said, I can go wherever I please… Up till then, he didn’t know I was from the Vishwa Hindu Parishad… Then he said he wanted to climb to the top of a nearby temple… I asked him what it was he wanted to do there… He said a lot of Muslims from outside were sitting there and he wanted to set them straight…

I said, if you want to set them straight, then there’s a spot I can take you to… But you have to promise me that you’ll kill at least four or five of them there… He promised…

Then we went to that place… He said he’d been there before… I said, forget whether you’ve been here or not… There was a house which was locked, I had the key sent for and we went to the terrace. From there, the place was straight ahead… He started firing from the terrace, and before we knew it he’d killed five people…

Gadvi saheb would tell us never to take his name anywhere, but all the policemen helped us… they all did… One shouldn’t say it, but they even gave us cartridges…”

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main35.asp?filename=Ne031107All_The_Cops.asp

Weekly India Today dated 12 November 2007 reported:

Similarly, a VHP activist, Ramesh Dave, told the Tehelka reporter Ashish Khetan on camera that one of the divisional superintendents of police, S.K.Gadhvi, promised him that he would kill five Muslims during the riots and carried out his promise by killing five Muslims in the Dariapur area. Official records show that Gadhvi was posted in the Dariapur area of Ahmedabad one month after the riots and no such incident took place under his tenure.

   This again nails the Tehelka and Ramesh Dave’s lies. Now let us see the statements made by Pralhad Raju- an accused in the Gulbarg case:

SEPTEMBER 8, 2007

 TEHELKA: How did the police behave with you on the day of the Gulbarg incident?

Raju: The police did nothing except watch us…

TEHELKA: They let you do whatever you wanted to?

Raju: They did not arrest a single person that day. Nobody was touched. (This is rubbish. Police arrested 700 people on that day!)

TEHELKA: They didn’t stop anyone?

Raju: They dispersed us after 4:30.

TEHELKA: Till then nobody was stopped?

Raju: When orders came from the higher-ups… we were told to leave.

TEHELKA: They let you do as you wanted till 4:30?

Raju: Yes… The Crime Branch people behaved very nicely with us… We felt completely at home… Our family members used to come to meet us and they were allowed to… We were kept at the Branch for about a week…”

  These are again boastful lies, and this testimony makes it seem as if this man was not present at the Gulbarg locality on Feb 28 at all. This is because Ehsan Jafri fired at the Hindu crowd injuring 15 and killing 1, as reported by SIT and backed by India Today, Times of India, Outlook. The police shot dead 5 Hindus and saved the lives of more than 180 Muslims in the episode despite being overwhelmingly outnumbered, as reported by India Today and Times of India. There were 250 people inside the house at that time and 69 people killed in the case. Nowhere in its reports online of 28 February 2002 does The Times of India allege any inaction on part of the police. On the contrary it says that the police and fire brigade were not allowed to enter by the furious mob but police gained control after 8 PM.

Now see the interview of Anil Patel, the VHP state vibhag pramukh:

 “JUNE 13, 2007

 Anil Patel: See, there were some areas where we were very concerned about our safety…

 TEHELKA: Such as…

 Patel: Kalupur… Dariapur… Hindus live along the edges of these places. For their safety, we sent some samaan [weapons] from here.

 TEHELKA: Sent from here…

 Patel: From time to time… there were some policemen we were in touch with… They would come and take the samaan and deliver it safely to the places it was supposed to go… The police here gave us so much support… Some even said, do something… loot them, break them, finish them… I had a fight once with a DSP. One of our brothers cut a Muslim’s ear off with a sword and the DSP arrested him. I told the DSP that our people had been burnt to death and that he was corrupt and used to share food with Muslims in Baroda. Later on, he released the guy. DSP ND Solanki was very good. He said, release him…

 TEHELKA: So Solanki lent support?

 Patel: Full, full. He gave me complete support… See, when the riots were dying out, when temperatures had started cooling down, someone in Biloda village said that nothing had happened there… that something should be done… There was a man there called Mansoori… he was a SIMI sympathiser… he had a vegetable shop… He was hacked to death… Later on, a co-minister from our area, [VHP leader] Arvindbhai Soni, was arrested… I went to Biloda and later on I called the DSP and talked to him… Jayantibhai and I both went and met him and he said he would release Arvindbhai… Everything was there on paper, in the arrest report, but when Arvindbhai was to be transferred to judicial custody, he was told to go back to the [VHP] karyalaya

 TEHELKA: To go to the karyalaya

 Patel: He stayed there for a month and a half.

 TEHELKA: That’s what the DSP said? Who was the DSP?

 Patel: ND Solanki

Patel: There was this IB officer, Sreekumar, who sent a fax to the Ahmedabad police commissioner saying the Sabarkantha VHP had supplied weapons to Ahmedabad… The matter was inquired into… our block minister was arrested… The inspector who came for the inquiry was associated with the Sangh…

TEHELKA: What was his name?

 Patel: I don’t know but… after the inquiry was over, he told us that he was with the Jeevan Dal Bhole, our vibhag pracharak…”

   It is for the investigators to see if the statements made by this man are really true or again lies. But his statement that there was a concern for the safety of the Hindus in Kalupur and Dariapur areas of Ahmedabad is absolutely true. The only man he indicts is himself.

   Now let us see the statements made by Mangilal Jain-an accused in the Ehsan Jafri case:

“SEPTEMBER 8, 2007

TEHELKA: What was the name of that inspector you were talking about?

 Jain: [KG] Erda [Meghaninagar police inspector]…

 TEHELKA: Erda… what did he do?

 Jain: He supported us… Those people kept away from the public that day.

 TEHELKA: Kept away from Muslims?

 Jain: From the public…. from Hindus… they told us that everything should be finished within two or three hours.

 TEHELKA: That means they gave you two or three hours…

 Jain: To finish…

 TEHELKA: To finish everything…

 Jain: This was happening across all of Ahmedabad. [It was understood] no outsider would come. Even reinforcements weren’t going to come… The force wouldn’t get there till evening… So we were to do all the work.

 TEHELKA: He told you to do it all in two to three hours…

 Jain: He said it and the mob went berserk. Some started looting. Others started killing… Someone dragged a man out and hacked him down and burned him… A lot of this kind of stuff happened…

 TEHELKA: You were caught after two months?

 Jain: I surrendered after two months.

 TEHELKA: Did you appear in court?

 Jain: Not in court… I appeared before the Crime Branch people. Sadavrati saheb was there… I called him home. We had dinner. He told me to surrender. I did as he said…

 TEHELKA: Sadavrati cooperated?

 Jain: Cooperated… he met me in the evening…

 TEHELKA: Was he of help…

 Jain: He said that Mangilal’s name was there. He told me to surrender…

 TEHELKA: At your house?

 Jain: At my house… Don’t worry [he said], have no fear and produce yourself at 10 o’clock tomorrow morning… All will be well… Your son will be out in a month or two… Now that his name is on record, there’s no way out… If his name is there, it means he has to appear… Even a PM or CM can’t help it… So I surrendered to the Crime Branch… they took good care of me…

 TEHELKA: They took good care of you…

 Jain: Yes sir… down there in the lock-up, there were mosquitoes and it’s filthy… We were not kept there… there was a room up above their office… We were kept in the office…There were mattresses… food from my home would come for me twice a day… We were there for three days …

 TEHELKA: Three days…

 Jain: We were produced in court on the first day…

 TEHELKA: Where did they record you as being picked up from?

Jain: They said that we were picked up from home.…

TEHELKA: They said this…

 Jain: Yes, that’s what they said… That’s what the police are like, they say one thing and do something else… All they want is to keep their own names looking clean…

 TEHELKA: But they took good care of you…

 Jain: It was good… We got there in the evening… we would get tea twice a day and we could make phone calls… I would get calls from home… we would also make calls… we had full phone facilities… We were in the Crime Branch for three days… we were not even touched… I have to say this… nobody laid a finger on me… They took my statement that day itself… “What happened… Where were you that day…” [was all they asked.]

 TEHELKA: What did you say?

 Jain: I said the shop was closed and I had gone there to watch… I was part of the group… I said I was in the group… and my house was at a distance from that place and there was a huge crowd, I didn’t recognize anyone who did the killing… That’s what I’d say… “Don’t know who was doing the killing… Everybody was raising slogans… so was I…” That’s what I told them, and then I said that after it all, I got home by 2… That’s what I said…

 TEHELKA: That’s what you said…

 Jain: What I said…

 TEHELKA: Didn’t they try forcing you to tell the truth?

 Jain: No, sir… I wasn’t even touched… Whatever I said, they noted down…

 TEHELKA: Noted just as you said…

 Jain: They didn’t say anything to me… I was on remand for two days… the remand was over on the first day itself… It was just for name’s sake… For two days I would get my tiffin from home… my family members would come to meet me… I had every convenience…

 TEHELKA: Meaning the remand was just a formality… a legal process…

 Jain: These people followed full legal process…”

    His statement- “Even reinforcements weren’t going to come… The force wouldn’t get there till evening… So we were to do all the work.” is wrong since reinforcements did arrive that day, but by that time the mob had swelled to 10,000 as per weekly India Today.  If this man’s statements are indeed true, there is no reason why he should not be prosecuted. But these statements will not stand as evidence in any court of law. But does this really indict Modi ?

   Another interview is that of Madan Chawal an accused in the Gulmarg episode:

   “JUNE 12, 2007

Chawal: I was there that day… all day, I ran with them… When they brought Jafri saheb, I was standing there itself… they held him down, kicked him in the back… they meant to chop him up…

 TEHELKA: Describe it all in detail… Where did it begin?

 Chawal: I was at my shop when the VHP people came around 8.30-9 o’clock to get the shops to down shutters. Around 9-9.30, a shop was set ablaze right in front of mine. That’s when I realized it had started…

 TEHELKA: Was it a Muslim’s shop?

 Chawal: Yes, it was. People started running once it started. Papa told me to close my shop… even though it was my region, my area, and nobody would have said anything even if my shop had stayed open… Nobody spoke when they told them to close the shops… Then I gestured with my hands to say it wouldn’t look nice, it was a matter of religion and hence it was all the more important to close the shops… My father said close it for today, let’s go home… My father, the others, all of us went home…Then around 10.30 or 11, I went out… The moment I did so, I joined the mob… the ruckus continued all the time I was with the crowd… it went on for at least two and a half hours …

 TEHELKA: Who was leading the mob?

 Chawal: Most people had joined the mob. The moment that shop was set on fire, everyone started gathering there.

 TEHELKA: Were the VHP people also part of the mob?

 Chawal: All of them.

 TEHELKA: Who were there from the VHP?

 Chawal: At that time, I didn’t know all the leaders… I never had any contacts since I’m from a business background and I knew people only from that field… Later, though, when I met Atul-bhai, I remembered he was there too…

 TEHELKA: Atul Vaid was there…

 Chawal: Atul Vaid was there, then there’s one Bharatbhai Teli, he was also there. These boys…these big ones… they came to get me out of jail, it was then that I met them… they would come to the police station… Although they never came to the Central jail… they would look at me when they would come to the station … That was when I began realising that they were also there… And I used to wonder why I had been arrested while their names were dropped… Why didn’t Atul Vaid and Bharat Teli’s names come up when mine did?… I didn’t give it too much importance, though, since these people could have helped me leave jail or do something else for me. That is why I never opened my mouth, never dropped a word anywhere about these people being there too… nobody ever said anything about it… not even the 40 boys who were inside jail…

 TEHELKA: Everybody knew it…

 Chawal: They knew it…We would never talk about what exactly happened… In jail, we would say that we didn’t know anything about it… that we’d just been trapped … I was recorded in the first chargesheet as having used kerosene to lit a fire… In that chargesheet I had been shot around 5.30-6.00 in the evening when Erda saheb said…

 TEHELKA: Who shot you?

 Chawal: Erda saheb said that…that whole region… Didn’t I show you the place?

 TEHELKA: Yes.

 Chawal: I was just standing around… some eight to 15 people were there near him… We asked, saheb, what are you doing, why are you saving them?

 TEHELKA: You said this to Erda…

 Chawal: The public… we were eight to 15 people… everyone asked him ‘What are you doing?’

 TEHELKA: You asked him where he was taking the Muslims?

 Chawal: We asked him where he was taking them… then he told us what he was doing…

 TEHELKA: What did he say?

 Chawal: He said, do this… when the vehicle [in which the Muslims were] comes this way, our constable [accompanying the vehicle] will run away… set the vehicle on fire… The whole episode will end here itself and there will be no question of framing a case against anyone… Poori picture yahin khatam ho jayegi [it will be “The End” here itself]… When he said this, the Bagri community thought that they were taking people who could turn witness… [they feared] that he might get them in trouble… They started pelting stones at Erda saheb… and when one of them hit him, I ran away. He took out his revolver… he was behind me… he yelled at me and told me stop… When I tried to pull my nephew along with me while I was escaping, he shot at me…

 TEHELKA: Erda saheb shot you?… Was it by mistake…

 Chawal: It was by mistake… it was shot at my hand… My hand was injured but none of the clinics were open, all of them were closed… All the hospital at that time… Then I went to the Civil Hospital… I wasn’t aware about things like these because I had never been part of anything like this before… That day, I ended up getting my real name written in the hospital records…

 TEHELKA: Then how did you kill Jafri that morning?

 Chawal: Jafri…Well, it’s like when those people caught him, I kicked him in the back and they pulled him away… The moment they pulled him away…

 TEHELKA: You kicked Jafri?

 Chawal: Kicked him…

 TEHELKA: He fell down…

 Chawal: Gira… woh nahi… khaich… unke haath me tha, na… Paanchchheh jan pakad liye the, phir usko jaise pakad ke khada rakha phir logon mein kisi ne talwar maari… haath kate… haath kaat ke phir pair kaate… phir na sab kaat dala… phir tukde kar ke phir lakda jo lagaye the, lakde uspe rakh ke phir jala daala… zinda jala daala… [Fell down… not that… He was pulled by his hand… Five or six people held him, then someone struck him with a sword… chopped off his hand, then his legs… chopped off all his organs… after cutting him to pieces, they put him on the wood they’d piled and set it on fire… burnt him alive…]

 TEHELKA: So when you people were cutting up Jafri’s body, didn’t Erda come to save him?

 Chawal: No one did anything… At that time, Erda saheb wasn’t even there… He had gone to Meghaninagar with his vehicle… He didn’t know they were chopping Jafri saheb… All this happened around 1 or 1.30.

 TEHELKA: But did the rest of Jafri’s family manage to escape?

 Chawal: No they didn’t… His wife was the only one saved… She disguised herself as a Hindu…

 TEHELKA: But some of his daughters were saved?

 Chawal: Nobody at the place escaped, none of his family… The only ones who did were the ones who weren’t there… His wife said that she was a maid… a Hindu, living in the Patrewali Chawl that is behind… Why do you want to kill me [she said], I’m just a servant. She was dressed like a Hindu… well dressed…

 TEHELKA: She escaped because you didn’t recognise her?

 Chawal: I had never met her because there was never a need to go and meet them… I never had any relations with them…

TEHELKA: How big is Gulbarg society…Do lots of people live there?

 Chawal: Lots of them.

 TEHELKA: So have people come back to live at this place?

 Chawal: Nobody has come back… it’s closed now… it’s like a jail… Nobody came back to it…

 TEHELKA: But some people were saved there that evening?…

 Chawal: Some 40 people ran away… some of them had left before…

 TEHELKA: So how did you enter Gulbarg?

 Chawal: People got gas cylinders from their homes… They kept them on the society’s outer walls… then they got pipes from the bakery where bread and so on are made and they opened the cylinders with them. Then they went far and made a khupda [cloth torch] and threw the cylinders at the wall… The cylinders exploded and the wall broke. Then we got inside…

TEHELKA: Was the wall too high?

Chawal: Too much… it was no two ft wall… It must have been around 15-20 feet high…On top of it, there was a barbed wire fence too…

TEHELKA: So the wall broke with just one or two cylinders?

Chawal: Two cylinders… one was thrown there and the other one in the front… The wall would obviously have broken from the cylinders… Cylinders are heavy…

TEHELKA: So the houses inside caught fire?

Chawal: People used the residents ’own things to burn their houses… nobody needed to get anything from outside… their own things were used to burn them…

TEHELKA: The same thing happened in Patiya too…

Chawal: The same happened in Patiya…”

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main35.asp?filename=Ne031107They_hacked.asp

   The statement “Nobody from his family survived-expect his wife” is also blatantly false. The fact is that more than 180 Muslims were saved in the episode and many relatives who were there, apart from his wife survived. Also there is no suggestion that his wife disguised herself as a Hindu to save herself. This is completely wrong on facts. Again these statements are clear lies.

   Also Jafri was not cut to pieces. His wife Zakia said as reported by India Today dated 18 March 2002:”I have never see such a huge mob, they burnt alive my husband”. This statement itself contradicts the claim that Jafri was cut into pieces. Besides it is reported (but not yet independently verified by us) that Jafri’s post mortem report says that he died due to bullet injury. BJP MP Chandan Mitra also said that Jafri’s post mortem report said he died due to bullet injury. He wrote: ” The post-mortem report said Congress ex-MP Ehsan Jafri died of three bullets lodged in his body. No limbs were cut one after another; neither was his torso “toasted”, contrary to a chilling assertion by a prominent rioter.” Hence this man’s details of Jafri’s legs being cut etc all clearly seem to be boastful lies.

   In his interview Anil Patel, VHP leader, also says that Congress leaders were also involved in the riots in attacks on Muslims. What does the Congress Party have to say about that? The Times of India also reported dated 9th August 2003 that 25 Congress leaders are accused of attacking Muslims in the riots in a report titled: “Congress silent on cadres linked to Gujarat riots”.

   All this was about the interviews of the accused and others. But no one has heard their points of view after the sting operation. What do these people have to say in self-defence?

  But the Gujarat Congress leader Shankersinh Vaghela said something else on this Tehelka operation. 

The Tehelka expose on the Gujarat carnage was a “belated attempt” by the Narendra Modi government to boost his sagging image among the voters ahead of forthcoming state assembly elections, Union Textile Minister Shankersinh Vaghela alleged on Saturday.” This was just an attempt to deflect public attention from the ongoing infighting within the Gujarat unit of the Bharatiya Janata Party,” he added.

 “It is more like a fake encounter, to build his own image as hardcore pro-Hindu and trying to revive Hinduism,” the minister alleged.”

Link: http://ia.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/27modi.htm

  Sankarshan Thakur (of Tehelka) kept reiterating on TV (when he was not busy rudely interrupting Chandan Mitra) that the sting had irrefutable evidence of Modi’s involvement. That, in fact is the whole point of the sting, as Reality Check pointed out in one of the best analysis of the situation so far.

   Sankarshan claimed that Bajrangi had confessed that he had cut open a pregnant woman and pulled out the foetus. In fact Bajrangi had said that the FIR on him stated that he had cut open a pregnant woman (transcript does not mention foetus). This makes it the third version of the foetus story (the other version was supplied by none other than Arundhati Roy, when her distraught friend and an eye witness called her up to narrate the foetus brandishing incident). We have seen how Balbir Punj reacted to this in Outlook in our Chapter 7-Concocted Lies and Myths by the Media. Then there was the issue of Ehsan Jafri. His post mortem stated that he had succumbed to bullet wounds – one of the stung claims he was cut up limb by limb. (This is Reality Check’s claim not yet verified by us).

   An article on the internet posted on 27 October 2007 says:

   What can one say about this? Chandan Mitra has a column on The Pioneer questioning some of the claims of the sting-op, especially the time frame. Apart from lip-sync issues, it is disturbing that the videos provided contain very small portion of the actual transcript. It is questionable how faithful these transcripts are. We hope Tehelka knows what it’s doing, because this will surely snowball into a full blown constitutional crisis…

   …Suddenly the whole of Tehelka team is acting all indignant and defensive. They even answered allegations against the sting on the Tehelka website. One of the editors, Shoma Chaudhary, put the casualty count at 2,500.   Remember that Bajrangi was a non-entity before the media made him a legend of Hindu bride reverse-abductions. This has been going on for a while, even Tehelka published long articles on him. This clearly proves that they knew very well what they were doing. They want to connect the riots to people as high in the party hierarchy as possible, ultimately leading to Modi.

  They didn’t just stumble upon evidence and hurriedly released it. The whole thing was likely engineered and meticulously planned. The questions were very carefully coined well in advance, not a dare devil reporter asking impromptu questions, making use of a windfall opportunity. Haresh Bhatt was extensively interviewed about preparations during the Babri Masjid issue. This was seamlessly merged into the post-Godhra riots. This has naturally spawned conspiracy theories, some by none other than Modi’s chief detractor, ex-CM Mehta.

    As a matter of fact, the constant movie references for a purportedly genuine sting is quite disturbing. The men filmed are constantly being referred to as the cast of characters, Tehelka Editor Shoma Chaudhury chose a movie reference for the title of her column on HT. You will require some background in order to appreciate her column:

    “This and other genuine errors in recounting the details of the violence in Gujarat in no way alters the substance of what journalists, fact-finding missions, or writers like myself are saying.

    If you are scratching your head, maybe you should not read Shoma Chaudhury’s piece. One wonders why would she need to pontificate so much, going way beyond the scope of the sting (and perhaps way beyond her intellectual depth) and questioning everything about our democracy. While steadfastly maintaining the sting was not political and merely investigative journalism aimed at securing justice for the victims, she ends up exhorting Hindus to vote against Modi.

     “The real faultline in India today is not between Hindus and Muslims. It is between Hindus and Hindus. If the Hindus of Gujarat are going to re-elect Modi after being confronted with visual proof of what he stands for, we have to aggressively reclaim what being Hindu means.”

   What started as irrefutable evidence to nail Modi thus ends up being a moral sermon. No mention of the actual evidence in the tapes or arguments to bolster the case. It’s my way or the highway – if you don’t believe in the sting, our democracy is flawed or you must be a communal Hindu.

   Meanwhile the sting is steadily making its way into the jihadi fables, the ones used to recruit and radicalize impressionable youth to launch deadly terror attacks. If anything, the sting proved that the train fire was not an accident, yet the newspapers in Middle-East and Pakistan are qualifying it, while reporting the other part at face value:

NEW DELHI: The editor of Tehelka magazine said on Wednesday Muslims in India’s western state of Gujarat were being “hunted like rabbits”. Hindu extremists had killed around 2,000 Muslims in three days after Sabarmati Express, a train carrying Hindu pilgrims, was allegedly set on fire by Muslims at Godhra Railway Station.

Meanwhile, the Tehelka team members are now folk heroes and are acting as such, writing columns, appearing on reality TV style shows and giving interviews. You have to read some of the stuff to believe it. The sting has assumed the status of urban legends now. Absent any forensic analysis and needless to say a critical examination of the raw unedited footage of indeterminate length, the Tehelka folks are laying it on thick and heavy. For instance, Prof. Bandukwala was mercilessly killed, according to none other than Ashish Khetan (of Tehelka). Prof. Bandukwala made a mysterious reapearence very recently to accept the Indira Gandhi Award for National Integration!

  Likewise, Bajrangi had stated on the tapes that his FIR alleged that he had cut open a pregnant woman. This gradually became Bajrangi confessing his crime on tape. Finally we have Bajrangi actually gloating over a foetus ripped out of a mother’s womb on live video!

  This is what passes for truth in this country. Just like the Narmada Dam movement, the Gujarat riots has become stuff of urban legends. A complete self-sustaining industry has formed around them. The true victims of the riots will never know the obscene amount of wealth made on their blood and bones by the media and secular vultures.

  Shoma Chaudhury and Sankarshan Thakur really need to take it easy. Sample this: “A host of men go on national television and admit they have hacked and burnt and deformed other human beings — willfully, gleefully and confidently.”

 Really? They went on TV just like that? Willfully, gleefully and confidently?

 “But the eloquent visionary men who led us then pulled the country away from the madness of the Hindu fanatic and gifted us a nation that was sane and wise and inclusive. We could have gone another route. We could have been Pakistan.”Oh, thank God for small mercies!

 Conspiracy is an idler’s kaleidoscope, the more you turn the more new designs you see

 Keep turning dude, the ‘scope is all yours to turn till the cows home.”

 URL: http://barbarindians.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html 

   This was posted by barbarindian at 8:15 AM on 27 October 2007. There are many more things worth reporting. Haresh Bhatt said after the sting operation:“You know how these sting operations work. I was talking of something else and it has been construed and shown as something else. It is a political gimmick of those who are opposing us.”

  Babu Bajrangi said: “I don’t know who is taking my name and why. I did not lead any mob in Naroda Patiya. The sting operation shows me saying that I took a sword and cut open a woman’s womb. But I was trying to explain that the FIR filed against me accuses me of that act and that I deny it.”(The Indian Express dated 26 October 2007)

  So carried away were Tehelka and Aaj Tak by their Gujarat sting that they suffered the ides of February. B.P.Singhal writes in his article “Gujarat ka sach” in The Pioneer dated 29th October 2007- “Aaj Tak harped on the same old refrain that ‘Modi did not call the Army until three days had passed’. When the TV channel contacted me on phone to get my response, I told the anchor that the Godhra carnage took place on February 27, 2002, that the Hindu backlash commenced on February 28 and the Army was doing flag march on the forenoon of March 1… He cut me short by saying that ‘This is exactly what we had said, no action was taken by Modi on 29th, 30th and 31st thus giving three clear days to the murderers…’ I had to cut him short by reminding him that the date 28th was 28th of February 2002 and there were no 29th, 30th or 31st in that month. The phone was of course disconnected.”

   Now after the broadcast of this sting operation, one blogger who wrote a blog titled: “Why Modi should go” says in his blog:

  It is also true that most of the rioters haven’t directly named Modi–rather, they have implicated themselves. No doubt, Tehelka’s claim of “irrefutable proof” must be taken with the pinch of salt and it is quite likely that none of the evidence will stand the test in a court of law.”

 (URL: http://retributions.nationalinterest.in/why-modi-should-go/)

    And this same man advocated resignation of Narendra Modi. In a strongly anti-Narendra Modi article, he has confessed that Tehelka’s claim of irrefutable proof must be taken with a pinch of salt.

    On the internet was also posted: “First a look at the actors in the so called expose that the Tehelka is claiming was captured from a spy camera.

 Babu Bajrangi – in the entire script of the sting, this guy doesn’t implicate anyone but himself in the riots. This guy is considered the most important witness in the sting. With FIRs already filed and Bajrangi identified as a key accused what is the surprise here?
Rajendra Vyas – goes into great details of what he did in Godhra, again not a word directly implicating anyone but himself.
Ramesh Dave – chimes in on incidents on Godhra, implicates Rajendra Vyas and himself, not a word, despite being egged on by the Tehelka reporter, on directly attributing anything to Narendra Modi.
Madan Chawal – first says he saw VHP leaders, then says he did not VHP leaders by name and then claims that later on he remembered that he probably saw Atul Vaid, Bharat Teli. Implicates himself in Gulbarg incidents nothing to say about anybody else.
Prahlad Raju – implicates himself in Gulbarg incidents. Is egged on by Tehelka to implicate VHP and RSS. All he says that ‘Atul Vaid told me to move together”. Nothing more to say on anyone else.
Mangilal Jain – implicates himself in Gulbarg incidents. Is egged on by Tehelka to implicate Atul Vaid and Bharat Teli, he merely mentions after consistent egging by the interviewer that an Inspector Erda told him he had 2 to 3 hours.
Prakash Rathod, Suresh Richard – Implicate themselves in Naroda Patiya. Not a word implicating anyone else, making passing references to Narendra Modi visiting the site of incidents.
Dhimant Bhatt – The headlines says idea came from Modi, the detailed transcript says it was a meeting of local leaders but gives no names. This guy neither has a direct reference nor a direct statement to say on Modi or anybody else. Implicates himself.
Deepak Shah – Implicates himself and Dhimant, has nothing substantial to say except reeling out names of lawyers on the legal team.

Anil Patel – This guy does even better than the rest of them. Not only does he implicate himself but also implicates Congress workers. His 5 page sting transcript implicates people who are already accused and are out on bail. Has some hearsay conversations to report with Pravin Togadia nothing to suggest a conspiracy to riot, only suggestions on bailing out accused.

   All of them are accused and all of them implicated themselves and no one else directly. So that is Tehelka for you !  Now for some more incredible claims – bombs and rocket launchers that were never used.

Haresh Bhatt – Godhra MLA and riot accused makes incredible claims of ordering guns and other weapons for other states. Hard to believe stuff given how many days it takes for any truck to arrive from distant Punjab or Uttar Pradesh. He just goes on adding states to his list – Bihar, MP.
Dhawal Jayanthi Patel – shows of a dynamite factory, makes tall claims, has nothing to say about even one specific incident where bombs were used.
Anil Patel – This is the most laughable of the transcripts, the interviewer puts words into his mouth with a single question and all he replies is to confirm yes there are dynamite factories which supply explosives to Ahmedabad.

   Lot of sensational drivel about but none confirming a single incident where bombs were actually used. More bravado than anything else, what can one expect in “Tehelka”! The rest of the website is sensational drivel, regurgitating bits and pieces extracted from these transcripts with psychedelic fonts and images. Watching the manner in which Headlines Today is running this story on live television it just goes to highlight how out of control and irresponsible the sensationalism of ratings starved news channels has become.

   With this coming together sensational media which is constantly on the look out to manufacture headlines and left wing radicals out to push a fictitious version of the truth the need for a Right of Center Media in India has once again been highlighted.”

 URL: http://offstumped.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/tehelka-expose-on-gujarat-riots-offstumped-reaction/   

   On October 27, Arvind Pandya announced at a press conference that he had resigned as government counsel, and had filed criminal cases against Dhimant Purohit, correspondent of Aaj Tak, charging them with cheating, criminal conspiracy, breach of trust, fraud, trespass and breach of communal harmony. He contended that Purohit had offered him a role in a serial which the TV channel was purportedly producing and that he was captured on a hidden camera when he was reading from what had been given to him as a script for an audition test. The immediate result of Pandya’s legal action was that Purohit sought anticipatory bail!

    Despite knowing that Babu Bajrangi had said that: “The FIR says I slit open a pregnant woman’s womb” Tehelka tried to say that he had said: “I split open her womb”. Tehelka’s claims of having ‘irrefutable’ evidence are all baseless. It also shows that the intention of Tehelka is to try to nail the accused and hold them guilty by hook or by crook and not paint the reality. Now we have the doctor J S Kanoria’s report which proves that the womb was not ripped open at all! So, even if Bajrangi had indeed boasted that he committed the act, Tehelka should have cross-checked if this was indeed true, and the report of Dr Kanoria would have made it clear that they were boastful lies. Actually, they were not even boastful lies, he was totally denying the crime. What a criminal offence on Tehelka’s part!

      But it doesn’t end merely here. Tehelka also tried to concoct imaginary ‘provocations’ for Godhra and tried to say that Godhra was spontaneous- a result of altercations between karsewaks and Muslims at Godhra railway station. It also held the Gujarat government guilty for taking the position that Godhra was planned. It of course could not explain why and how 2,000 Muslims could have quickly reached Godhra railway station at 8 in the morning-having already managed to procure petrol bombs, acid bombs and swords and surround the train from both sides and prevent the karsewaks from running away and saving their lives when the train stops at Godhra only for 5 minutes.

    Even if, for argument’s sake, we assume that many of the confessions of the people interviewed are indeed true, how does that show that the Gujarat riots were a ‘genocide’ which Tehelka has claimed? Who killed the 254 Hindus in the Gujarat riots-a figure given by the UPA government’s MoS for Home Sriprakash Jaiswal in Parliament on 11 May 2005?

    Having read the whole reports of Tehelka on this matter, it is clear that Tehelka is not interested in bringing out the truth but interested in maligning the BJP and the Sangh Parivar. The fact is that even after Godhra, Muslims were equally on the offensive and killed hundreds of Hindus. How does Tehelka explain that? When the UPA government has given the figures of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus killed in the riots, with 223 people missing (Later many were found alive and now only 127 are missing) the maximum number of people killed in the riots, assuming all missing are dead would amount to 1171. Still, the Tehelka magazine’s editor claimed that 2,500 Muslims were killed in the riots in the first 3 days! In a population of 5.5 crore- 1171 deaths, both Hindu and Muslim, are no ‘pogrom’, despite this Tehelka continues to call the riots a pogrom.  There have been separate convictions of 80 Muslims for rioting and killing Hindus in the post-Godhra riots. The conviction of Muslims proves that Muslims were equally on the offensive. How does Tarun Tejpal call the riots a ‘pogrom’ when Muslims have been convicted?

   In the entire sting operation only two cases are discussed: the Ehsan Jafri case and the Naroda Patiya case, both of which are the only two cases of real large-scale anti-Muslim riots in the entire state apart from Sadarpura, Ode and Pandharwada. Tehelka has called the Gujarat riots a ‘genocide’ on the basis of only two cases. There have been several other cases of riots- Himmatnagar near Ahmedabad, Danilimda, Sindhi Market, Bhanderi Pole areas of Ahmedabad, and many other riots throughout Gujarat when Muslims were on the offensive and attacked Hindus. Has Tehelka bothered to investigate that and see the convictions of Muslims in those cases?

   Tarun Tejpal has written a lot about these ‘confessions’ aka boastful lies. No one has ever given any answers on the points which have been raised in this chapter about the sting operation. For the lies which have been spoken about the Gujarat riots, perhaps the concerned people deserve a jail sentence and a very very heavy fine, to be paid to Narendra Modi, Sangh Parivar and Indian security forces, because the lies are converting innocent Muslims into fanatics, besides tarnishing the image of India, and of Narendra Modi and the Sangh Parivar. As just an indictation of the resentment and infuriation caused among Muslims by this Tehelka broadcast, read this. Top leaders openly demanded death to the Gujarat CM Modi or arrest.

The SC-appointed SIT has also drawn conclusions similar to our’s in its report, which we have given in the book but not in the website. A reading of the book will reveal the SIT’s conclusions about this sting operation. To know the full details, read the book.

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    admin Says:

    @ADMIN

    Sir, I kindly request you to explain how is it possible that the statements of the various interviewed persons which say the same thing about the alleged role played by Chief Minister Modi, could be lies?

    You have not addressed this point which was very aptly brought in the discussion by another poster – Mr Sunil. Please answer to my question.

    Kind regards,
    Ashok

    Dear Mr Ashok,
    Please pin-point the charges on Narendra Modi which you think are the SAME made by various persons. Then we will judge them on merit. With a media propaganda against Modi for 5 years from 2002 to 2007, these people were boasting that they were big enough to know Modi. If you see, only 2 of the 14 caught on camera say that Modi visited Naroda Patiya after the carnage (that too when this point was asked by the question-asker “Didn’t Modi come to Patiya”). But one of them says that Modi on 28 Feb evening 7-7:30 pm while the other says that he came 1 day after, on 1 March. This contradiction is seen here also. Also it is common sense that it is impossible for Modi to have done that. We have records showing that Modi was addressing a press conference at Ahmedabad on the evening of both Feb 28 and March 1.
    Please pin-point the charge against Modi which you think was made by all those caught on camera, (same charge) and let us discuss it on merits.
    Thanks and regards,
    Admin

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    Ashok UNITED KINGDOM Says:

    @ADMIN

    Sir, I kindly request you to explain how is it possible that the statements of the various interviewed persons which say the same thing about the alleged role played by Chief Minister Modi, could be lies?

    You have not addressed this point which was very aptly brought in the discussion by another poster – Mr Sunil. Please answer to my question.

    Kind regards,
    Ashok

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    Australian Hindu AUSTRALIA Says:

    @ T Ahmed. Leaders of high ranks??????? Suresh Richard, ordinary accused- TOP LEADER? Babu Bajrangi- ordinary worker who left VHP. TOP LEADER?

    Most of those talking only implicated themselves. TOP LEADERS CAN ALSO INDULGE IN BOASTFUL LIES while talking to a man casually thinking him to write a book on Hindu school of thought in private not knowing that recording is going on. I have seen TOP LEADERS indulge in Absolute and blatant lies in private while casually talking. What happened in 2002 has to be seen on the basis of facts of 2002- not by what stray accused like Suresh Richard and Babu Bajrangi said casually to a man they thought was a VHP man indulging in boastful lies not knowing that recording is going on. This sting operation’s videos should be blocked from youtube and TEHELKA sued and prosecuted for inflammatory videos needlessly instigating Muslims and infuriating Muslims and publishing STARK LIES. When we have official records to show that Narendra Modi was at Ahmedabad’s Circuit House addressing a press conference on 28 Feb evening- TEHELKA will allege that he visited Naroda Patiya and patted the backs of accused! What trash! Such a ridiculous allegation will find no takers among sensible people, when it is impossible Modi to have done that.

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    t.ahmed BELGIUM Says:

    my dear friend
    you seem to accepts.that these leaders.of the high rank of yours RSS.VHP.PARTIES. are liars. it seems you have no problem. imagine ..if one these leader.lead your country in future.will you expect them to be honest

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    @ Sunil ji,
    As for unparliamentary language I will just like quote your original comment which was edited by us. The original comment was

    “I can just by reading this, i can challenge this website is directly or indirectly is connected with the sangh Parivar. By declaring that 1969 was worst riots you cannot avoid question on what the present goverment did, and present actions cannot be justified based on what happened in past. I think the killers of gandhi must be of opinion if some one takes your one eye, take his both eye and some how how this author appears to have same mentality shame on this post and shame on this author, I pity you, you seems brainwashed in the sangh camps. I can understand as misfourtunately even one of my friend was brainwashed by these gandhi-killers.”

    So you called RSS as Gandhi-killers which is incorrect on facts and for which a defamation case can be filed. We simply declared the 1969 riots as the worst, which is a fact, and do not and did not avoid questions on what the present government did, nor did we justify anything that happened in 2002. If you read our site, particularly “Myth 1″ you will find that we have said that not a single killing can be justified. We have utmost sympathies for all victims of the riots, Hindus as well as Muslims and the fact that 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus were killed is very unfortunate and condemnable. Despie this, You said that this author seems to have an “Eye for an eye” mentality, shame on the post and shame on the author. This is all irrelevant and incorrect. When we are open to corrections, and have said that any errors found will be corrected to use such words against us doesn’t seem to be right. Wasn’t it like calling us as THIEVES, MURDERS, FASCISTS (as if we are brainwashed by ‘Gandhi-killers’ :) )? There are many who keep posting abuses and un Parliamentary language (Such as … … etc etc). It was just a generalized statement on Parliamentary language.

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