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Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Myth 16: A pregnant woman’s womb was ripped open and fetus was taken out

Posted on May 18, 2010 - Filed Under 12-Concocted Lies and Myths by the media | 49 Comments

Fact: Dr J S Kanoria who carried out the post mortem of the woman, Kausarbanu on 2 March 2002 found that her womb was intact, and that she had died of burns suffered in the riots.

Weekly India Today dated 5 April 2010 reports:

“Significantly, in March 2003, the SC had stalled the trial of nine Gujarat riot cases, thanks to the relentless campaign by the human rights activists seeking justice for the Muslim victims. The riot victims said they won’t get justice as long as the Gujarat Government had a role in the police probe and the subsequent trial. The SIT is reinvestigating the cases under the virtual supervision of the apex court, with even the judges and public prosecutors being selected under the SC’s monitoring.

As the SIT goes about its task, more and more evidence is surfacing that the human rights lobby had, in many cases, spun macabre stories of rape and brutal killings by tutoring witnesses before the SC. In the process, it might have played a significant role in misleading the SC to suit its political objectives against Modi and his government.

Last week, one of the most horrible examples of cruelty resurfaced once again as the trial of the Naroda Patiya case, where 94 persons were killed, began in the SC-monitored special court in Ahmedabad. Soon after the riots, the human rights activists and the Muslim witnesses had alleged that a pregnant woman Kausarbanu’s womb was ripped open by rioters and the foetus was flung out at the point of a sword. The gruesome incident was seen as the worst-possible example of medieval vandalism in the modern age.

Last week, eight years after the alleged incident, Dr J.S. Kanoria, who conducted the post-mortem on Kausarbanu’s body on March 2, 2002, denied that any such incident had ever happened. Instead, he told the court: “After the post-mortem, I found that her foetus was intact and that she had died of burns suffered during the riot.” Later Kanoria, 40, told INDIA TODAY, “I have told the court what I had already written in my post-mortem report eight years ago. The press should have checked the report before believing that her womb was ripped open. As far as I remember, I did her post-mortem at noon on March 2, 2002.”

A careful study of the three police complaints, claiming that Kausarbanu’s womb was ripped open by the rioters, shows several loopholes. While one complaint accuses Guddu Chara, one of the main accused in the Naroda Patiya case, of ripping open Kausarbanu’s womb, extracting her foetus and flinging it with a sword; another complaint accuses Babu Bajrangi, yet another accused in the case, of doing the act. A third complaint, on the other hand, does not name the accused but describes the alleged act.

Modi will also have reasons to smile at the affidavits filed by the Muslim witnesses in the SC in 2003 at the behest of Citizens for Justice and Peace (CJP) and Teesta Setalvad on the basis of which the trial in nine cases were stalled for six long years. The most glaring hole is in the affidavit of Nanumiya Malek, a key witness in the Naroda Gam case. In his affidavit before the SC filed on November 15, 2003, Malek stated that a newly married woman called Madina, who lost four of her relatives, including her husband in the riots, had been raped by the rioters.

Malek’s affidavit states: “I was witness to the crimes of murder and rape that took place on Madina and her family. I also saw seven people being burnt alive, including four orphans. I request the SC to keep the details of this rape victim confidential since she is alive and use it only for the purpose of trial and conviction of the rapists.” But on May 5, 2009, in his statement before the SIT, Malek said: “I had wrongly claimed that Madina had been raped. I made the charge because of Teesta Setalvad’s pressure. I kept on telling her not to include that charge in my affidavit, yet it was included.”

In her statement before the SIT on May 20, 2008, Madina, who has remarried now, said: “The charge made by Malek claiming that I was raped by a riotous mob is false. I wasn’t raped. When the riotous mob put my house on fire, I tried to run but was attacked by a rioter who injured me with a knife. Later I managed to merge in a Muslim crowd.”

There are six other affidavits filed by different Muslim witnesses on November 15, 2003, that wantonly allege rape in the Naroda Gam and Naroda Patiya riot cases without giving any details. Interestingly, all the affidavits have a uniform language: “Over 110 persons were not simply killed, but raped and mutilated as well, including young children. We urge the SC to stay the trials and transfer them to a neighbouring state and also order fresh investigation.” The affidavits state that they had been filed at the behest of Setalvad and in the presence of her co-activist Rais Khan.

If this wasn’t enough, other glaring attempts by human rights activists to tutor witnesses have come to the fore. For example, soon after the Gulberg massacre in which Ehsan Jafri was killed, nearly a dozen Muslim witnesses told the police that Jafri had fired in self-defence, killed a rioter and injured 14 others. They also said that this led the mob to resort to violence and attack Muslims in Gulberg with vengeance. But almost half of them who deposed before the special court have retracted from this statement.

The statement of Imtiaz Pathan in the Gulberg trial also raises eyebrows. He told the special court that before being killed, Jafri told him that Narendra Modi abused him (Jafri) on phone when he sought protection during a mob attack. Incidentally, there is no record available of Jafri having made any call to Modi. Pathan didn’t name Modi in the first police statement he made soon after the riots. Interestingly, he has also identified as many as 27 individual attackers from a mob of thousands of rioters.

When the SIT started taking statements of witnesses in the Gulberg Society case, around 20 witnesses came with typed statements. But the SIT objected to it, citing Section 161 of the CRPC, saying that the police must record the statement of a witness. So when the SIT forced the witnesses to give their statement during the interrogation, there was a vast difference between the ‘readymade typed’ statements and the oral evidence that the police had received earlier.

As a senior lawyer defending the accused puts it: “The witnesses under the influence of the human rights activists didn’t allow videotaping of their statements while they were being recorded. There is an obvious attempt on the part of activists to dictate not just the SIT, but also the courts.” Last week, INDIA TODAY quizzed Setalvad about the charge of tutoring the witnesses and creating false evidence before the courts in the 2002 Gujarat riot cases.

Her response: “I am under no obligation to respond to your questions.

 

Credibility Gap

Then
In his petition before the SC, Nanumiya Malek, a key witness in the Naroda Gam case, says that a married woman called Madina had been raped by rioters.
Now
Malek later told the SIT that Madina’s rape was an accusation put forth at the behest of Teesta Setalvad. Madina also denied the charge.
Then
For the past eight years, human rights activists and Naroda Patiya victims have alleged that the rioters ripped open the womb of the pregnant Kausarbanu.
Now
Dr J.S. Kanoria, who conducted a post-mortem on Kausarbanu’s body, says she died of burns during the riot and that her womb was intact.
Then
While reinvestigating the Gulberg case, the SIT comes across nearly 20 witnesses who came with their readymade, typed statements to which the SIT objects.
Now
The Muslim witnesses refuse to videotape their statements. The statements that are recorded by the SIT do not match the readymade statements.
Then
Imtiaz Pathan, a key witness in the Gulberg case, tells the special court that Ehsan Jafri was abused by Modi when Jafri called the latter seeking his help during the riots.
Now
The SIT has not been able to find any evidence or a record of Ehsan Jafri making a phone call to Narendra Modi.
Then
In their 2003 SC petition, Muslim witnesses accused the rioters of raping women. As a result, the trials of nine major cases were stalled for over six years.
Now
In their statements made before the SC-appointed SIT, the witnesses haven’t accused the rioters of raping women.

This full report can be read by clicking here.

Just that this weekly India Today does not seem to remember that it itself also reported the blatant lie on ‘pregnant woman’s womb being ripped open’ in its issue dated 18 March 2002. Its not merely this report. Even a newspaper as biased as The Times of India- which falsely reported that Narendra Modi had said “Every action has equal and opposite reaction” and did not even publish the Chief Minister’s letter denying having said any such thing reported thus:

“Doc’s testimony nails lie in Naroda Patia fetus story

AHMEDABAD: One of the most gory stories of the Naroda Patia massacre, of how a pregnant woman’s womb was ripped open and the fetus dangled on the tip of a sword by the mob, before she was killed, has been busted by a testimony given by a government doctor.

 After 95 persons were killed on February 28, 2002 at Naroda Patia, stories were doing rounds that the killers had cut open eight-month pregnant Kausar Bano Shaikh’s womb, pulled out the fetus and killed her.

 Dr J S Kanoria, who conducted post-mortem on the woman’s body on March 2 (2002), told the special court on Wednesday, supported by documents, that he found the fetus intact. He said he was posted at Nadiad but called to the Civil Hospital following the emergency when he conducted the autopsy on an unidentified body, which was later identified as Kausar Bano.

 Kanoria showed his post-mortem report to the court saying he found the fetus intact in the woman’s womb itself. The fetus weighed 2,500 g and was 45 cm long. He mentioned about burn injuries in his post-mortem note, but was quiet on whether there was any other injury on the body.

 In April last year, the Gujarat government argued before the SC on this case after SIT submitted a report in a sealed cover. The government’s claim was that SIT had refuted charges that Kausar Bano’s fetus was pulled out of her womb and killed by sword before her eyes by violent mob. Senior counsel Mukul Rohatgi contended that such allegations levelled by an NGO were proved false by SIT report. (The Supreme Court-appointed SIT had already said in its report in April 2009 that there is no truth in the allegation that Kausar Bano’s womb was ripped open and foetus taken out. Note that this SIT was appointed by highly anti-Modi judges like Aftab Alam, Arijit Pasayat etc). Nearly a year later, the doctor, considered a neutral government witness, has deposed the same before the trial court.”

The link for the above report is:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Docs-testimony-nails-lie-in-Naroda-Patia-fetus-story/articleshow/5696161.cms

Perhaps the only other newspaper to even report Dr Kanoria’s statement in court was The Hindu. The Hindu too has lied and called the riots a ‘pogrom’, ‘genocide’ and ‘massacre’ of Muslims ever after the riots and published white lies on this subject on its edit page. But even it reported:

“Foetus was intact in Naroda-Patiya victim: doctor

Manas Dasgupta

 AHMEDABAD: The doctor who performed autopsy on the bodies of three victims of the Naroda-Patiya massacre during the 2002 communal riots in Gujarat has denied that the womb of a pregnant woman was slit open by the attackers.

 During cross-examination before special court judge Jyotsnaben Yagnik on Wednesday, Dr. J.S. Kanoria said he found the foetus in place in the womb of Kausarbanu Sheikh. As part of the post-mortem procedure, it was he who took the foetus out of the womb, the doctor said.

 It was widely alleged during the riots that the then State Bajrang Dal convener, Babu Bajrangi, had led a violent mob of activists, some of whom not only burnt alive local Muslims but also raped the pregnant woman, slit open her womb with a sharp-edged weapon and threw both the mother and the foetus into a fire.

 Dr. Kanoria admitted that he had found Kausarbanu’s body 100 per cent burnt. To a question by the public prosecutor, he did not rule out the possibility of her having been thrown alive into a fire by the attackers, resulting in her death, but disagreed with the claim that her womb was slit open.

 As a large number of bodies were arriving at the Ahmedabad civil hospital, Dr. Kanoria was specially summoned there from the Nadiad hospital and he conducted post-mortem on three bodies including that of a pregnant woman, who was later identified as Kausarbanu…”

The link for this report is:

http://www.hindu.com/2010/03/18/stories/2010031863801300.htm

   In the 2007 Tehelka sting operation also, Babu Bajrangi did not claim to slit open any womb. He was simply saying that “The FIR on me says that I cut open the womb, but I did not do so”. Tehelka lied that “Bajrangi ‘boasted’ slitting open the womb” which was blatant violation of law.

Even if he had said so in the sting operation, Tehelka should have checked if they are boastful lies or the truth. Since he was told that this is a private conversation between a man writing a book from the VHP point of view, he may have indulged in blatant empty lies, and so Tehelka should have cross-checked. Actually he did not even indulge in boastful lies here- he totally denied the crime.

Even in the judgment of Jyotsna Yagnik convicting Kodnani and Bajrangi on 29 August 2012, Jyotsna Yagnik’s judgment denied such an act. The Times of India reported:

 ”A decade later,the special court accepted that Kausarbanu was killed in the most ghastly manner by Bajrangi and his associates,but the story of bringing her fetus out and swirling it on tip of the sword is improbable and an exaggerated narration.


Designated judge Jyotsana Yagnik discussed in detail the possibility of such incident after evaluating testimonies of eyewitnesses,extra-judicial confession by Bajrangi and medical evidence.The judge concluded that both a 14-year-old witness Javed Shaikh and accused Bajrangi were not gynaecologists and they did not know anything about the possible situation when a nine-month pregnant womans belly was slit with a sword or a knife.


The court accepted evidence,though considered medical evidence quite diluted,and held that Kausarbanu was killed at the khancho near water tank,as described by witnesses and accused himself.However,The fetus could not be brought out,Kausarbanu died there along with fetus in her body,Kausharbanu and unborn child were burnt there, the order reads.


The court came to a conclusion that Bajrangi killed the woman,but the description was exaggerated.It must be understood that this is an observation of child of about 14-year-old then and that his perception to such ghastly occurrence would be little different then the adult man with all understanding, the court opined.


http://mobiletoi.timesofindia.com/mobile.aspx?article=yes&pageid=5&sectid=edid=&edlabel=TOIA&mydateHid=04-09-2012&pubname=Times+of+India+-+Ahmedabad&edname=&articleid=Ar00505&publabel=TOI

The tale of such concocted cooked up tales can go on and on and on. Because no one checked them- the activists and the stark liars went to unimaginable levels. Now it will need a great task to even list all their lies.

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49 Responses to “Myth 16: A pregnant woman’s womb was ripped open and fetus was taken out”

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  1. 20
    Deepak UNITED STATES Says:

    They say Congress wins elections because they appease the minorities.

    When BJP ans RSS religiously divide india, always make religious comments, are they not appeasing hindus??

    Yet only 20% population of india is minorties by any loose estimate (including illegal Bangladeshi’s), still out of 80% majority hindus, most trust CONGRESS, because they know corruption, haramkhori and naukarshahi is rooted deep in indian blood.

    It has nothing to do with congress or BJP. But they know, at national level, BJP is only capable of getting india into economic sanctions and isolation from its neighbors.

    BJP’s next generation is RAHUL MAHAJAN (a druggie son) and VARUN GANDHI (ill mannerred and religious fanatic).

    Congress’s future leaders include RAHUL GANDHI, Alka Lamba and so on…

    People make their judgment not based on propaganda. NO ONE gives into stupid debates like CONGRESS HAS LOOTED india for 50 years, because if that was the case, people in India would be like Pakistanis, not enjoying in clubs, parties and all over. Poverty is a true fact in india, but BJP is not a magic party that it can eliminate poverty in 5 years.

    BJP and its ideology only works by arousing emotions, not by imparting wisdom, for the fact if any of its leaders ever had any wisdom, they would have been accepted at the national stage.

    They call congress soft on pakistan, if I recall, it was VAJPAYEE who was shaking hands with MUSHARRAF in agra while they were planning to kill us in kargil…it was ADVANI who went to put his head on JNNAH’s grave, and they call congress pro-pakistan…Yea right!!

    India, make sure these terrorist never get to rule thiws country, because they will divide you on the name of religion. THe more they say hindu hindu, the truth is there is no benefit in being so extreme and hating your own fellow citizens.

    Just look at how these site owners talk about ISMAL, CHRISTIANITY. They clearly think hinduism is such a wonderful religion, and others are fake, so what is the difference between them and ISLAMIC terrorist? they do the same thing? A person who cannot understand the fact thaT RELIGION IS JUST A MERE WAY OF LIVING LIFE, they cannot be a truet to any cause.

    These people like KEDIA and MANTRI change names and try to prove that mythlogical stories about gods and so on are 100% fact?? lol I do not disrespect the religious feelings, but common, how can anyone deny the evolution, scientifically proven.

    Please, please do not give into these fanatic statements. Truth is out there, and we need to know it before these monsters get to it!

  2. 19
    Indian in KSA Says:

    HOW HAS THE GUJARAT MASSACRE AFFECTED
    MINORITY WOMEN ?

    THE SURVIVORS SPEAK

    Main Findings of the Women’s Panel:

    - The pattern of violence does not indicate “spontaneous” action. There was pre-planning, organization, and precision in the targeting.

    - There is compelling evidence of sexual violence against women. These crimes against women have been grossly underreported and the exact extent of these crimes – in rural and urban areas – demands further investigation. Among the women surviving in relief camps, are many who have suffered the most bestial forms of sexual violence – including rape, gang rape, mass rape, stripping, insertion of objects into their body, stripping, molestations. A majority of rape victims have been burnt alive.

    - There is evidence of State and Police complicity in perpetuating crimes against women. No effort was made to protect women. No Mahila Police was deployed. State and Police complicity in these crimes is continuing, as women survivors continue to be denied the right to file FIRs. There is no existing institutional mechanism in Gujarat through which women can seek justice.

    - The impact on women has been physical, economic and psychological. On all three fronts there is no evidence of State efforts to help them.

    - The state of the relief camps, as mothers struggle to keep their children alive in the most appalling physical conditions, is indicative of the continued abdication of the State’s responsibilities.

    - Rural women have been affected by communal violence on this scale for the first time. There is a need for further investigation into the role played by particular castes/communities in rural Gujarat in unleashing violence.

    - There is evidence that the current carnage was preceded by an escalation of tension and build-up by the VHP and the Bajrang Dal.

    - There is an alarming trend towards ghettoisation of the Muslim community in rural areas for the first time.

    - Sections of the Gujarati vernacular press played a dangerous and criminal role in promoting the violence, particularly in provoking sexual violence against women.

    http://cac.ektaonline.org/resources/reports/womensreport.htm

  3. 18
    Summons to Modi's confidant puts Gujarat government in a spot UNITED STATES Says:

    The Narendra Modi government in Gujarat is in a spot following the summons issued to Minister of State for Home Amit Shah in connection with the Sohrabuddin Sheikh fake encounter case.

    Prashanth Dayal, the journalist who broke the story in 2005, told rediff.com that Shah, who is Modi’s most trusted aide in the government, “is not likely show up even after the second summons has been issued. It is clear that the minister is likely to avoid the Central Bureau of Investigation, and the agency will be forced to issue a third summons.”

    The Gujarat government has been shaken up by this new turn of events. It is to be seen, before their legal options run out, if Modi will seek Shah’s resignation or not. Dayal claims that “the CBI has in its possession ample evidence against Shah to prove his involvement in the case.”

    So far, what the CBI has claimed to the media, in off the record briefings, is that there are telephonic conversations and supportive statements from the arrested accused in the case to establish that Shah nurtured a gang of 25 police officers to undertake such work

    It is also evident that this was a fake encounter; the Gujarat government has itself admitted so before the Supreme Court.

    Rajasthan’s powerful marble lobby, which complained of extortion by Sohrabuddin, was behind the fake encounter, Dayal claims.

    He, however, feels that Modi will dillydally over Shah’s resignation. The minister is his troubleshooter and if at all he is removed from office, it will be very hard to find a replacement. Also, it is not possible that Shah acted on his own in 2005, when Modi was so powerful.

    The government in Gujarat is in disarray over this development and shaken. However, once the third summons is issued, there will be no option for Modi but to seek Shah’s resignation because after the interrogation if some prima facie evidence is found, the CBI can arrest him.

    However, Shah is a product of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh culture and it is unlikely that he will drag his boss Modi into the case although it is believed that the CM was aware of it.

    Observers say that while Shah will feel let down by Modi, he will not take on the latter as in that case outside help from the party and RSS cadres will be lost.

  4. 17
    Ramesh AUSTRALIA Says:

    And now, my questions:
    1- If what this site says is a lie, then how come no one in the whole world has come forward and refuted it at any place except for Jaffar Mohammad (and we saw what kind of arguments he gave)?

    2- Why are those who are very active in these riots cases and who have repeatedly called Narendra Modi a ‘mass murderer’ like Teesta Setalvad, Pamela Philipose, etc HIDING IN THEIR RATHOLES and NOT RESPONDING TO DEBATE INVITATIONS?

    3- Forget the laymen-Ordinary people are not scholars- but what about the anti-Hindu fanatics who have written papers on this issue, like Harsh Mander, Teesta Setalvad and FALSE REPORT writers like K Subramanium, Arundhati Roy absolutely quiet and have no answer to any of these arguments?

    4- Let us say, BJP and Sangh Parivar people are fools (which they indeed are, to not take legal action against media and political opponents)- how does that refute this site’s arguments?

  5. 16
    Ramesh AUSTRALIA Says:

    Answers
    1- BJP/RSS people are too soft and dont have self-confidence to file defamation cases. They also fear that Congress has bought all judges and put members of its legal cell in the judiciary.
    Just because they didnt file defamation cases doesnt mean this information is wrong. On the contrary, if this information was not true, HOSTILE UPA GOVT WOULD NOT SPARED MODI and in 2004 itself would have tried to hang him. But because, all this is true, no one has ever been able to prove anything against Modi.
    But yes, I agree with you fully that they should file cases. I have said this many many times to those idiots- both in India and also Australia.

    2- You should read what Ram Madhav said after that sting operation. Any stray man talking nonsense (like a drunkard)- how does that indict RSS leader Indresh Kumar? Anyone will say anything- how can a third person be blamed for that? And by the way, Ram Madhav told Headlines Today that RSS is thinking of legal action. Luckily, RSS filed some cases against Sitaram Kesri and other Congress leaders in the past- and won.

    3- Cases being transfered out of the state and what happened int he 2002 riots are different things. And most of the cases are in Gujarat only. Only 2 cases were shifted out- Best Bakery and Bilkis Bano. And in Gujarat also, many Hindus were convicted for rioting. On 14 Dec 2005 and 30 October 2007 Hindus were convicted.

    4- Absolutely right on BJP. A section of BJP itself is against Modi and hence do nothing. BJP however has criticized media for its reporting on this issue. Ravishankar Prasad has done that, and the then BJP chief Krishnamoorthy had also said this- on record.
    BJP people are too soft to think of defamation cases. The IDIOTS WILL SUFFER HORRIBLY but never be firm and assertive.
    By the way- these 4 points raised by you do not even address anything said in this site and refute it on any point. This site simply quotes UPAs figures of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus- if you think they are wrong, you should say they are wrong, but you shouldnt say that this site is lying- because it is NOT A LIE BUT A FACT that UPA govt gave these figures. Same is the case with all other reports quoted here. They are quoted from anti-BJP sources like The Hindu, Hindustan Times, Times of India etc. If an anti-BJP source says something in favor of Modi, it must be true, (though may not be wholly true)for ex: The Hindu said that on 28 Feb 2002 10 Hindus were shot dead in Ahmedabad. But it did not mention the WHOLE TRUTH, that 26 were also injured and 2 were killed OUTSIDE AHMEDABAD in Nadiad and Godhra. It also did not mention that 2,000 tear gas shells were fired that day and that police arrested 700 people. This shows that when biased anti-BJP people say something in favor of Modi, then it must be true, though not fully true.

  6. 15
    Deepak UNITED STATES Says:

    lol…

    asking us to challenge points raised on this ite. If these are facts, then:

    1.Why have not BJP/RSS filed defamatory cases against hundreds of people who are blaming them for mass genocide??

    2. Why is RSS leaders sleeping like HIJRAS when so many stings have been done to show the truth?/ the best they can do is attack a TV station office.

    3. If there is proof of everything said on this is true, then why are cases being tried outside GUJARAT, and criminals being sentenced to life in prison?

    4. Why has BJP not openly in public attacked the media and taken legal action?? all they do is stand on a stage and bark jai hingi hai hind …main hindu main hindu.

    The fact is more hindus are secular than more hindus are extremist like TAGODIA, BHAGWATT , ADVANI, MODI and same seeds…inlucing next genration slaves like MANTRI and KEDIA…

    Youth in india is misghuided, but there r every less, most use open judgment and look at a crime for crime, not try to justify it as revenge and causuality and bullshit.

    MAOIST are killing hundreds of peple everyday in india, where are the hindus now?? why have not hindus in chattisgarph , orrisa and AP come on streets to burn maoist and rape their women??

    Because these killings are done by goons, politically motivated by use on uneducated, illmannered, digusting class of citizens, which surprisingly form amjority of sangh parivar.

    Even thier sister parties are fukll of goons like SHIV SENA, MNS and so on..all goondas, useing only religion as tool, no talk to development of innovation.

    Oh by the way, RSS THE POWEERFUL, do something about ram mandir, MASJID TO GIRA DI, MANDIR TUIMHARE PAPA AKE BANAYEGE KYA?? lolzzz

  7. 14
    Ramesh AUSTRALIA Says:

    Shame on Indian in KSA. What a matter of shame that in the whole world no one has until now refuted (or even tried to refute) any point raised by this site. Jaffar Mohammad tried to say something, but what an amateur he was! And your so-called secularist people like teesta Setalvad, Burkha Dutt etc are hiding in their ratholes, and refusing to debate with this site, or answer any of its points. thats all COWARDS and LIARS like Indian in KSA can do. They can only abuse, condemn, criticize baselessly, but they cannot disprove a single point raised by this site.

  8. 13
    Ramesh AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Indian in KSA
    If that is the case, why dont you pin-point a single lie and prove it wrong? This site is open for correction, and if any information is found to be untrue, it will be changed. The fact is YOU ARE FULL OF LIES calling a site like this as full of lies and you are closed-minded.
    Muslims are also challenged like this, on various sites like http://www.faithfreedom.org But they keep accusing Ali Sina of this site of being a Jew, a Christian etc and never answer any of his points. They keep saying he quotes passages ‘out of context’ but never tell the ‘true’ context. If you are so convinced that these are all lies, why not disrpove them?
    http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
    And let us say that this site is indeed a slave of Modi. Why should that matter? Arguments have to be refuted on facts- not by who is saying them.

  9. 12
    Indian in KSA SAUDI ARABIA Says:

    This website is full of LIES that are cooked-up by the Slaves of Modi… shame on the LIARS…

  10. 11
    Deepak Says:

    No wonder why poor Indians in autralia are killed everyday!! JAHAN TERE JAIE ULLU KE PATTHEY RAHENGE, WAHA AUR KYA HOGA??

    If your so called community is well awake in australia, then its time to lose your slave attitude and rise above the culture. Stop defaming hinduism by going to foreign lands, making money and then sending that money back home for terrorism. KUCH KAR, KUCH BAN, ABE APNA NAHI TO APNE MAA BAAP SOCH .lolzzzz

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