Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

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  1. 30
    Ramesh Mantri AUSTRALIA Says:

    And as for Zakir Naik listen to what clerics of Islam have to say about him.

  2. 29
    Ramesh Mantri AUSTRALIA Says:

    And as for you Deepak- (SLAVE OF ISLAM and USA) HAREN PANDYA ACCUSED MODI OF giving instructions to police to be inactive MONTHS AFTER THE MEETING- AFTER HE HIMSELF FELL OUT WITH MODI.
    You have to judge what Modi did not by what one disgruntled man said- but by WHAT GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY DID- POLICE FIRED 1,000 on the first day and killed 10 Hindus in Ahmedabad, 2 outside Ahmedabad. Police saved thousands of Muslims in Sanjeli, Bodeli and Viramgam. And of course VITTHAL PANDYA has no credibility- he has called the riots a ‘genocide of Muslims’ and “thousands of Muslims were killed” when the fact is that there was no genocide and 790 Muslims were killed. Pandya also quoted Modi as saying- “Every Muslim is a traitor”- had Modi really said that- the whole media would have gone downtown with it. YOGINDER SIKAND IS A HORRIBLY ANTI-BJP man.

    This website is by no means a slave of Modi- it actually criticized BJP and Modi for MISERABLY FAILINGTO BRINGOUT THE TRUTH OF THE RIOTS- and not suing Tehelka for crores of rupees despite evidenceof its crimes.

    QURAN 3:151
    Quran 9:5
    Quran 22:19-22

  3. 28
    Ramesh Mantri AUSTRALIA Says:

    THESE VERSES IF THE BHAGWAD GEETA ARE ONLY FOR FIGHTING KAURAVAS who were evil people. They had Duryodhan who misbehaved withDraupadi and tried to disrobe her. Arjuna was SHYING FROMHIS DUTY as a warrior to fight EVIL- and all these quotaions from Geeta are merely to inspire ARJUN to FIGHT EVIL PEOPLE LIKE KAURAVAS.
    As for the Quranic passages- you first answer what is “out of context” in this passage- by reading the debate below:

    You outrageous claim that GEETA CONTAINS MORE VIOLENCE than Quran is rubbish. Geeta only talks of self-defence- and that too against evil people. ISLAM CLASSIFIES HUMANS as 2 people:

    Nowhere in the Geeta does Krishna advocated the punishment that is promised to non-Muslims in 22:19-22 in Quran- viz- boiling water onheads, roasting bodies, inserting hooked iron rods.
    Chapter 3 Verse 151 of the Quran (Striking terror in hearts of disbelievers) what is the context and meaning of this?
    Chapter 22 Verses 19-22- what is the context and meaning of this?

    THIS WEBSITE IS 100 % right. This website is NOT ABOUT QURAN, VITTHAL PANDYA or HAREN PANDYA. Let us- for argument’s sake assume that karsewaks had indeed kidnapped a girl. That doesnt mean Muslims have a right to kill 25 women and 15 children. What was the fault of these 25 women and 15 children? As as for this site- on the issue of the post-Godhra riots- if you can refute a single argument in a scholarly manner- NOT IN YOUR LIER ISLAMIC MANNER (ALLEGING KIDNAPPING OF A GIRL whose story had several loopholes- the site will make changes accordingly.
    I am waiting for you to tell me the CONTEXT of 9:5, 3:151, 22:19-22. This page answeingchristianity given by you is a most pathetic attempt to refute Ali Sina. A much better refutation was attempted by scholars Ghamidi and his disciple from Pakistan. For dealing with a man as scholarly and wise as ALI SINA you Muslims need beter than these bunch of amateurish debators- and more men like Ghamidi. This Ali Sina exposed linkis one the most pathetic attempts- what about his dozen charges against Muhammad quoting Quran, and Hadith?
    In any case- YOU MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT IDOLATOTS ARE FOOLS, WORSHIPING GOD IN THE FORM OF AN IDOL is equal to worshipping someone else other than God- and the JEALOUS GOD will throw us all in Hell for worshipping MUD, STONEs, STATUES instead of idols.Quran chapter 4 Verse 48 says:
    “Allah forgives everything- but not setting partners upon him”. So a Muslim murderer can be forgiven, but Mahatma Gandhi will burn in Hell forever- because he was a polytheist according to Islam.
    If indeed God is jealous and punishes the false religion followrs, Muslims will be the first to go to Hell- for worshipping a man like Muhammad as a Prophet and sticking to Islam despite knowing the HUNDREDS of contradictions in the QURAN. Read 32:5 and 70:4 to know one such contradiction.

    Also- Hindus have not killed crores of Muslims, carried out terrorist attacks worldwide like 9/11 and more than 12,000 after that worldwide or imposed JIZYAH TAX.

  4. 27
    Ramesh Mantri AUSTRALIA Says:

    You Muslims who worship a rapist of a man who raped the prettiest women he captured in war-like the Jewish Safiyah after killing her father and husband as a “prophet” of God will believe all rubbish- such as the ludicrous claim that Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was ‘badly defeated.’ You will also believe nonsense that Muhammad split the moon, walked upto Allah etc You will also believe that Ali Sina is not accepting the debate with Zakir Naik- hiding the fact that ALI SINA HAS PROMISED TO COME TO MUMBAI IN A LIVE DEBATE IF DR ZAKIR NAIK FIRST DEFEATS HIM IN A WRITTEN ONE. This simple question you Muslims cannot answer is- “WHAT CAN ZAKIR NAIK SAY IN A TV DEBATE LIVE THAT HE CANNOT SAY IN WRITING?” Zakir Naik the bluffmaster has long lost all credibility- only SLAVES OF RAPIST MUHAMMAD, like you (DEEPAK-slave of Pakistan and Bangladesh- and Islam). To know how hollow Zakir Naik is- just look at his stupid answer on youtube to the question “WHO CREATED GOD?”
    WHO CREATED THIS ALL POWERFUL ALLAH? And why didnt this Allah reveal how he came into existence in any of His Revealations- such as Old Testmanent or Quran?

    As for Godhra- you quoted selected parts of the forensic lab report. Of course the height of the train was too high to throw petrol from outside because it was burnt AT SIGNAL FALIA not platform. This doesnt mean that Muslims did not do it.
    By the way- this TEHELKA magazine has also admitted that MUSLIMS ROASTED THE TRAIN- only it tried to give provocation as kidnapping of a girl etc and call it a ‘spontaneous
    act’. They forgot to tell-
    1- If Godhra was planned- it was worse than 9/11
    2- If it was spontaneous, it was EVEN WORSE

    Mr Abdul- once you say that VHP torched the train- at the other place you say that “What can ‘villagers’ (who were actually town people)be expected to do when their daughter is kidnapped”? (that is you admit that Muslims did it- but whats wrong? After all the girl was kidnapped)

    Actually- there is no point in talking to you people. By the way- you SLAVE OF RAPIST PEDOPHILE WOMANIZER MUHAMMAD what is your evidence that VHP TORCHED THE TRAIN? NOT EVEN YOUR ISI-PAID TEHELKA HAS ACCUSED VHP OF TORCHING THE TRAIN.

    As for VITTHAL PANDYA- the old man seems to have lost his balance and his anger against NARENDRA MODI for not giving Haren Pandya a ticket has led him to speak out- or maybe some liers like Deepak, you and Tehelka and Congress have PAID VITTHAL PANDYA to speak against Modi.

    By the way- holding Modi “GUILTY” even after MUSLIMS have been CONVICTED is CONTEMPT OF COURT and DEFAMATION.

  5. 26
    Deepak Says:

    Ramesh Mantri,


    The real point is not about who killed PANDYA, the point is how come he was killed just days after he made that statement?? If I was a muslim, I would rather protect this man so he could frame modi?? no??


    First Indian kings and mughals have us like slave, then Britishers have us like slaves, and now EXTREMIST AND CORRUPT POLITICIANS have us like slave. So what that you live abroad, you still love to be a slave blind folded just because you think your religion is in danger… Dumb fool, if you want to protect hinduism, then leave foreign land, join the army and take a BULLET in your chest.


  6. 25
    Abdul SAUDI ARABIA Says:

    @All Indians: One of the Biggest Lies published in this website is to say that – Narendra Modi is an innocent man. The title of this website says – ‘Gujarat Riots – The True Story’, this is again a LIE because the title must be – ‘Gujarat Riots Story – Prepared by the Slaves of Modi’

    And please read the answers from Vithabhai Pandya (father of Haren Pandya) below. He was interviewed by a person named Yoginder Sikand (Professor at the Centre for Jawahar Lal Nehru Studies) to uncover the truth of Modi.

    The Truth of Haren Pandya case:

    79-year old Vithalbhai Pandya is the father of the slain former Gujarat Home Minister, Haren Pandya. In this interview with Yoginder Sikand he talks about his struggle against Gujarat’s Chief Minister Narendra Modi, who, he believes, was the man behind his son’s
    murder three years ago. He also reflects on the anti-Muslim carnage of 2002 in Gujarat and the dangerous rise of Hindutva fascism, which he sees as a sin against Hinduism.

    Interview of Vithalbhai Pandya by Yoginder Sikand

    Q: If, as you say, Modi was responsible for your son’s death, how do you think he should be dealt with?

    A: Modi, as is well known, has been responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Muslims in Gujarat. I also believe that he was responsible for the murder of my son. In that case, shouldn’t he be
    punished in the same way as those who are sentenced for murder? What Modi has done, being responsible for the murder of more than 3000 people, is an enormous sin in the eyes of God. Justice demands that he should meet the same fate that he has meted out to the thousands of people who have lost their lives. But that has not happened. The law has not been allowed to take its course. The thousands of Muslims whose relatives were killed in the carnage and I as well, as
    Haren’s father, have been deliberately denied justice and Modi continues to rule as the Chief Minister of Gujarat. What sort of democracy is this? If Modi’s fascist dictatorship remains unchecked and if he goes unpunished, I fear the cancer that he is breeding will spread all over India. Modi is worse than mass murderers like Hitler and Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia. His government should have been dismissed long time ago if we are serious about democracy and
    justice. If I had my way, I would have sought international summons issued against him for his crimes against humanity.

    Modi claims to be a protector of Hinduism but all this is just a trick. He curries favour with Hindu religious leaders to get Hindu votes, but he has no real faith in God his heart. A decade ago, the
    well-known scholar Ashish Nandy met Modi when the latter was an RSS-pracharak. Nandy then wrote an article in the ‘Seminar’ journal describing Modi as ‘a textbook case of a fascist and a prospective killer, perhaps even a future mass murderer’. And that is a fact. Last year I sent a letter to the President of India, Abul Kalam, in which I quoted Modi as declaring that ‘Every Muslim of this country is a traitor and expected terrorist’. I asked the President what he, as a Muslim, had to say about this. I urged him to take stiff action against Modi for this inhuman and anti-national statement and for the genocide of Muslims that he had engineered. But no action has been taken. Such is the state of this so-called ‘democratic’ country that claims to be the largest ‘democracy’ in the world.

    Q: Whom do you hold responsible for Haren Pandya’s death?

    A:. I am convinced and have reason to believe that Narendra Modi, whom I call a psychic mass killer, was the person behind Haren’s death. Haren, my only son, was found dead in Ahmedabad on 26 March 2003. He was just 42 when he was killed. From day one I have been
    insisting that Haren was murdered on the orders of Modi and that is was a politically motivated crime arranged at Modi’s behest. The CBI investigation into his murder is, I have been repeatedly alleging but to no avail, not being conducted in a transparent manner,
    free from political interference. My appeals about this continue to go unheeded. A fair investigation can only happen when Modi is removed from the office of Chief Minister, which he continues to occupy even three years after launching a deadly carnage that took
    the lives of more than 3000 innocent Muslims. As in Haren’s murder case, justice remains a far cry for the Muslim victims of the genocide.

    Q: Some people claim that Haren Pandya was killed by
    some Muslim youth. What do you feel?

    A: The claim that the instigators of my son’s death were some Muslim youth from Hyderabad is, I believe, completely false. It is a sly way of denying Modi’s hand in the affair and to shift the blame onto hapless Muslims and to spread anti-Muslim hatred. The case of my son’s death should be carried out in public because the public has the right to know the truth. But, the inquiry is being conducted in camera, and I think this is simply in order to save Modi’s skin. Haren was a victim of Modi’s political intrigue and innocent Muslims should not be arrested, harassed or blamed, as they have been, for his killing.

    Q: If, as you claim, Modi was behind Haren’s death, why do you think he wanted him out of his way?

    A: Modi saw Haren as a major challenge to his authority and viewed him as his main political rival. He may have felt that by doing away with Haren he could silence all other rivals, within and without the
    BJP, because they would be too scared to speak out against him. There was growing dissatisfaction in BJP ranks in Gujarat with Modi and so the message that was probably sought to be sent out was that those who dared to speak out against Modi would meet the same
    fate. Modi detested Haren for his uprightness. When Haren was the state revenue Minister he took stern action against land-sharks, including some of Modi’s cronies, who had illegally acquired properties worth crores of rupees and this Modi could not stomach.

    Another factor behind Haren’s killing, I believe, was his clear-cut moral position on the murder of thousands of Muslims following the burning of the train carriage in Godhra on 27 February 2002. Haren
    believed that the Godhra incident should be limited to Godhra alone and should not be used, as Modi did, to spread murder all over Gujarat. He was opposed to Modi’s use of the Godhra incident to launch an anti-Muslim genocide and to garner Hindu votes. He was
    vehemently opposed to Modi’s fascist agenda. He told me, in great anguish, that he heard of a confidential meeting apparently held by Modi and attended by some ministers, senior bureaucrats and police officers on 27 February 2002, in which, he said, Modi instructed
    police officials to remain inactive in the face of the anti-Muslim carnage that was launched with active state connivance the next day. Haren very specifically mentioned before the Iyer Commission that Modi had set off this anti-Muslim genocide. Modi did not like
    Haren’s opposition to the genocide. Haren told me that Modi asked him to apologise but he refused to. This further added to Modi’s hatred for Haren and made him, I believe, conspire to have him killed.

  7. 24
    Abdul SAUDI ARABIA Says:


    Do you know why every country keeps the Police ? It is to catch criminals and fight against them right? Thats the same thing what the quran says – Fight against EVIL DOERS in SELF DEFENSE.

    So let me play your favorite game – Quoting a religious scripture OUT-OF-CONTEXT.

    Fighting prescribed in the Hindu scripture Bhagavad Gita as follows:

    a. All the major religions of the world have prescribed fighting, at sometime or the other, especially in self-defence or for fighting against oppression.

    Mahabharata is an epic and sacred Scripture of the Hindus, which mainly deals with a fight between the cousins, the Pandavas and the Kauravas. In the battlefield Arjun prefers not to fight and be killed rather than having his conscience burdened with the killing of his relatives. At this moment, Krishna advises Arjun in the battlefield and this advice is contained in the Bhagvad Gita. There are several verses in the Bhagvad Gita where Krishna advises Arjun to fight and kill the enemies even though they are his relatives.

    b. It is mentioned in
    The Bhagvad Gita Chapter 1 verse 43-46

    (43) O Krishna, maintainer of the people, I have heard by disciplic succession that those who destroy family traditions dwell always in hell”

    (44) “Alas, how strange it is that we are preparing ourselves to commit great sinful acts, driven by the desire to enjoy royal happiness.”

    (45) I would consider better for the sons of Dhritarashtra to kill me unarmed and unresisting rather than fight with them.

    (46) “Arjuna, having thus spoken, cast aside his bow and arrow, and sat down on the chariot, his mind, overwhelmed with grief”.

    c. Krishna further replies in
    Bhagvad Gita Chapter 2 Verse 2, 3

    2. “My dear Arjuna, how have these impurities come upon you? They are not at all befitting a man who knows the progressive values of life. They lead not to higher planets but to infamy.

    2. “O son of Partha, do not yield to this degrading impotence. It does not become you. Give up such petty weakness of heart and arise, O chastiser of the enemy!”

    When Arjuna prefers to be killed unarmed and unresisting rather than fight and kill his cousins Kauravas, Krishna replies to Arjun by saying how this impure thought has come to you which prevents you from entering heaven. Give up this degrading Impotence and weakness of heart and arise, O defeater of enemy.

    d. Krishna further says in
    Bhagvad Gita Chapter 2 verse 31-33

    31. “Considering your specific duty as a Kshatriya, you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles, so there is no need for hesitation.”

    32. “O Partha, happy are the Kshatriya to whom such fighting opportunities come unsought, opening for them the door of the heavenly planets”.

    33. “If however, you do not fight this religious war, then you will certainly incur sin, for neglecting your duties, and thus loose your reputation as a fighter”.

    e. There are hundreds of verses in the Bhagvad Gita alone, which encourages fighting and killing, many times more as compared to such verses in the Qur’an.

  8. 23
    Abdul SAUDI ARABIA Says:

    Mr Ramesh, in order to punish someone, in the court of law substantial evidence is required. Where is the evidence to prove that muslims burned the train? Forensic experts have stated that the fire started from inside the train, not from outside. And it is very apparent to know who was inside the train to start the fire. The kidnapped girl was yelling and shouting for help, so the muslim villagers reacted with stones, not with fire. Dont act like a kid to keep on repeating that there were 25 women and 15 children and they could not kidnap anyone. Your own karsevaks were responsible for the train burning, not the women or children. Compartment no S-6 two other compartment of the Sabarmati Express was carrying the kar sevaks of the V.H.P. And it was due to these kar kevaks from Compartment no S-6 that the incident occurred.

    If you have read my previous message, it is crystal clear that ISLAM condemns killing innocents. Muslims only attack in self defense, for example when you kidnap their daughters infront of them, you will face retaliation. In the same manner, at first they asked those karsevaks to leave the girl, but instead of returning back the girl, those V.H.P cowards just shut the doors and windows of the compartment. Even though the shameless cowards of V.H.P. committed such a crime of kidnapping a girl, we muslims as a whole CONDEMN burning the train which resulted in the death of innocent people.

    Dont think that your bribed and false testimonies of the Nanavati commission can fool every tom, dick and harry.

    Moreover, THE GUJARAT FORENSIC Laboratory report was filed on May 17, 2002. It concluded several things:

    • THERE WERE ENOUGH high impact marks on the side of the train to uphold eyewitness and survivors accounts of intense stone pelting.

    • CONTRARY TO THE theories floating around till then, coach S-6 could not have been burnt by inflammable liquid thrown through the window or the door.

    • THERE WAS NO sign of corrosive fluid, like acid, in the fire (contrary to what several karsevaks had claimed).

    • SEVERAL SAMPLES WERE collected from both outside and inside the coach on February 27 and 28, 2002, respectively. DB Talati, Assistant Director, FSL, reported traces of petro-hydrocarbons in 25 of these samples, while 20 samples had no such trace.

    • SIGNIFICANTLY, IN HIS report dated April 26, 2002, Talati stated that he could not say whether the petrol traces in the 25 samples matched the petrol sample from Kalabhai’s petrol pump (from where the conspirators allegedly bought their petrol). Further, a huge sample —370 kgs — taken from S-6 on May 1, 2002, yielded no trace of petrol.

    • HAVING DEMOLISHED EXISTING theories on the cause of fire, the forensic team curiously deci ded to conduct an experiment through which they claimed to prove that the fire had been set off by a huge quantity of INFLAMMABLE LIQUID poured along the FLOOR of coach S-6. This conclusion set the police and party machinery off in a new direction.

    Dr Zakir Naik replied to the anonymous Ali Sina to have a debate on stage infront of public but this person refused. Why does’nt he approach the IRF in Mumbai face-to-face? Indeed, the best forms of dialogues cannot be done on the internet, you have to be present on stage addressing an audience of more than 1000 at least. No wonder, your spiritual guru – Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was badly defeated.

    The anonymous Ali Sina – a coward (who keeps hiding so that people cannot see him), is already refuted dozens of times. One of the refutations is shown in this link:

  9. 22
    Ramesh Mantri AUSTRALIA Says:

    And as for Haren Pandya’s murder:

    He was also alleged to have been involved in the riots- so Muslims killed him. THE COURTS HAVE DECLARED MUSLIMS GUILTY IN THE CASE- but Deepak will not believe it. Those who want to plant stories against Modi will continue to do so. As for that mneeting on 27 Feb- I have already told the steps taken by Modi to control the violence. By the way- police shot dead 10 Hindus in Ahmedabad on 28 feb, 24 Hindus on 1 March. Police far from turning a blind eye to rioting- saved thousands of Muslims in Sanjeli Bodeli and Viramgam. And as for Pandya speaking against Modi- it was due to his personal grudges against Modi. He spoke out months after the riots and the meeting on 27 Feb. If what he said was true- why did he not say so soon after the meeting? Also Deepak will believe a BJP man for once- even if he was Gujarat’s Home Minister- just because he spoke against Modi.

  10. 21
    Ramesh Mantri AUSTRALIA Says:

    Who is afraid of debating?

    Zakir Naik is hiding in his rathole and not debating with Dr Ali Sina.
    These liers like Teesta Setalvad, Prannoy Roy, Rajdeep Sardesai were invited for debate- they are shying away- not coming out.

    If the passages are quoted -”Out of context” I wonder how so many passages in the Quran warn of “horrible doom” to disbelievers- what is the context for that?
    You are so obssessed with -”Kidnapping of a girl” that you do not even condemn the brutal roasting of 59 people in Godhra- 25 women and 15 children- and seem to think that these 25 women and 15 children kidnapped a girl. Also- the girl Sophia Sheikh was not kidnapped at all- her tales had many loopholes as mentioned by Justice Nanavati Commission report and she simply parroted what was told to her days after Godhra.
    By the way- you are justifying Godhra roasting of 25 women 15 children and 19 men because of an alleged kidnapping. If kidnapping can justify roasting of Hindus, then roasting of Hindus should justify killing of Muslims in the post-Godhra riots.

    As for Islam- you can always accuse us of quoting things “Out of context”- but why dont you tell us the right context?

    Quran says- “These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”" (22:19-22)

    So cruel is this punishment- how can you justify this passage and quote any context?
    8:12- smiting of necks, cutting fingertips- how cruel is this?

    As for Deepak- you should know that Dr Togadia has Z+ security. And as for that meeting on 27 Feb night- read the article “Chronology of a crisis” by India Today 18 March 2002. Modi ordered firm steps to be taken to control tense situation that night. He ordered 827 preventive arrests the same day, deployed Rapid Action Force, Centre sent CRPF, Modi personally appealed people to maintain peace the next day, gave shoot-at-sight orders in Godhra- aimed at Hindus who could have retaliated, curfew in Godhra and sensitive places.
    As for GODHRA, Muslims falsely spread rumours of kidnapping of a girl. Muslims believe Hindus are fools- worshipping lifeless idols, mud, statues which angers the JEALOUS GOD- and the JEALOUS GOD will throw all idolators into Hell. Muslims consider it their duty to convert idolators to Islam.

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