Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Our Challenge

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(Before reading the challenge- A REQUEST:  Please circulate this challenge.  Every opponent must see this. Innocent well-meaning people have fallen prey to the lies. Innocent Muslims have been made fanatics by the lies of self-styled secularists who have not stopped to think what the impact of their lies has been on the nation. Narendra Modi himself  has done little or nothing to bring out the truth after 2002. He did give all answers in 2002, but not after that. The BJP and Sangh Parivar people of course have neither the desire nor the capacity to counter the media lies, nor the self-confidence. Every truth-seeker and well-meaning person is requested to circulate this. Nothing will dampen the enthusiasm of the liars more than the realization that in the whole world of 700 crore people, there is not a single person who can prove that the state government was culpable, nor prove that the riots were a genocide or a massacre. They will realize that anti-Narendra Modi people like Vir Sanghvi, Vinod Dua, Rajdeep Sardesai etc can only lie in their own newspapers and TV channels, but when challenged to debate with us, they refuse to come out. Please do not undermine the impact of this challenge).

We declare an open challenge to all our opponents to prove us wrong. Our opponents can search everything written in this site- and prove us wrong on any part. Any place where we are wrong- we will accept our mistake and make the changes accordingly. Also- if anyone succeeds in proving 2 things viz:

1- The riots were a pogrom or genocide or massacre and not riots and

2- The state government was culpable

we will declare that we have been defeated.

All Indian English dailies- and others who are vociferous against Narendra Modi and call these riots as a ‘genocide’, ‘pogrom’, or ‘massacre’- and accuse the state government of being a party to the violence- are given this challenge.

People who we challenge to prove us wrong:

1- Vir Sanghvi   counterpoint@hindustantimes.com

2- Pamela Philipose  pamela.philipose@expressindia.com

3- Rajdeep Sardesai   rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com

4- Prannoy Roy   prannoy@ndtv.com

5- Javed Anand  javedanand@rediffmail.com

6- Burkha Dutt  burkha@ndtv.com

7- Teesta Setalvad  teestateesta@rediffmail.com or teestateesta@gmail.com

8- Tarun Tejpal   tarun@tehelka.com

9- Amulya Ganguli amulyaganguli@gmail.com

10- Prafull Bidwai bidwai@bol.net.in

and many others.

Please inform about this challenge to others.

Written debates should be sent to- gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com

The email address will not be published. Those who want to debate anonymously can also do so.

People who were sent this mail but did not respond:

1- Pamela Philipose

From:  <gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com>
Subject: Invitation to debate on Gujarat riots
To: pamela.philipose@expressindia.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:37 PM

Dear Ms. Pamela Philipose,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue- http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com
No response has been received from her until now.
2- Rajdeep Sardesai
Wednesday, April 7, 2010 7:46 PM
From:
To:rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com
Cc:admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Rajdeep Sardesai,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

3- Tarun Tejpal

Friday, April 9, 2010 1:45 AM
From:
To: tarun@tehelka.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Tarun Tejpal,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

Also mails have been sent to Teesta Setalvad, Prannoy Roy, Javed Anand, Amulya Ganguli, Prafull Bidwai and Ram Punyani- and not one of them has yet responded. Of course they will not respond. Because if they do, they will be exposed as liars- since they cannot defeat us in this challenge. These ‘rationalists’ who claim to believe in reason rather than emotion, cannot logically and factually counter our arguments, and go on emotion of hatred.

Here are the debates we have had until now.

1- Debate with Jaffer Mohammad

2- Debate with Shoaib

3-Debate with Abhishek

4-Debate with Mayank

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    Srikant INDIA Says:

    To start with, let us just understand what secularism come to mean in Indian context.

    SECULARISM

    1. Don’t treat as a campaign for B.J.P.
    2. Are you a secularist, then please answer these questions for yourself :
    3. There are roughly 52 Muslim countries, show one Muslim country which provides Haj subsidy.
    4. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India;
    5. Show one country where 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority;
    6. Show one Muslim country, which has a non – Muslim as its President or Prime-Minister.
    7. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a fatwa against terrorists.
    8. Hindu majority – Maharashtra, Bihar, kerala, Pondicherry etc… have in the past elected Muslims as CMs… Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the C.M. of Muslim majority?
    9. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population was in Pakistan was 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population ihn East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%… now it is 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?
    10. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% to about 14% today; whereas the Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists?
    11. In India today, Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loud speakers that there is no God except Allah?
    12. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and kashi?
    13. Why Gandhi-ji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath temple be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds? When in January 1948, he pressurised Nehru and Patel to carry on the renovation of the Mosque at Delhi at government expenses?
    14. Why Gandhi-ji supported Khilafat movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got?
    15. if Muslims and Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar, etc..; are not Hindus in minority in J. & K., Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc…? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?
    16. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amernath, Mana-Sarovar, kailash & Sabarimalai taxed?
    17. When Christians & Muslims schools can teach Bible and Quran, .. Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan in our schools?
    18. Do you admit that the Hindus do have a problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves the Hindus are them selves the problem?
    19. Why post- Godhra is blown out of proportion when no one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakhs Hindus from Kashmir?
    20. Do you consider that Sanskrit is communal, and Urdu is Secular? Mandir is Communal & Masjid is Secular? Sadhu is Communal and Imam is Secular? BJP is Communal and Muslim League is Secular? Dr. Pravin-Bhai Togadia is is Anti-national and Bukhari is Secular? Vande Mataram is Communal and Allah-O- Akbar is Secular? Shriman is Communal and Mian is Secular? Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular? Hindutva is Communal and Jihadism is Secular? And at last Bharat is Communal and Italy is Secular?
    21. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, When they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
    22. When Uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
    23. In what way , J. & K. is different from Maharashtra, Tamilnadu, or UP to have Article 370?
    24. Abdul Rehman Antulay was made a trustee of the famous Siddi Vinayak Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai… Can a Hindu say, – Mulayam or Lalloo – ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa?
    25. Dr. Pravinbhai Togadia has been arrested many times on flimsy grounds. Has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bukhari been arrested for claiming to be an I.S.I. agent and advocating partition of Bharat?
    26. A Muslim President, A Hindu P.M. and a Christian Defense Minister run the affairs of the Nation with a unity of purpose. Can this happen anywhere except in a Hindu Nation – Bharat? JAI HIND !
    27. Please forward this to as many Indians as possible. “ Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way of life.” – Swami Vivekanand.

  2. 9
    Chirag Patel UNITED STATES Says:

    This is commendable effort. World must know what Gujarat and Gujarati unity means. How well progressed Gujaratis are. They must STOP harassing Gujaratis in the name of secularism.

  3. 8
    dryogeshgpatel Says:

    ram.puniyani@gmail.com ,

  4. 7
    RC Sharma INDIA Says:

    Godhra, what happened?

    See
    http://rcscwc.blogspot.com/2010/03/godhra-what-happened.html

    That gives enough material to rebut Pronoy, Rajdeep, Vir Sanghvi, Karan Thapar etc. Channles/papers they work for say something.

  5. 6
    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Pratish,
    We are working on that point- trying to put more information.
    Kindly specify where- in your opinion- we need to put more links- pinpoint the places and tell us. You can also drop a mail at admin@gujaratriots.com for any further suggestions.
    Regards
    Admin

  6. 5
    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Dr Yogesh Patel,
    Thank you for giving the email address of Prannoy Roy. If you have any further such information- do share it with us.

  7. 4
    dr yogesh g patel INDIA Says:

    prannoy@ndtv.com

  8. 3
    dr yogesh g patel INDIA Says:

    “Prannoy Roy” ,

  9. 2
    Pratish INDIA Says:

    nice work.

    keep it up.

    have one question though.

    please also elaborate on bilqees bano, and other related incidents.

    helps in getting all material under one roof.

    also please provide as many links to the source websites as possible. a single source is usually not enough 4 some fellows out there.

    sadly, looking at some of the comments i was reminded of a quote i read some time ago. If a man does not want to believe, no amount of reasoning is sufficient.

    Satyamev Jayate

  10. 1
    S.C.Panda INDIA Says:

    You have clearly shown in book on Gujarat Riots the casualty figures in Parliament as given by Mr Sriprakash Jaiswal,MoH in May,2005 as:Killed 790 Muslims, 254 Hindu indicating the riot was not one sided i.e. Hindus died of Police bullets and Muslim violence. The former absolves the Gujarat govt. of Mr Narendra Modi of any inaction on its part. SC Panda.

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