Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Our Challenge

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(Before reading the challenge- A REQUEST:  Please circulate this challenge.  Every opponent must see this. Innocent well-meaning people have fallen prey to the lies. Innocent Muslims have been made fanatics by the lies of self-styled secularists who have not stopped to think what the impact of their lies has been on the nation. Narendra Modi himself  has done little or nothing to bring out the truth after 2002. He did give all answers in 2002, but not after that. The BJP and Sangh Parivar people of course have neither the desire nor the capacity to counter the media lies, nor the self-confidence. Every truth-seeker and well-meaning person is requested to circulate this. Nothing will dampen the enthusiasm of the liars more than the realization that in the whole world of 700 crore people, there is not a single person who can prove that the state government was culpable, nor prove that the riots were a genocide or a massacre. They will realize that anti-Narendra Modi people like Vir Sanghvi, Vinod Dua, Rajdeep Sardesai etc can only lie in their own newspapers and TV channels, but when challenged to debate with us, they refuse to come out. Please do not undermine the impact of this challenge).

We declare an open challenge to all our opponents to prove us wrong. Our opponents can search everything written in this site- and prove us wrong on any part. Any place where we are wrong- we will accept our mistake and make the changes accordingly. Also- if anyone succeeds in proving 2 things viz:

1- The riots were a pogrom or genocide or massacre and not riots and

2- The state government was culpable

we will declare that we have been defeated.

All Indian English dailies- and others who are vociferous against Narendra Modi and call these riots as a ‘genocide’, ‘pogrom’, or ‘massacre’- and accuse the state government of being a party to the violence- are given this challenge.

People who we challenge to prove us wrong:

1- Vir Sanghvi   counterpoint@hindustantimes.com

2- Pamela Philipose  pamela.philipose@expressindia.com

3- Rajdeep Sardesai   rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com

4- Prannoy Roy   prannoy@ndtv.com

5- Javed Anand  javedanand@rediffmail.com

6- Burkha Dutt  burkha@ndtv.com

7- Teesta Setalvad  teestateesta@rediffmail.com or teestateesta@gmail.com

8- Tarun Tejpal   tarun@tehelka.com

9- Amulya Ganguli amulyaganguli@gmail.com

10- Prafull Bidwai bidwai@bol.net.in

and many others.

Please inform about this challenge to others.

Written debates should be sent to- gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com

The email address will not be published. Those who want to debate anonymously can also do so.

People who were sent this mail but did not respond:

1- Pamela Philipose

From:  <gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com>
Subject: Invitation to debate on Gujarat riots
To: pamela.philipose@expressindia.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:37 PM

Dear Ms. Pamela Philipose,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue- http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com
No response has been received from her until now.
2- Rajdeep Sardesai
Wednesday, April 7, 2010 7:46 PM
From:
To:rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com
Cc:admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Rajdeep Sardesai,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

3- Tarun Tejpal

Friday, April 9, 2010 1:45 AM
From:
To: tarun@tehelka.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Tarun Tejpal,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

Also mails have been sent to Teesta Setalvad, Prannoy Roy, Javed Anand, Amulya Ganguli, Prafull Bidwai and Ram Punyani- and not one of them has yet responded. Of course they will not respond. Because if they do, they will be exposed as liars- since they cannot defeat us in this challenge. These ‘rationalists’ who claim to believe in reason rather than emotion, cannot logically and factually counter our arguments, and go on emotion of hatred.

Here are the debates we have had until now.

1- Debate with Jaffer Mohammad

2- Debate with Shoaib

3-Debate with Abhishek

4-Debate with Mayank

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64 Responses to “Our Challenge”

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  1. 40
    Amit AUSTRALIA Says:

    Those who all are talking from Foreign country’s…
    You’ll don’t have rights to talk unless you face it, u’l may be happily staying out of India come here and face it.
    if u’l have time then watch videos of Owaisi brothers, what was the necessity to building party naming Muslim is there any party naming Hindu? You get to see only Janata, peoples party.

    Let me ask u’l one question.
    Hindus have any problem with Buddhists, Christians, etc… ?
    No.
    We don’t even have problem with Muslims.
    Its muslims who are taking first step.

    Mahatma Gandhi Ji made mistake.
    He should have let all the muslims to go to Pakistan.

    Lets talk about Real History.
    Hindus didn go any where to conquer any people.
    Islamic(muslim) ppl came to Hindustan,Bharat,India looted and destroyed our ancient Temples.
    After them Britishers came Because India was Rich.

    If you give India in the hands of Muslims then they’l make another Pakistan.
    MIND IT…
    opponents reply me.

  2. 39
    Goutam Kumar Kole SINGAPORE Says:

    Any riot is unfortunate and should not happen. But in the past, before and after independence, there are many riots reported to happen. But Gujarat riot is most famous and known to all; courtesy: Communal Congress and Pseudo secular Communists. Gujarat riot is a politicized case. People always talk about Gujarat riot but they forget about the unfortunate burning the Ram-sevaks living inside the train. People never ask question why Gujarat riot happened. Actually common people’ memory is very short. They are not supposed to remember what had happened in Gujarat in 2002. But it is the anti-BJP parties (I rather call them anti-national and real communal)have kept the memory of 2002 riot alive in the mind of voters just to be benefited in the election. Communalism, Religion should not be the agenda of election in modern times. Only development should be agenda of election. Now it is the time of preparation of 2014 general election. So we should talk only about Development. But the corrupt UPA has nothing to talk about development. So they want to keep the communalism agenda alive. It is not BJP, it is, indeed, Congress is responsible for poor growth of Muslim. BJP ruled India for for 6 years. But Congress ruled more than 50 years. So we should ask first what Congress really has for the minorities. Congress has done only appeasement politics and no development. Only BJP can provide extensive growth of India which includes Muslims also.

  3. 38
    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    “You guys were already proved wrong when the Supreme Court judgement declared the sitting MLA of Gujarat Govt. Babu Bajrangi and Women and Child Minister Maya Kodani were as perpetrators of heinous crimes – genocide. If the ministers of a state govt. supposed to protect its citizens are engaged in selective killing of minority then I think this can be termed as Govt. involvment and dereliction of duty towards state. I don’t know what you call it, maybe patriotism. Atleast I hope you respect a Supreme Court decision. Also please explain me why the innocent police officers are being harassed by Gujarat Govt. like Rahul Sharma, IPS, Sanjeev Gupta IPS, if the Gujarat Govt. has nothing to hide or feel ashamed of. I do not have anything to say but I can only smile at your blindness. You are in deep darkness”

    You are wrong. Babu Bajrangi had nothing to do with the government- he was a leader of the Bajrang Dal in 2002- which too he quit soon after 2002 and for many years before 2012 he was not a member of Bajrang Dal at all. YOU are wrong on so many factors in this comment, The Supreme Court judgment has not convicted either Bajrangi or Kodnani, the TRIAL COURT of Jyotsna Yagnik has, Jyotsna Yagnik was once a junior lawyer of known Congress leader Manubhai Palkhiwala. Maya Kodnani still can appeal in the Higher courts and get totally acquitted- thats a diiferent issue, right now we have to assume her guilty. She was NOT A MINISTER but just an MLA at that time. Any MLA in his or her individual capacity if held guilty for rioting does not mean the government was involved. The Congress’ leaders and workers too have been declared guilty- like for roasting of Hindus in Godhra, and also killing of Hindus post-Godhra. They are also accused in killing of Muslims post-Godhra. Does that mean that the whole Congress party is culpable?
    You are totally wrong on facts, repeatedly calling it a SUPREME COURT DECISION when it is a trial court decision. Also the officers like Sanjiv Bhat, R Shreekumar all have been exposed in Myth 19, which you obviously do not seem to have read, or chosen to ignore to know their true face. Far from being vindictive, the Gujarat Government has been far too soft on these dishonest frauds for being of being called vindictive by the media. Do not make sweeping generalizations. You are absolutely blind and have not refuted a single argument given by us, and given totally wrong acts while trying to sit on Kodnani and Bajrangi convictions. Kodnani was just an MLA in 2002 NOT A MINISTER. She was Minister only for a brief period from Dec 2007 to Feb 2009. First be correct on facts and then come to refute us.

  4. 37
    Rajarshi Dhar Says:

    You guys were already proved wrong when the Supreme Court judgement declared the sitting MLA of Gujarat Govt. Babu Bajrangi and Women and Child Minister Maya Kodani were as perpetrators of heinous crimes – genocide. If the ministers of a state govt. supposed to protect its citizens are engaged in selective killing of minority then I think this can be termed as Govt. involvment and dereliction of duty towards state. I don’t know what you call it, maybe patriotism. Atleast I hope you respect a Supreme Court decision. Also please explain me why the innocent police officers are being harassed by Gujarat Govt. like Rahul Sharma, IPS, Sanjeev Gupta IPS, if the Gujarat Govt. has nothing to hide or feel ashamed of. I do not have anything to say but I can only smile at your blindness. You are in deep darkness

  5. 36
    Srini INDIA Says:

    Hi

    The Hindus to be victorious should do the following

    1. Open temple priest job to all caste people
    2. Translate Sanskrit mantras to local language. So that people understand what is told to god.
    3. Help fellow hindus. If you are in interview panel help job less hindus to get job. If there are 10 vacancies show mercy and give 1 job to a poor or less fortunate hindu.
    4. North – south divide should go. Love all hindus
    5. Realise kashmir. NOrht east, Srilanka . It is hindus who were killed . But media says ethinic violence. Clever tactics to fool hindus
    6. Realise – Srilankan Buddhism is against hinduism. Srilanka is not friend of india
    7. Dont spend huge money and go to temples far away. GIve that money to hindu charity organisations. Buy clothes especially under garments to orphans. Help hindus

    This this the first step for Hindu India.

  6. 35
    Ravi Raj patil INDIA Says:

    It is impossible for you people to convince this so called minarets. It is better for you people to just stick to your guns (words) fallow narendra modiji this people wants to be ruled. Look at the history of world where ever there is or was dictatorship or monarchy they obay, democracy dont suit them.

  7. 34
    Raj Says:

    @indian engnr U muslims live in india bt sprt pakistan. I hw seen it many times. Would u muslims declare fatwa against any terrorist.? Y u oppressed hindus frm early age .? Y dere is muslims invld in terrorism tagging it as jihad on d name of rlgn . As far as Rss , here anyone of any cast clr n rlgn can b a membr of Rss by just saying VANDE MATRAM. Y u dont raise voice agnst muslim atrocities on hindus in porkistan n bangladesh? Shame on muslims like u bt nt on all.

  8. 33
    Sai UNITED STATES Says:

    Sir, I am not an expert in the arguments.
    But I can tell you I am not happy with BJP or 2002. The former because:
    I am one of the large constituency in the India that is instinctively uncomfortable with the congress culture. But it is more difficult to support a party that is inconsistent at times and cannot bury its extremist thinking. I am Hindu, Brahmin, but I feel it makes more sense to me when I say I am an Indian. It may be correct to be a child organization of RSS or VHP legally, but when you have a stature as a national party it is better to behave liberally on the issue of Hinduism. I don’t say BJP condemns Islam. But its rhetoric is more Hindu. It is better if it avoids it. Congress is seen as secular because it doesn’t have the religion in its rhetoric, though bad and good exists in every religion and party. I believe BJP will have a great future if it revisits its approach on Hinduism.
    And for 2002, it is worst, because it exposed the limitations of BJP not only to India, but also to the world. Congress lost Gujarat for more than a while but benefitted in exploiting the minority vote. It is just threating in the name of 2002. And it makes me more angry that because of this, the liberals who also suffered from Muslim appeasement, lost a chance to say, ‘BJP IS THE REAL SECULAR PARTY WHICH DOESN’T APPEASE ANYONE’.

  9. 32
    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    Whose post address and why Madam?

  10. 31
    Renuka Shiroya INDIA Says:

    Sir,
    Kindly send me post-address.
    Thanks,
    ……Renuka.

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