Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Our Challenge

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(Before reading the challenge- A REQUEST:  Please circulate this challenge.  Every opponent must see this. Innocent well-meaning people have fallen prey to the lies. Innocent Muslims have been made fanatics by the lies of self-styled secularists who have not stopped to think what the impact of their lies has been on the nation. Narendra Modi himself  has done little or nothing to bring out the truth after 2002. He did give all answers in 2002, but not after that. The BJP and Sangh Parivar people of course have neither the desire nor the capacity to counter the media lies, nor the self-confidence. Every truth-seeker and well-meaning person is requested to circulate this. Nothing will dampen the enthusiasm of the liars more than the realization that in the whole world of 700 crore people, there is not a single person who can prove that the state government was culpable, nor prove that the riots were a genocide or a massacre. They will realize that anti-Narendra Modi people like Vir Sanghvi, Vinod Dua, Rajdeep Sardesai etc can only lie in their own newspapers and TV channels, but when challenged to debate with us, they refuse to come out. Please do not undermine the impact of this challenge).

We declare an open challenge to all our opponents to prove us wrong. Our opponents can search everything written in this site- and prove us wrong on any part. Any place where we are wrong- we will accept our mistake and make the changes accordingly. Also- if anyone succeeds in proving 2 things viz:

1- The riots were a pogrom or genocide or massacre and not riots and

2- The state government was culpable

we will declare that we have been defeated.

All Indian English dailies- and others who are vociferous against Narendra Modi and call these riots as a ‘genocide’, ‘pogrom’, or ‘massacre’- and accuse the state government of being a party to the violence- are given this challenge.

People who we challenge to prove us wrong:

1- Vir Sanghvi   counterpoint@hindustantimes.com

2- Pamela Philipose  pamela.philipose@expressindia.com

3- Rajdeep Sardesai   rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com

4- Prannoy Roy   prannoy@ndtv.com

5- Javed Anand  javedanand@rediffmail.com

6- Burkha Dutt  burkha@ndtv.com

7- Teesta Setalvad  teestateesta@rediffmail.com or teestateesta@gmail.com

8- Tarun Tejpal   tarun@tehelka.com

9- Amulya Ganguli amulyaganguli@gmail.com

10- Prafull Bidwai bidwai@bol.net.in

and many others.

Please inform about this challenge to others.

Written debates should be sent to- gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com

The email address will not be published. Those who want to debate anonymously can also do so.

People who were sent this mail but did not respond:

1- Pamela Philipose

From:  <gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com>
Subject: Invitation to debate on Gujarat riots
To: pamela.philipose@expressindia.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:37 PM

Dear Ms. Pamela Philipose,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue- http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com
No response has been received from her until now.
2- Rajdeep Sardesai
Wednesday, April 7, 2010 7:46 PM
From:
To:rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com
Cc:admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Rajdeep Sardesai,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

3- Tarun Tejpal

Friday, April 9, 2010 1:45 AM
From:
To: tarun@tehelka.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Tarun Tejpal,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

Also mails have been sent to Teesta Setalvad, Prannoy Roy, Javed Anand, Amulya Ganguli, Prafull Bidwai and Ram Punyani- and not one of them has yet responded. Of course they will not respond. Because if they do, they will be exposed as liars- since they cannot defeat us in this challenge. These ‘rationalists’ who claim to believe in reason rather than emotion, cannot logically and factually counter our arguments, and go on emotion of hatred.

Here are the debates we have had until now.

1- Debate with Jaffer Mohammad

2- Debate with Shoaib

3-Debate with Abhishek

4-Debate with Mayank

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  1. 50
    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    Just telling for the fact that Atal Bihari Vajpayee infact said that Modi is following Rajdharma only. See this full video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7M8ED08Uk

  2. 49
    Prashant Gaur INDIA Says:

    I react very straight. Hindus are insensitive in religious and political activities , hence are misunderstood as covered. Muslim are very much sensitive in both religious and political activities so all political influence they receive from political parties. Most of the so called intellectuals feel that anti Hindu articles or reporting will provide them good coverage even by ruling parties so they are easily managed by parties for their purpose . This had happened in the regime of britishers also.
    If Hindu react against government or Muslim ,this intellectuals find a very good opportunity to show their anger against hindu and receive complements by their guardians. The politics of hate is the baby of this nexus just to grab the vote.
    The situation is very alarming, if a sheep can fight with lion to save its existence, the situation is being created by politicians for hindus to fight for their existence.

    I urge to politicians and these pets not to play with the sentiments of both Hindu and Muslim and treat them as Indian, otherwise the situation will go worsen and will be uncontrolled.

  3. 48
    Chandrakant Shetty Says:

    Please add Karan Thapar to the Narendra Modi hate list.

  4. 47
    SAUMIL SHAH INDIA Says:

    We should understand one thing first, india has so many other major issues to deal with require strong government power & willingness. We are just happy with blame games but in many ways we people have to think mature & lead the india with practical approach. In my opinion 2002 trial is processing under of apex court & with respect of this we should move & think of better india. Modi is a right person to lead india.

  5. 46
    Deba prasad Parija INDIA Says:

    No need of this debate now.As the then Prime minister Atal behari Bajpayee was too much upset and hurt in the role of CM Modi,that he advised him TO PERFORM RAJDHARM in public.It means to perform his duty to save all citizens they may be Muslims or Hindus.So was he also joined anti Modi and Anti Sangh Parivar people?????

  6. 45
    Kalyana Krishnan Says:

    Please include the name of the tehelka editor in the list of Modi hater as she is vociferous in expressing her views in all channels

  7. 44
    Dr S S Chadha INDIA Says:

    I do not understand the psychology of these secularists? They are still suffering from the inferiority complex of 1200 years of foriegn rule and licking the shoes of their masters { They will only come to their senses when their own mothers and sisters are humiliated by these Jehadis .

  8. 43
    imran UNITED STATES Says:

    Dear brothers,

    Some are telling that it is a retaliation for Godhra. I don’t accept with that. If it is correct then the bomb blasts 1993 in Mumbai were also right. As per the Sri krishna commision appointed after the Blasts, it is concluded that the bomb blasts done in retaliation. Islam doesn’t permit these kind of behaviour. This is just like “if I killed your family member then you started killing your neighbors.” How correct is this procedure. Some are telling that “we should forget the past.” Can you forget if someone had killed your brothers or sisters? I don’t support any terrorist activity and I consider killing any innocent is a terrorist activity. Islam doesn’t support killing any innocent one. It is a religion of peace. the below article I have read explains you better:

    The Qur’an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle — i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Quran are in this context.
    There are some specific verses that are very often “snipped” out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing “jihadism,” or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.
    “Slay Them” – If They Attack You First
    For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: “slay them wherever you catch them” (Quran 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are “they” that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
    “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter… But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful… If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression” (2:190-193).
    It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back — but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.
    “Fight the Pagans” – If They Break Treaties
    A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 — which in its snipped, out of context version could read: “fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).” Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
    This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them… (as quoted above).
    Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, “but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them… for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that “as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous.”
    Conclusion
    Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Quran. Nowhere in the Quran can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in ‘payback’ for another people’s alleged crimes.
    The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Quran 60:7-8):
    “It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
    God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just.”

    Read the Quran with translations and understand it. Don’t mention only one sentence and go out of context. Read it completely.

  9. 42
    Jyoti Ranjan Chouhan Says:

    Lets forget the tragic situation whatever happened & build a healthy & disciplined BHARAT.Share your hands for our MATRUBHUMI.We people are the sons & daughters of the soil & there is nothing called HINDU,MUSLIM,SIKH,CHRISTIAN,OR OTHERS,We live in the best country in the world,where respect for every human being is there.Everybody has the rights to fight for bad.Lets don’t fight in the name of religion.We are all equal & we have one mother BHARATMATA. Lets respect & protect her . She desperately need for our help.Justice has became a word now-a-days.There is a need of good governance in this country to irradicate corruption,illiteracy,mafiaraj etc.The country divides in the name strong & weak.Lets promise this moment that this should not happen again. There should not be a partial nature in the name of cast ,creed or religion etc. Importantly the misutilization of power & wealth by the stronger society of the people.Most importantly when choosing your leader by which ideology the country runs & wheather he or she is capable to run your district ,panchayat or state or Country. Don’t come across the VOTE BANK POLITICS or false promises politician mostly use for VOTE BANK. They don’t even hesitate to divide among RELIGION to RELIGION,caste to caste,community to community .Don’t believe at all.Use your full hand when choosing your leader.Spread this message ,don’t keep it. MERA BHARAT MAHAN

  10. 41
    colonel. INDIA Says:

    Also include the names of Dileep Padgaonkar, Arnab Goswami who are part of this great conspiracy to demomise and demolish this great leader of our Country Sh Narendra Modi…..hats to you Naren bhai what you have stood up to in this last 12 years needs a super human endurance. And mind you they have not called it a day as yet….Diggys, Tiwaris, Sibals, Renukas of the world are still at it to please their masters in Italy and still leaving no efforts to spread their lies

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