Gujarat Riots: The True Story

The Truth of the 2002 riots

The Godhra Carnage

Difference between Godhra and other tragic incidents

Several people- unable to understand the sufferings of the Hindu society- have asked- “Why did riots occur only after Godhra? Why was nobody targeted after the Akshardham temple attack- or after the attacks on Mumbai on 26 November 2008?” Well- the answers are many.

Our Challenge

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(Before reading the challenge- A REQUEST:  Please circulate this challenge.  Every opponent must see this. Innocent well-meaning people have fallen prey to the lies. Innocent Muslims have been made fanatics by the lies of self-styled secularists who have not stopped to think what the impact of their lies has been on the nation. Narendra Modi himself  has done little or nothing to bring out the truth after 2002. He did give all answers in 2002, but not after that. The BJP and Sangh Parivar people of course have neither the desire nor the capacity to counter the media lies, nor the self-confidence. Every truth-seeker and well-meaning person is requested to circulate this. Nothing will dampen the enthusiasm of the liars more than the realization that in the whole world of 700 crore people, there is not a single person who can prove that the state government was culpable, nor prove that the riots were a genocide or a massacre. They will realize that anti-Narendra Modi people like Vir Sanghvi, Vinod Dua, Rajdeep Sardesai etc can only lie in their own newspapers and TV channels, but when challenged to debate with us, they refuse to come out. Please do not undermine the impact of this challenge).

We declare an open challenge to all our opponents to prove us wrong. Our opponents can search everything written in this site- and prove us wrong on any part. Any place where we are wrong- we will accept our mistake and make the changes accordingly. Also- if anyone succeeds in proving 2 things viz:

1- The riots were a pogrom or genocide or massacre and not riots and

2- The state government was culpable

we will declare that we have been defeated.

All Indian English dailies- and others who are vociferous against Narendra Modi and call these riots as a ‘genocide’, ‘pogrom’, or ‘massacre’- and accuse the state government of being a party to the violence- are given this challenge.

People who we challenge to prove us wrong:

1- Vir Sanghvi   counterpoint@hindustantimes.com

2- Pamela Philipose  pamela.philipose@expressindia.com

3- Rajdeep Sardesai   rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com

4- Prannoy Roy   prannoy@ndtv.com

5- Javed Anand  javedanand@rediffmail.com

6- Burkha Dutt  burkha@ndtv.com

7- Teesta Setalvad  teestateesta@rediffmail.com or teestateesta@gmail.com

8- Tarun Tejpal   tarun@tehelka.com

9- Amulya Ganguli amulyaganguli@gmail.com

10- Prafull Bidwai bidwai@bol.net.in

and many others.

Please inform about this challenge to others.

Written debates should be sent to- gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com

The email address will not be published. Those who want to debate anonymously can also do so.

People who were sent this mail but did not respond:

1- Pamela Philipose

From:  <gujaratriots2002@yahoo.com>
Subject: Invitation to debate on Gujarat riots
To: pamela.philipose@expressindia.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:37 PM

Dear Ms. Pamela Philipose,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue- http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com
No response has been received from her until now.
2- Rajdeep Sardesai
Wednesday, April 7, 2010 7:46 PM
From:
To:rajdeep.sardesai@gmail.com
Cc:admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Rajdeep Sardesai,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

3- Tarun Tejpal

Friday, April 9, 2010 1:45 AM
From:
To: tarun@tehelka.com
Cc: admin@gujaratriots.com

Dear Mr Tarun Tejpal,
You have called the Gujarat riots as a ‘pogrom’ many times in your articles. We invite you for a debate on this issue-
http://www.gujaratriots.com/our-challenge/
We will publish this mail on our website. We await your response.
Regards,
Admin, Gujaratriots.com

No response has been received from him until now.

Also mails have been sent to Teesta Setalvad, Prannoy Roy, Javed Anand, Amulya Ganguli, Prafull Bidwai and Ram Punyani- and not one of them has yet responded. Of course they will not respond. Because if they do, they will be exposed as liars- since they cannot defeat us in this challenge. These ‘rationalists’ who claim to believe in reason rather than emotion, cannot logically and factually counter our arguments, and go on emotion of hatred.

Here are the debates we have had until now.

1- Debate with Jaffer Mohammad

2- Debate with Shoaib

3-Debate with Abhishek

4-Debate with Mayank

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64 Responses to “Our Challenge”

  1. 1
    S.C.Panda INDIA Says:

    You have clearly shown in book on Gujarat Riots the casualty figures in Parliament as given by Mr Sriprakash Jaiswal,MoH in May,2005 as:Killed 790 Muslims, 254 Hindu indicating the riot was not one sided i.e. Hindus died of Police bullets and Muslim violence. The former absolves the Gujarat govt. of Mr Narendra Modi of any inaction on its part. SC Panda.

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    Pratish INDIA Says:

    nice work.

    keep it up.

    have one question though.

    please also elaborate on bilqees bano, and other related incidents.

    helps in getting all material under one roof.

    also please provide as many links to the source websites as possible. a single source is usually not enough 4 some fellows out there.

    sadly, looking at some of the comments i was reminded of a quote i read some time ago. If a man does not want to believe, no amount of reasoning is sufficient.

    Satyamev Jayate

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    dr yogesh g patel INDIA Says:

    “Prannoy Roy” ,

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    dr yogesh g patel INDIA Says:

    prannoy@ndtv.com

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Dr Yogesh Patel,
    Thank you for giving the email address of Prannoy Roy. If you have any further such information- do share it with us.

  6. 6
    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Pratish,
    We are working on that point- trying to put more information.
    Kindly specify where- in your opinion- we need to put more links- pinpoint the places and tell us. You can also drop a mail at admin@gujaratriots.com for any further suggestions.
    Regards
    Admin

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    RC Sharma INDIA Says:

    Godhra, what happened?

    See
    http://rcscwc.blogspot.com/2010/03/godhra-what-happened.html

    That gives enough material to rebut Pronoy, Rajdeep, Vir Sanghvi, Karan Thapar etc. Channles/papers they work for say something.

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    dryogeshgpatel Says:

    ram.puniyani@gmail.com ,

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    Chirag Patel UNITED STATES Says:

    This is commendable effort. World must know what Gujarat and Gujarati unity means. How well progressed Gujaratis are. They must STOP harassing Gujaratis in the name of secularism.

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    Srikant INDIA Says:

    To start with, let us just understand what secularism come to mean in Indian context.

    SECULARISM

    1. Don’t treat as a campaign for B.J.P.
    2. Are you a secularist, then please answer these questions for yourself :
    3. There are roughly 52 Muslim countries, show one Muslim country which provides Haj subsidy.
    4. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India;
    5. Show one country where 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority;
    6. Show one Muslim country, which has a non – Muslim as its President or Prime-Minister.
    7. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a fatwa against terrorists.
    8. Hindu majority – Maharashtra, Bihar, kerala, Pondicherry etc… have in the past elected Muslims as CMs… Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the C.M. of Muslim majority?
    9. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population was in Pakistan was 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population ihn East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%… now it is 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?
    10. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% to about 14% today; whereas the Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists?
    11. In India today, Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loud speakers that there is no God except Allah?
    12. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and kashi?
    13. Why Gandhi-ji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath temple be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds? When in January 1948, he pressurised Nehru and Patel to carry on the renovation of the Mosque at Delhi at government expenses?
    14. Why Gandhi-ji supported Khilafat movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got?
    15. if Muslims and Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar, etc..; are not Hindus in minority in J. & K., Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc…? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?
    16. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amernath, Mana-Sarovar, kailash & Sabarimalai taxed?
    17. When Christians & Muslims schools can teach Bible and Quran, .. Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan in our schools?
    18. Do you admit that the Hindus do have a problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves the Hindus are them selves the problem?
    19. Why post- Godhra is blown out of proportion when no one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakhs Hindus from Kashmir?
    20. Do you consider that Sanskrit is communal, and Urdu is Secular? Mandir is Communal & Masjid is Secular? Sadhu is Communal and Imam is Secular? BJP is Communal and Muslim League is Secular? Dr. Pravin-Bhai Togadia is is Anti-national and Bukhari is Secular? Vande Mataram is Communal and Allah-O- Akbar is Secular? Shriman is Communal and Mian is Secular? Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular? Hindutva is Communal and Jihadism is Secular? And at last Bharat is Communal and Italy is Secular?
    21. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, When they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
    22. When Uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
    23. In what way , J. & K. is different from Maharashtra, Tamilnadu, or UP to have Article 370?
    24. Abdul Rehman Antulay was made a trustee of the famous Siddi Vinayak Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai… Can a Hindu say, – Mulayam or Lalloo – ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa?
    25. Dr. Pravinbhai Togadia has been arrested many times on flimsy grounds. Has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bukhari been arrested for claiming to be an I.S.I. agent and advocating partition of Bharat?
    26. A Muslim President, A Hindu P.M. and a Christian Defense Minister run the affairs of the Nation with a unity of purpose. Can this happen anywhere except in a Hindu Nation – Bharat? JAI HIND !
    27. Please forward this to as many Indians as possible. “ Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way of life.” – Swami Vivekanand.

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    Lalubhai Parekh Says:

    This is brilliant and you deserve congratulations.Itis high time we should hold demonstrations at High ommission.Do you know that the minister of co-ordination and scurity head are muslim officers at our high commission London.

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    Srikant INDIA Says:

    Kindly read this article by Mr. Kumar of Hyderabad settled in USA and standing for coming election in Tennessee.

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/26/the-wrong-way-to-stand-against-jihad/

    The world and esp. India has got to open their eyes wide. Otherwise …. well !!!

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    sufi UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Says:

    great work please also link the tehelka sting operation where your own beloveds of narainder modi openly praise him to help them on the massacre.

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    Ramesh AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Sufi
    http://www.gujaratriots.com/44/tehelka-lies/

    These people were indulging in BOASTFUL LIES- read this whole chapter to understand the truth. And if you are so sure Modi government was culpable- why dont you accept the challenge and prove this site’s arguments as wrong- based on your evidence?

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    Ashish Sulekar INDIA Says:

    Good Questions arose by Srikant.
    Now remember this fact
    ” When any religion leads towards perfectness it leads to Hindutva cause Hindutva is sanatan which means no origin and no end . ”
    those who say muslims is religion of god… please go to the depth of origin of muslim religion with true heart….. go to the depth of history….. find out whats there at RAMALLAH = Ram + Allah ………

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    trur indian Says:

    mr srikant let me give youa information
    about hinduism which you lack
    pandit ravi shankar in his speech said
    there is no hindu religion in the world hindus are ppl who live in hindustan . soevery muslim living in india is a hindu. idiot

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    Tarique INDIA Says:

    Srikant :

    Out of your 27 points ,atleast 25 are baseless. Now here are my points which have meaning :

    - You claim hinduism as Secular, Why you didnot discuss about the Babri Masjid Demolition. If Babri masjid would not have been brought down, MUMBAI SERIAL BLAST would have been averted. But ..your favourite MR Advanci wanted to win the election on the cost of human blood. Now who is to be blame here..Hindu or Muslim….and now alse if you give poor reasons then you are uneducated.

    - Why you are discussong about the Hindu Extremist responsible for Ajmer Blast…

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    Srikant J. INDIA Says:

    The Wrong Way to Fight Jihad
    Posted by Jamie Glazov on Mar 26th, 2010 and filed under FrontPage. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0. Both comments and pings are currently closed.
    Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine’s editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of Canadian Policy Toward Khrushchev’s Soviet Union and is the co-editor (with David Horowitz) of The Hate America Left. He edited and wrote the introduction to David Horowitz’s Left Illusions. His new book is United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror. Email him at jamieglazov11@gmail.com.

    Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Vijay Kumar, who is currently running for the U.S. Congress as a Republican candidate for Tennessee 5th Congressional District. The Primary vote comes on August 5 of this year, and the General Election is on November 4. When he ran before, in 2008, he received about 30% of the vote in Republican Primary. His website is kumarforcongress.com. Visit his blog at kumarforcongress.net.
    FP: Vijay Kumar, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
    You are one of the rare individuals running for office in America who is actually making the issue of Islamic Jihad a significant part of your campaign. Tell us your view of Islamic Jihad and the background you have to make you see it the way you do.
    Kumar: I am a native of Hyderabad, India, which is where I first encountered the Muslim culture. We have a substantial number of Muslims there, a higher percentage than most other parts of India, and I began to observe things that troubled me. Later, I traveled a number of Islamic nations, and I lived in Iran from 1976 to 1979, during the Islamic Revolution of Ayatollah Khomeini. I immigrated to the United States in 1979. All my life, I have been interested in political thought. During my travels, I came to realize that Islam is unlike any of the other world religions for a variety of reasons, and they summate to the Islamic ideology behind Jihad.
    First, Islam was conceived as a world empire to govern all mankind. It teaches that all the world, and everyone and everything in it, already belongs to Islam–some people just haven’t been made to understand that. Until they have, according to Islam, they are considered “infidels” and inferiors. Put another way, the Islamic view is that all of us in the world are subjects of the Islamic Empire, and those of us who do not acknowledge our subjugation to it must be overcome and brought to submission, through conversion or force. No other religion in the world has such a purpose of world conquest and domination.
    Second, Islam does not allow any introspection or self-criticism. It calls for total acceptance, total submission. The very word “Islam” means “submission,” and the word “Muslim” means “one who submits.” The other side of submission, of course, is domination. Islam seeks to dominate every individual and every nation into submission. In that, it shares a key element of slavery, which the civilized world has properly decried and abolished. Such submission is a political act. I am a freeman, and I refuse to submit to Islamic hegemony.
    Third, Islam does not have any exit policy for its believers. The act of submission required to become a Muslim is held to be final, irrevocable, and permanent. So criticizing or questioning Islam or its teachings or leaders, or attempting to leave Islam, all are considered severe crimes against Islam, punishable by death.
    In contrast, non-Islamic religions allow for dissenting views, introspection, and reasoned debate. In non-Islamic religions, if you so choose, you can leave the faith you were born into without being threatened with physical violence or death. In Islam, both criticism of the faith and apostasy are capital offenses.
    All of that is what drives Jihad: Jihad is a permanent war against the unbeliever and his land to bring about his submission. It has been going on for fourteen centuries all over the world, which is why I coined the term “Universal Jihad.” Islam’s Universal Jihad is the single greatest threat to Western civilization and to the entire non-Islamic world in general. It is more dangerous than Nazism and Communism combined.
    FP: More dangerous than Nazism and Communism combined? Please explain this perspective.
    Kumar: Nazism was in power for 15 years or so. Communism was in power for about 70 years. Today, Germany, Japan, and Russia, our former adversaries, are now our allies. Also, they are liberal democracies.
    Nazism, Communism, and Islam are all three totalitarian ideologies. Communism and Nazism, though, lack a system of transcendental metaphysics, which Islam has. Nazism and Communism do not claim to be religions, and there is no threat of hell-fire to hold over its adherents. By contrast, Islam is a totalitarian form of governance that also claims to be a religion, and so has proved to be far more sustainable than any other form of aggressive totalitarianism.
    The doctrine and politics of Universal Jihad have been assaulting the world for 1,400 years. It is exactly what launched the Christian Crusades, which were an attempt to save European civilization from the relentless onslaught and wholesale murder of invading Muslim forces.
    Under Universal Jihad, non-Muslim civilizations have been annihilated. To mention just a few examples: Turkey was Christian; Iran was Zoroastrian; North Africa and the Middle East were predominantly Christian; Afghanistan and Central Asia were Buddhist; Pakistan was Hindu; Egypt was Coptic, orthodox Christian. All have fallen prey to invasion by Islam.
    Today, Universal Jihad has been brought to the West–not just by overt violence, but through every strategy and tactic conceivable. Islam is not just the faith of another immigrant group; it is a complete political and paramilitary ideology. Political Islam is here to Islamize the Western nations, and that includes the United States.
    So Universal Jihad is a permanent form of warfare against the infidels, their nation-states, and every non-Islamic form of government in the world. It has been Islam’s mandate for 1,400 years that other cultures must submit to it. Islam is devoted to an eternally-unchanging doctrine: it is obligated to conquer entire world.
    No one needs to take my word for it. Syed Abul A’ala Maududi, a Pakistani, was arguably the most influential Muslim theologian and thinker of the 20th Century. He said the following point-blank:
    “Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and program . . . [T]he objective of Islamic Jihad is to eliminate the rule of an un-Islamic system and establish in its stead an Islamic system of State rule. Islam does not intend to confine this revolution to a single State or a few countries; the aim of Islam is to bring about a universal revolution.”
    Any Muslim or apologist who claims otherwise, or who insists that Islam is just “a religion of peace” is not arguing against me: they are arguing against their own most revered leaders and experts on Islam and its true purpose. They are spreading Islamic propaganda that has no other purpose than to lull the infidel into a false sense of friendship and security.
    Such propaganda is a primary and vitally important tool of Islam’s psychological warfare. Syed Abul A’ala Maududi also spelled out clearly how many different ways Universal Jihad is to be waged against ”the infidels”:
    “In the jihad in the way of Allah, active combat is not always the role on the battlefield, nor can everyone fight in the front line. Just for one single battle preparations have often to be made for decades on end and the plans deeply laid, and while only some thousands fight in the front line there are behind them millions engaged in various tasks which, though small themselves, contribute directly to the supreme effort.”
    Unlike any other religion anywhere in the world, Islam’s clear, inarguable overarching purpose is Universal Jihad and global conquest, using any means. It is not waged just through terrorism and violent conflict. That is an extraordinarily naive view. Islam also uses psychological warfare, propaganda, covert operations, infiltration, and demographic saturation.
    Universal Jihad exists and no amount liberal “political correctness” is going to wish it away. It is here on the soil of the United States right this minute. Its openly-declared goal is to destroy the United States as a system of government, to tear up our Constitution, and subject us all to Islamic totalitarianism under Sharia law.
    FP: Let me ask you this: World War I was won in four years, World War II was won in six years. But the Israel/Palestine and the India/Pakistan conflicts have not resolved after 62 years. Why do you think?

    Kumar: It’s simple: Muslims do not want peace, they want conquest. When they enter into an alleged “peace accord,” it is only a ploy to buy time to build their position for ultimate conquest. This is by their own creed: in Islam’s system of “ethics,” it is perfectly acceptable to lie to mere infidels.
    In the case of Israel, the West has never been 100% behind Israeli sovereignty. Both the West and Israel have always only wanted to buy truce with the Islamic nations–never peace. It is an endless case of appeasement that puts Neville Chamberlain to shame.
    As I have said before, and as history proves conclusively and invariably, Islam does not recognize pluralism, and Islam never wants a lasting peace with any non-Islamic people or states. When Muslims are in a relatively weak position they may offer truce–a temporary agreement–but never lasting peace. Even a cursory study of the treaties made by Muhammad proves at once that every Islamic treaty is merely another tactic toward ultimate conquest and domination. He set the standard for using treaties as a path to conquest.
    Since then, Islam has been waging a relentless war for the past 1,400 years against every non-Muslim within their reach. In the last century, technological advances have extended the reach of the Muslim world considerably. Anybody who believes that it’s suddenly going to change–for any reason, through any amount of “diplomacy”–is either grossly uninformed or delusional.
    Islamic imperialists have no desire at all for peaceful coexistence with Israel. They want to annihilate the “Zionist Entity.” By the way, during the last 60 years, Israel has absorbed more than a million Sephardic Jews from Arab countries. The Arab nations, on the other hand, refuse to absorb two million Palestinians. It’s a sad irony that two million Palestinians are considered so important while at the same time the suffering inflicted upon 50 million Kurdish people by Muslim nations goes almost unnoticed, unremarked.
    Muslims do not recognize the right to existence of either Israel or India. They simply consider them roadblocks to world conquest that need to be removed, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes. Universal Jihad is infinite, endless war against the infidel. It has been formally, blatantly declared. To the Muslim, Jewish Israel and Hindu India are nothing more than inferior infidel nation-states that must be torn down and brought under Islamic control.
    Remember this: Kashmir was a Hindu land continuously for 5,000 years. That’s over twice as long as the time that has passed since the birth of Christ. Islam went there as an imperial force, subjugated the local people, and conquered them, both politically and demographically, after 5,000 years of Hindu peace and civilization. Hence, today the Kashmiri Hindus are refugees in their own land. They have been reduced to a minority.
    It is not Kashmir alone. Now Muslims of India wants Mughalstan, the Land of Mugal empire. They want to build an Islamic state from Pakistan to Bangladesh that includes the entirety of north India.
    Every year, we are paying Islamic tribute to Pakistan, Egypt, and Palestinians in hopes of maintaining a tenuous truce. We are not really giving them “aid.” It is nothing but Islamic tribute to keep them at bay.
    It’s really too simple for anyone to try to complicate it: Islam wants the entire world to submit. India and Israel are simply two obstacles or roadblocks to that goal. If they can get Israel and India to disappear from the face of earth, Islamic Umma–community, or “nation” in the larger sense–would be one unified imperialism from Morocco to Indonesia. Then it would be Europe’s turn to be annihilated.
    FP: How do we best win the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq in your opinion?
    Kumar: It can’t be overstated or said too many times that these are merely the current fronts of open conflict in Universal Jihad. In fact, it plays into the purposes of Universal Jihadists for the Western world to be fixated on isolated actions in various geographical locations, and thereby never see the bigger picture.
    Universal Jihad is an ideology, a doctrine, that is fixed and unchanging. Waging battles of force and military action alone– especially on Islam’s home turf–and continuing to send troops out as reaction to the latest flare-ups or hot-spots in Islam’s endless war will never succeed. Never.
    That’s also why the idea of a “War on Terror” is absurd. Terrorism is nothing more than one of the many technique and tactics used to advance Islam’s political ideology. On this subject of terrorism, groups like the Taliban are a bunch of obedient foot soldiers. They are what Karl Marx called the “lumpen-proletariat.” Allow me to direct your attention to the fact that we never see Islamic Imams–religious leaders–blowing themselves up. If martyrdom is such a high holy act, as Islam’s leaders preach, why aren’t they the ones strapping on the explosives? It’s a curious case of “do as I say, not as I do.”
    Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan form the Axis of Universal Jihad. Unless and until we address the leaders of this Axis of Jihad, and the militaristic ideology of world domination that is their chief export, there is no possibility for peace in the future for humanity.
    The real power behind Universal Jihad, in all of its manifestations, lies with the Pakistani ISI–the intelligence services of Pakistan–along with the Pakistani military, the Pakistani feudal elite, and the Islamic theological leaders. As a nation-state, Pakistan exists for two reasons: its pathological hatred of India and Hindus, and its parasitic dependence on American aid. Their leaders’ battle cry is always “Islam in danger” when they want to stoke the fires of Jihad, and of course Muslims are commanded by the Quran to go forth immediately when called to fight by their Islamic leaders. (part -1)

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    indian UNITED STATES Says:

    stop this non-sense Chirag… this is not about Gujarati …or Muslims ..it is about Indians….u should consider yourself as bhartiya before being judge-mental through religion.

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    Ashish INDIA Says:

    “9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.” Quran Chapter 9 Verse 5…… This is one of the reasons why riots happen in India alongwith 2:191, 2:216, 3:28, 4:74 etc. RSS, VHP are organizations whose presence is very important in our society as a symbol of Hindu strength. I hope people recognize that the theory “Politicians divide us but all citizens of India are united” is a hoax. Quran causes the divide.

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    xyz UNITED STATES Says:

    Bunch of Losers!!!

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    Karthikeyan M INDIA Says:

    Dear Admin

    I have nothing against the content of your website, seems extremely genuine, a casual reading of this website would probably exonerate narendra Modi of all the allegations he faces.

    I am, however, confused when I take this and the other goings on together and put it on a single plate, let me explain

    1. Gujarat riots has and will be the achilles heel of BJP for times to come, if the information provided by you is freely available, it is possible for BJP to get rid of their communal image and don a progressive face, then why is the BJP not making any use of this?, is the BJP not aware of the facts? I do not believe so since this is not so far down in History, another arguement can be infighting amongst BJP leaders, but the question is whether the infighting is such that they would commit political suicide together?

    2. There have been various agencies which are probing the riots, have you ever appeared before those agencies and provided them with these documents?

    3. You have produced contents from various newspapers, how sure are you that the correspondents had documentary evidence and that it was not heresay

    4. If there are indeed documents available to prove the truth of the riots, why are all agencies Supreme Court of this country included are dragging their feet, brings me to the basic question did you make these documents available to them? if not why not?

    5. Will you, instead of keeping this a mere propaganda, try to pursue cases in courts of law in India?

    You see why I am confused, I am not challenging anything which you have re-produced but the fact that none of this is public for quiet sometime really disturbs me and makes me question the veracity of what has been given here, waiting to hear from you

    Regards

    Karthik

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    Dear Admin

    I have nothing against the content of your website, seems extremely genuine, a casual reading of this website would probably exonerate narendra Modi of all the allegations he faces.

    I am, however, confused when I take this and the other goings on together and put it on a single plate, let me explain

    1. Gujarat riots has and will be the achilles heel of BJP for times to come, if the information provided by you is freely available, it is possible for BJP to get rid of their communal image and don a progressive face, then why is the BJP not making any use of this?, is the BJP not aware of the facts? I do not believe so since this is not so far down in History, another arguement can be infighting amongst BJP leaders, but the question is whether the infighting is such that they would commit political suicide together?

    Answer: There are 2 kinds of people in the BJP- those who are ideologically committed and those who are not. Those who are not, do not bother to take too much trouble to correct this. Among those who are, very few have this knowledge. . BJP now has all this information, but doesnt seem to make any use of it. It could be due to sheer brain paralysis, or due to their ‘some secret strategy’ or any other reeason. One leader of the RSS said that “The perception that ‘Muslims were taught a lesson’ in Gujarat” is there in the outside world. Many Hindus are happy with Narendra Modi for that and they will feel very disappointed if the truth comes out, that even in Gujarat what happened was not one-sided.” This was in May 2008. He also said that had Modi lost the 2007 Gujarat polls, then there would have been a need to bring out all these things, but since Modi won, this subject is closed and there is no need to bring it out again.

    2. There have been various agencies which are probing the riots, have you ever appeared before those agencies and provided them with these documents?

    Answer: We have no locus standi to do this. We have given this information to many high ups. We think some of this information may have been given to the agencies by some people who were probed, such as Narendra Modi himself in his questioning with SIT on 27 March 2010.

    3. You have produced contents from various newspapers, how sure are you that the correspondents had documentary evidence and that it was not heresay

    Answer: Very sure. We also have official records which match absolutely with the newspapers’ reports. Most of the information that we have taken is from very biased anti-BJP papers who have made huge allegations on BJP and Narendra Modi- such as The Times of India, The Hindu, The Indian Express etc. These papers have lied AGAINST Narendra Modi, so there is no reason why these papers will report facts in favour of Narendra Modi wrongly. If these anti-BJP papers have written these facts in favour of Narendra Modi, then they must be true, and the truth may be even more. For example, The Hindu reported on 1 March 2002 that on 28 Feb, the first day of the riots, 10 people were shot dead by police. What it did not report was that at least 2 others were also shot dead outside Ahmedabad (something reported by The Telegraph), and that 16 were also injured, and that police arrested as many as 700 people on the first day, even though the situation was out of control, or that 827 preventive arrests were made, etc. Actually, the bias of these papers can be seen from the fact that not one of them reported the steps taken by the administration fully. Some papers reported some steps, others some steps, which had to compiled together.

    Also, we have official records which also state the same things.

    4. If there are indeed documents available to prove the truth of the riots, why are all agencies Supreme Court of this country included are dragging their feet, brings me to the basic question did you make these documents available to them? if not why not?

    Answer: As said earlier, we have no locus standi to make these documents available to the courts. We have tried to give them to those concerned and hope they use them. We also have original documents of these things. What we tried to do after writing this book in May 2007 was to create a website. We were saying for 1 year to many on the need to create a website- but no help was got. Finally in May 2008 with the help of someone in USA we managed to launch this site, on our own.

    5. Will you, instead of keeping this a mere propaganda, try to pursue cases in courts of law in India?

    Answer: We have advocated filing of defamation suits against the media in general, and Tehelka in particular.The author is a 23-year old guy who wrote this book when he was 19. The idiots advised him to file a case at 19 (how can he do that- when he had no lawyers, no experience, no locus standi and he was a student etc). We have talked to many senior lawyers here about filing defamation cases, who have tried to contact a lawyers’ association. There is a limit to what we can do.

    You see why I am confused, I am not challenging anything which you have re-produced but the fact that none of this is public for quiet sometime really disturbs me and makes me question the veracity of what has been given here, waiting to hear from you

    Answer: We have tried our best to make this public. The author used to write many articles for many papers (none of which was published by any paper). Even RSS weekly Organiser hasn’t published his one article on the post-Godhra riots, though it has on Godhra and other issues. Organiser has also published some articles by others in bringing out the truth of the riots. The editor of weekly Organiser says that Organiser will not keep on raising the issue of the Gujarat riots and will move on- the media wants to stick to 2002 and ignore the work done in Gujarat. One Marathi daily from Nagpur published his article in 2005. At last many in the BJP and RSS are awakening about the need to make this information public. You may give a thanx to the author for helping in achieve this!

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    IndianEngineer SAUDI ARABIA Says:

    You people are stooges of RSS. You are the followers of Golwalkars legacy. Your ideology killed Gandhi, Your ideology divided Hindus between n number of castes.
    If RSS is working for humanity, then will you advocate for a BHNAGI to be made as Shankaracharya? Will RSS ever appoint a Dalit as Priest? Will RSS make a woman as its Sarsanghchalak?
    Will RSS support reservations for Dalits and Backwards?
    Really you people are shame on humanity.

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    indian AUSTRALIA Says:

    @Indian engineer can you pin point exactly what incorrect this site has written? Prove this site wrong. Refute them and bring your proofs. And for the record RSS has supported dalit reservation always. See k sudarshans speech on dussera in nagpur on 4 oct 2003 and mohan bhagwats speech on 6 oct 2011. For women there is a separate wing called Rashtra Sevika Sammiti which has a woman as its pramukh sanchalika i.e. chirf who is pramila medhe. Look at the service done by RSS to dalits and in calamities. Hatred is caused by those who believe Quran is gods word and quran orders them to convert or kill. Read 9:5,8:39,8:12,9:14,9:17, 9:28,9:29,9:39,9:110,9:123,8:65, etc etc.

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    Indian in Australia AUSTRALIA Says:

    http://www.islaminindia.org/category/13-evidence-that-islam-is-false/logical-proofs
    1- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/would-a-true-god-keep-80-humans-unaware-of-islam-his-%E2%80%98only-true-religion%E2%80%99-241

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    Shivaji Says:

    This debate is a insult of gujrat progress actually media ndtv india is totally antihindu .they willnot discuss hindu discrimnation in kashmir bangladesh and pakistan but only discuss gujrat riot ehsan jafri not godhard train massacre shame to antihindu antination reporter.thanks

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    Shivaji Says:

    Hindu of bangladesh is crying daily one bangladeshi hindu women is raped and murdered by jihadi element .in fiji hindu pm has outed in power .in pakistan hindus are murdered .but media doesnot give attention .be united i am not rss people i am a hindustani be active my hindu brothers ye phir na banaye pakistan isliye jeet lo ye hindustan.we want only peace and humanity and this will give development of the india.thanks

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    Raj vardhan Says:

    1. I personally feel u have enough evidence to drag this biased media to court for misleading this country , what action u r going to take against media ? If not , why not ?

    A suggestion …… Convert it into every regional language so that it can connect every part of indian region nd can reach to masses …… Please do this ….. !

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    Thank you for your suggestion! Yes this was on our minds as well. We are planning to get this translated in Hindi first. And then into other languages. And yes, we have approached lawyers for cases as well. And we assure you that soon, within few weeks you will see…

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    Renuka Shiroya INDIA Says:

    Sir,
    Kindly send me post-address.
    Thanks,
    ……Renuka.

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    Whose post address and why Madam?

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    Sai UNITED STATES Says:

    Sir, I am not an expert in the arguments.
    But I can tell you I am not happy with BJP or 2002. The former because:
    I am one of the large constituency in the India that is instinctively uncomfortable with the congress culture. But it is more difficult to support a party that is inconsistent at times and cannot bury its extremist thinking. I am Hindu, Brahmin, but I feel it makes more sense to me when I say I am an Indian. It may be correct to be a child organization of RSS or VHP legally, but when you have a stature as a national party it is better to behave liberally on the issue of Hinduism. I don’t say BJP condemns Islam. But its rhetoric is more Hindu. It is better if it avoids it. Congress is seen as secular because it doesn’t have the religion in its rhetoric, though bad and good exists in every religion and party. I believe BJP will have a great future if it revisits its approach on Hinduism.
    And for 2002, it is worst, because it exposed the limitations of BJP not only to India, but also to the world. Congress lost Gujarat for more than a while but benefitted in exploiting the minority vote. It is just threating in the name of 2002. And it makes me more angry that because of this, the liberals who also suffered from Muslim appeasement, lost a chance to say, ‘BJP IS THE REAL SECULAR PARTY WHICH DOESN’T APPEASE ANYONE’.

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    Raj Says:

    @indian engnr U muslims live in india bt sprt pakistan. I hw seen it many times. Would u muslims declare fatwa against any terrorist.? Y u oppressed hindus frm early age .? Y dere is muslims invld in terrorism tagging it as jihad on d name of rlgn . As far as Rss , here anyone of any cast clr n rlgn can b a membr of Rss by just saying VANDE MATRAM. Y u dont raise voice agnst muslim atrocities on hindus in porkistan n bangladesh? Shame on muslims like u bt nt on all.

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    Ravi Raj patil INDIA Says:

    It is impossible for you people to convince this so called minarets. It is better for you people to just stick to your guns (words) fallow narendra modiji this people wants to be ruled. Look at the history of world where ever there is or was dictatorship or monarchy they obay, democracy dont suit them.

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    Srini INDIA Says:

    Hi

    The Hindus to be victorious should do the following

    1. Open temple priest job to all caste people
    2. Translate Sanskrit mantras to local language. So that people understand what is told to god.
    3. Help fellow hindus. If you are in interview panel help job less hindus to get job. If there are 10 vacancies show mercy and give 1 job to a poor or less fortunate hindu.
    4. North – south divide should go. Love all hindus
    5. Realise kashmir. NOrht east, Srilanka . It is hindus who were killed . But media says ethinic violence. Clever tactics to fool hindus
    6. Realise – Srilankan Buddhism is against hinduism. Srilanka is not friend of india
    7. Dont spend huge money and go to temples far away. GIve that money to hindu charity organisations. Buy clothes especially under garments to orphans. Help hindus

    This this the first step for Hindu India.

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    Rajarshi Dhar Says:

    You guys were already proved wrong when the Supreme Court judgement declared the sitting MLA of Gujarat Govt. Babu Bajrangi and Women and Child Minister Maya Kodani were as perpetrators of heinous crimes – genocide. If the ministers of a state govt. supposed to protect its citizens are engaged in selective killing of minority then I think this can be termed as Govt. involvment and dereliction of duty towards state. I don’t know what you call it, maybe patriotism. Atleast I hope you respect a Supreme Court decision. Also please explain me why the innocent police officers are being harassed by Gujarat Govt. like Rahul Sharma, IPS, Sanjeev Gupta IPS, if the Gujarat Govt. has nothing to hide or feel ashamed of. I do not have anything to say but I can only smile at your blindness. You are in deep darkness

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    “You guys were already proved wrong when the Supreme Court judgement declared the sitting MLA of Gujarat Govt. Babu Bajrangi and Women and Child Minister Maya Kodani were as perpetrators of heinous crimes – genocide. If the ministers of a state govt. supposed to protect its citizens are engaged in selective killing of minority then I think this can be termed as Govt. involvment and dereliction of duty towards state. I don’t know what you call it, maybe patriotism. Atleast I hope you respect a Supreme Court decision. Also please explain me why the innocent police officers are being harassed by Gujarat Govt. like Rahul Sharma, IPS, Sanjeev Gupta IPS, if the Gujarat Govt. has nothing to hide or feel ashamed of. I do not have anything to say but I can only smile at your blindness. You are in deep darkness”

    You are wrong. Babu Bajrangi had nothing to do with the government- he was a leader of the Bajrang Dal in 2002- which too he quit soon after 2002 and for many years before 2012 he was not a member of Bajrang Dal at all. YOU are wrong on so many factors in this comment, The Supreme Court judgment has not convicted either Bajrangi or Kodnani, the TRIAL COURT of Jyotsna Yagnik has, Jyotsna Yagnik was once a junior lawyer of known Congress leader Manubhai Palkhiwala. Maya Kodnani still can appeal in the Higher courts and get totally acquitted- thats a diiferent issue, right now we have to assume her guilty. She was NOT A MINISTER but just an MLA at that time. Any MLA in his or her individual capacity if held guilty for rioting does not mean the government was involved. The Congress’ leaders and workers too have been declared guilty- like for roasting of Hindus in Godhra, and also killing of Hindus post-Godhra. They are also accused in killing of Muslims post-Godhra. Does that mean that the whole Congress party is culpable?
    You are totally wrong on facts, repeatedly calling it a SUPREME COURT DECISION when it is a trial court decision. Also the officers like Sanjiv Bhat, R Shreekumar all have been exposed in Myth 19, which you obviously do not seem to have read, or chosen to ignore to know their true face. Far from being vindictive, the Gujarat Government has been far too soft on these dishonest frauds for being of being called vindictive by the media. Do not make sweeping generalizations. You are absolutely blind and have not refuted a single argument given by us, and given totally wrong acts while trying to sit on Kodnani and Bajrangi convictions. Kodnani was just an MLA in 2002 NOT A MINISTER. She was Minister only for a brief period from Dec 2007 to Feb 2009. First be correct on facts and then come to refute us.

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    Goutam Kumar Kole SINGAPORE Says:

    Any riot is unfortunate and should not happen. But in the past, before and after independence, there are many riots reported to happen. But Gujarat riot is most famous and known to all; courtesy: Communal Congress and Pseudo secular Communists. Gujarat riot is a politicized case. People always talk about Gujarat riot but they forget about the unfortunate burning the Ram-sevaks living inside the train. People never ask question why Gujarat riot happened. Actually common people’ memory is very short. They are not supposed to remember what had happened in Gujarat in 2002. But it is the anti-BJP parties (I rather call them anti-national and real communal)have kept the memory of 2002 riot alive in the mind of voters just to be benefited in the election. Communalism, Religion should not be the agenda of election in modern times. Only development should be agenda of election. Now it is the time of preparation of 2014 general election. So we should talk only about Development. But the corrupt UPA has nothing to talk about development. So they want to keep the communalism agenda alive. It is not BJP, it is, indeed, Congress is responsible for poor growth of Muslim. BJP ruled India for for 6 years. But Congress ruled more than 50 years. So we should ask first what Congress really has for the minorities. Congress has done only appeasement politics and no development. Only BJP can provide extensive growth of India which includes Muslims also.

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    Amit AUSTRALIA Says:

    Those who all are talking from Foreign country’s…
    You’ll don’t have rights to talk unless you face it, u’l may be happily staying out of India come here and face it.
    if u’l have time then watch videos of Owaisi brothers, what was the necessity to building party naming Muslim is there any party naming Hindu? You get to see only Janata, peoples party.

    Let me ask u’l one question.
    Hindus have any problem with Buddhists, Christians, etc… ?
    No.
    We don’t even have problem with Muslims.
    Its muslims who are taking first step.

    Mahatma Gandhi Ji made mistake.
    He should have let all the muslims to go to Pakistan.

    Lets talk about Real History.
    Hindus didn go any where to conquer any people.
    Islamic(muslim) ppl came to Hindustan,Bharat,India looted and destroyed our ancient Temples.
    After them Britishers came Because India was Rich.

    If you give India in the hands of Muslims then they’l make another Pakistan.
    MIND IT…
    opponents reply me.

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    colonel. INDIA Says:

    Also include the names of Dileep Padgaonkar, Arnab Goswami who are part of this great conspiracy to demomise and demolish this great leader of our Country Sh Narendra Modi…..hats to you Naren bhai what you have stood up to in this last 12 years needs a super human endurance. And mind you they have not called it a day as yet….Diggys, Tiwaris, Sibals, Renukas of the world are still at it to please their masters in Italy and still leaving no efforts to spread their lies

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    Jyoti Ranjan Chouhan Says:

    Lets forget the tragic situation whatever happened & build a healthy & disciplined BHARAT.Share your hands for our MATRUBHUMI.We people are the sons & daughters of the soil & there is nothing called HINDU,MUSLIM,SIKH,CHRISTIAN,OR OTHERS,We live in the best country in the world,where respect for every human being is there.Everybody has the rights to fight for bad.Lets don’t fight in the name of religion.We are all equal & we have one mother BHARATMATA. Lets respect & protect her . She desperately need for our help.Justice has became a word now-a-days.There is a need of good governance in this country to irradicate corruption,illiteracy,mafiaraj etc.The country divides in the name strong & weak.Lets promise this moment that this should not happen again. There should not be a partial nature in the name of cast ,creed or religion etc. Importantly the misutilization of power & wealth by the stronger society of the people.Most importantly when choosing your leader by which ideology the country runs & wheather he or she is capable to run your district ,panchayat or state or Country. Don’t come across the VOTE BANK POLITICS or false promises politician mostly use for VOTE BANK. They don’t even hesitate to divide among RELIGION to RELIGION,caste to caste,community to community .Don’t believe at all.Use your full hand when choosing your leader.Spread this message ,don’t keep it. MERA BHARAT MAHAN

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    imran UNITED STATES Says:

    Dear brothers,

    Some are telling that it is a retaliation for Godhra. I don’t accept with that. If it is correct then the bomb blasts 1993 in Mumbai were also right. As per the Sri krishna commision appointed after the Blasts, it is concluded that the bomb blasts done in retaliation. Islam doesn’t permit these kind of behaviour. This is just like “if I killed your family member then you started killing your neighbors.” How correct is this procedure. Some are telling that “we should forget the past.” Can you forget if someone had killed your brothers or sisters? I don’t support any terrorist activity and I consider killing any innocent is a terrorist activity. Islam doesn’t support killing any innocent one. It is a religion of peace. the below article I have read explains you better:

    The Qur’an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle — i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Quran are in this context.
    There are some specific verses that are very often “snipped” out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing “jihadism,” or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.
    “Slay Them” – If They Attack You First
    For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: “slay them wherever you catch them” (Quran 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are “they” that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
    “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter… But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful… If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression” (2:190-193).
    It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back — but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.
    “Fight the Pagans” – If They Break Treaties
    A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 — which in its snipped, out of context version could read: “fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).” Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
    This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them… (as quoted above).
    Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, “but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them… for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that “as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous.”
    Conclusion
    Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Quran. Nowhere in the Quran can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in ‘payback’ for another people’s alleged crimes.
    The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Quran 60:7-8):
    “It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
    God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just.”

    Read the Quran with translations and understand it. Don’t mention only one sentence and go out of context. Read it completely.

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    Dr S S Chadha INDIA Says:

    I do not understand the psychology of these secularists? They are still suffering from the inferiority complex of 1200 years of foriegn rule and licking the shoes of their masters { They will only come to their senses when their own mothers and sisters are humiliated by these Jehadis .

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    Kalyana Krishnan Says:

    Please include the name of the tehelka editor in the list of Modi hater as she is vociferous in expressing her views in all channels

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    Deba prasad Parija INDIA Says:

    No need of this debate now.As the then Prime minister Atal behari Bajpayee was too much upset and hurt in the role of CM Modi,that he advised him TO PERFORM RAJDHARM in public.It means to perform his duty to save all citizens they may be Muslims or Hindus.So was he also joined anti Modi and Anti Sangh Parivar people?????

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    SAUMIL SHAH INDIA Says:

    We should understand one thing first, india has so many other major issues to deal with require strong government power & willingness. We are just happy with blame games but in many ways we people have to think mature & lead the india with practical approach. In my opinion 2002 trial is processing under of apex court & with respect of this we should move & think of better india. Modi is a right person to lead india.

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    Chandrakant Shetty Says:

    Please add Karan Thapar to the Narendra Modi hate list.

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    Prashant Gaur INDIA Says:

    I react very straight. Hindus are insensitive in religious and political activities , hence are misunderstood as covered. Muslim are very much sensitive in both religious and political activities so all political influence they receive from political parties. Most of the so called intellectuals feel that anti Hindu articles or reporting will provide them good coverage even by ruling parties so they are easily managed by parties for their purpose . This had happened in the regime of britishers also.
    If Hindu react against government or Muslim ,this intellectuals find a very good opportunity to show their anger against hindu and receive complements by their guardians. The politics of hate is the baby of this nexus just to grab the vote.
    The situation is very alarming, if a sheep can fight with lion to save its existence, the situation is being created by politicians for hindus to fight for their existence.

    I urge to politicians and these pets not to play with the sentiments of both Hindu and Muslim and treat them as Indian, otherwise the situation will go worsen and will be uncontrolled.

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    Just telling for the fact that Atal Bihari Vajpayee infact said that Modi is following Rajdharma only. See this full video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7M8ED08Uk

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    admin AUSTRALIA Says:

    No need of this debate now.As the then Prime minister Atal behari Bajpayee was too much upset and hurt in the role of CM Modi,that he advised him TO PERFORM RAJDHARM in public.It means to perform his duty to save all citizens they may be Muslims or Hindus.So was he also joined anti Modi and Anti Sangh Parivar people?????

    Just telling for the fact that Atal Bihari Vajpayee infact said that Modi is following Rajdharma only. See this full video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7M8ED08Uk

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    kiran patil INDIA Says:

    Good work . . . keep it up . . .

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    Sabyasachi Says:

    You support CON-GRACE
    then your soldiers are butchered and beheaded in borders
    first hang that
    bloody traitors who allowed our soldiers to be butchered
    Imprison that minister who gave clean chit to pakistan
    traitors plundered wealth
    Disrespected our Ex-General

    speak about Anti-Sikh 1984 Neile 1983
    paid media you will never do that
    but they would fabricate facts about Godhra

    NaMo-PM
    Swamy -Finance

    Super Power of 2020

    all support to Namo

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    charumathi INDIA Says:

    The then state govt could be guilty or innocent of the riots. But could you tell me why the state government gave the thumbs up to the VHP for the “Bandh” in the first place, while there was no evidence that the sabarmati express was set on fire by muslims? Why was there no investigation done prior to the bandh to ascertain that muslims indeed had conspired the burning of the train?

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    Ibr CANADA Says:

    The real truth has been exposed. Read at http://www.truthofgujarat.com

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    Dog ate Dog INDIA Says:

    I think you missed someone to challenge – R B Sreekumar.

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    salmaan Says:

    1.When NARENDRA MODI said in jan/feb 2013 maya kodnani will be asked for hang in supreme court,udbhav thakre told thats an attack on hindus,what does that mean?
    2. in patna bomb blast near rally recently,modi visited death ones within a week,how many times narendra modi visited genocide victims in last 11 years?
    3.what do you mean by terrorism? is this terrorism word implies to all?
    4. who said this famous line ” every muslim is not a terrorist but every terrorist is a muslims”?
    5. how many hindu convicteds are hanged for Gujarat genocide?
    6.how many hindus are hanged to death for mass killings of muslims since 1947?
    7. rss gas been banned for 4 times and vhp for 3 times,why they can openly throw venom on muslims and not simi which was banned for once?
    8. narendra modi said,for every action there is equal and opposite reaction,don’t you think government should have taken neutral support than being HINDU NATIONALIST?
    9.when sohrabbuddin and others were exposing modi’s role in genocide,modi encounter then fakely, as said by cbi,what was the need for modi of doing this?
    10. why modi should not be killed?
    11. when everyone is waiting for supreme court’s decision on babri masjid demolition,bjp says it will build ram mandir there,bjp respects our judiciary? if yes,then demolition of babri masjid was also illegal whose convicts are iron,steel mens now are roaming like local dogs……if bjp don’t respect our judiciary then do they have any moral rights of staying in india?
    12. modi is a rss agent,rss don’t say that india to be made hindu rashtra in which other religion peoples are secondary?
    13. do modi allow constrution of any new mosqeu in moti nagar now? if yes,i will statrt propagating for building of new mosque,if no,why?
    14. till supreme court’s order,modi did nt gived scholarships for minorities,which they deserved,if this is unconstituional,then sc/st students are getting such benefits?
    15.why modi never said what he did during genocide?
    16.why modi did not expressed regrets officially? when others say,he regrets?. He is owning 4000 fb pages,he can do that atleast with his owned media,otherwise.
    17. why vajpayee said,modi was not following raj dharma and till now he sticks to his view,he did not folloew raj dharma.
    18. why vajpayees niece also has the same thought abt modi?
    19. shivraj singh chauhan had wored skull cap,why did nt modi anywhere,any time till now?
    20. why modi never said,muslims are also indians,they also have equal right on this land till now?
    21. why modi never said,what he will do for muslims if he comes to power?
    22.why modi never visited any muslim holy places,while he visited many hindus…..?
    23. if bjp loses out in mp,delhi,chattisgarh,rajasthan,mizoram,then how long maya kodnani and babu bajrangi will live?
    I WANT ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS THAN ARGUEMENT OR REVERSE QUESTIONS……

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    salmaan Says:

    till now,we muslims are called pakistanis,because of this saffronists.we lived in this soil,we will die in this soil onyl,whatever attempts saffronists makes…..

  59. 59
    salmaan Says:

    when any political leaders follow different culture of india,no one raises questions,if any political party leaders follow islam culture we feel,this man remmebers we are indian. at this time,bjp says,vote bank politics irrespective of timing.why? do bjp ever follows little culture public at any time of course….?

  60. 60
    salmaan Says:

    modi often gives example that in 1969,ahmedabad,5000 muslims were massacred under congress rule,we dont bother who ruled at that time,we only cares who were responsible for that massacre and killed 5000 muslims and how many were sentenced top death?
    in 1992,why was trishul given in the hands of hindus? who chants india is a hindu country and bolongs to hindu religions only?

  61. 61
    sagar INDIA Says:

    Totally support salman …..modi is a terrorist and a list ….babu bagrangis vedio which got him convicted verifies it

  62. 62
    sagar INDIA Says:

    *murders ,the vedio which got babu bajrangi’s convicted

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    Abdul salam Says:

    A chilling technique, absent in pogroms unleashed hitherto but very much in evidence this time in a large number of cases, was the deliberate destruction of evidence. Barring a few, in most instances of sexual violence, the women victims were stripped and paraded naked, then gang-raped, and thereafter quartered and burnt beyond recognition … The leaders of the mobs even raped young girls, some as young as 11 years old … before burning them alive … Even a 20-day-old infant, or a fetus in the womb of its mother, was not spared.[71]

    According to Vandana Shiva “Young boys have been taught to burn, rape and kill in the name of Hindutva”.[72]

    Dionne Bunsha, writing on the Gulbarg Society massacre and murder of Ehsan Jafri, has said that Jafri begged the crowd to spare the women, he was dragged into the street and forced to parade naked for refusing to say “Jai Shri Ram”. He was then beheaded and thrown onto a fire, following this the rioters returned and burned Jafri’s family, including two small boys, to death. After the massacre Gulbarg burned for a week

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    Niks AUSTRALIA Says:

    Mr. Abdul salam 1st that’s not what Hindus teaches to their generation, its your religion which teaches young generation. Hindus have only started to do that because of your actions. Its Islam who started 1st & now you are asking why the reaction? good.

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