On the 27th February, the Ahmedabad bound Sabarmati Express, carrying karsevaks from Ayodhya was barbarously attacked and burnt at Godhra in which around 60 karsevaks laid their lives. Gayatri Panchal a young eleventh class student was also amongst those who were returning from Ayodhya. She is a surviving witness to the inhuman atrocious cruelty in which right in front of her eyes two of her sisters and parents were burnt alive.
Harshadbhai Panchal, a resident of Ramol, left for karseva at Ayodhya on the 22nd February, together with his wife Neetaben and three daughters, Pratiksha, Chhaya and Gayatri. His sister in law, her son, her neighbour Poojaben and her would be husband were also accompanying him.All of them were returning to Ahmedabad along with several other karsevaks. Harshadbhai and his family, Poojaben and her husband were in one compartment. While his sister in law and her husband and their son were in another compartment.
The only survivor out of these ten, Gayatri, says about this horrible event that, “On the 27th morning, at around 8 a.m. the train left Godhra Station. The karsevaks were loudly chanting the Ram Dhoon. The train had hardly gone ½ Km., when it suddenly stopped. Somebody had perhaps pulled the chain to stop the train. Before anybody could know what had happened, we saw a huge mob approaching the train. People were carrying weapons like Gupti, Sphere, Swords and such other deadly weapons in their hands and were throwing stones at the train. We all got frightened and some how closed the windows and the doors of the compartment. People outside were shouting loudly, saying “Maro, Kato” and were attacking the train. A loudspeaker from the Masjid close by was also very loudly shouting “Maro, Kato, Laden na dushmano ne Maro.” These attackers were so fierce that they managed to break the windows and close the doors from outside before pouring petrol inside and setting the compartment on fire so that nobody could escape alive. A number of attackers entered the compartment and were beating the karsevaks and looting their belongings. The compartments were drenched in petrol all over. We were terrified and were shouting for help but who was there to help us? A few policemen were later seen approaching the compartment but they were also whisked away by the furious mob outside. There was so much of smoke in the compartment that we were unable to see each other and also getting suffocated. Going out was too difficult, however myself and Pooja some how managed to jump out through the windows. Pooja was hurt in her back and was unable to stand up. People outside were trying to hold us to take us away but we could escape and run under the burning train and succeeded in crawling towards the cabin. I have seen my parents and sisters being burnt alive right in front of my eyes.” Luckily, by the grace of God, Gayatri was not hurt too badly. “We somehow managed to go up to the station and meet our aunty (Masi). After the compartments were completely burnt the crowd started withering. We saw that even amongst them were men, women and youngsters like us both male as well as female. I returned here after evacuating the dead bodies of my family members at Godhra Station. Out of 18 of us ten had laid their lives.”
Gayatri’s father was a carpenter whereas her mother worked in the Madhyanha Bhojana Yojna (i.e. Mid-day meal scheme), her elder sister Pratiksha was serving in the Collectorate.
In spite of what had happened, Gayatri still feels that she would any time once again venture to go for karseva. She says, “I shall not allow the sacrifice of my parents to go in vein.”
(Source: VSK, Gujarat and various English dailies- such as The Indian Express– 28 Feb 2002)
Among some details of the brutality, an event that reveals the killing of a Dalit karsevak in the Godhra massacre is worth reproducing. The burning of innocent karsevaks alive was an event that made one’s hair stand erect. Umakant Govindbhai of Saijpur was 25 years of age and working in the Collector’s Office.On 27th February Umakant was in S-6 coach of Sabarmati Express. A mob of 2000 Muslims swarmed on this coach with Petrol cans, stones and sticks.They first threw stones on it and as the doors and windows were closed, threw petrol and set the entire coach on fire. Umakant, who was trying to break the closed door and get away, was pelted with stones by them and pushed with bamboos inside the coach.
This sort of massacre was not seen anywhere in Independent India. Nor could this compare with any other event-such as the murder of Indira Gandhi, or the post-Godhra riots, or any of the brutal murders of the opponents of the CPI(M) in Kannur district of Kerala. The terrorist attack on the Akshardham temple in Gandhinagar or various other temples in India or deadly bomb blasts in various places, in no way, compare with this horrific massacre.
Godhra was by no means an act of terrorism. Most right-thinking people claim so. But terrorism is completely different. The terror is temporary, the pain is momentary. Indira Gandhi was done to death by a couple of bullets. It was a natural case of murder, albeit of a Prime Minister. Ordinary murders occurring anywhere are mostly the result of stabbing or bullet shots.
But Godhra was not that. It was much worse. It was an act of communalism and not real terrorism. ‘Terrorists have no religion’ is a statement parroted many times in the media by many people. But Godhra was not done by 1 or 2 terrorists. It was done by a mob, a mass mob of more than two thousand people, ordinary people, not terrorists undergone training in training camps. Not terrorists armed with AK 47, AK 56 rifles or grenades. They were locals, not foreigners. The local Muslims did the barbaric, communal and criminal act of Godhra.
The Indian Express of March 5 2002 reported on Godhra that Congress leaders are accused in Godhra:
1- Mehmud Hussain Kalota, convener of the Congress district minority cell and president of the Godhra municipality
2- Salim Abdul Ghaffar Sheikh, president of the Panchmahal Youth Congress
3- Abdul Rehman Abdul Majid Ghantia, a known Congress worker
4- Farroukh Bhana, secretary of the district Congress committee
5- Haji Bilal, a known Congress worker”
When 31 people were convicted for Godhra roasting, 2 Congress men were given LIFE IMPRISONMENT and 1 was given DEATH penalty out of the above 5. Abdul Rehman Abdul Majid Ghantia and Farroukh Bhana have got life imprisonment and Haji Bilal has got death penalty – 3 out of these 5.
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It hurts me deeply to see this and worse of all, it is being painted as an accident when the reality is so different. Why are journalists painting this as accident. Why should journalists become propagandists? What are they getting paid and by whom to spread these lies, something every Hindu need to be aware of.
This is just a clue at the hatred present in the ‘Kaum’ for the Hindus. Peaceful Muslims(whatever fraction exists….in the most Utopian of dreams), unaffected people like us and conspiracy theorists will always find this article a propaganda and deceit since this only appears in local news. The survivors are again harassed for their life so then the loud lie becomes history.
Good that the site owner has added a testimony of the survivor of the godhra attack, but can you please go ahead find hundreds of testimonies of survivors of the carnage after that?/ have you even dared post one of those testimonies?? testimonies that talk about
WOMEN BEING GANG RAPED
YOUNG GIRLS AS YOUNG AS 11 BEING GANG RAPED
WOMEN’S VAGINA BEING TORN APART
WOMEN’S WOMB BEING TORN APART
SMALL INFANTS BEING THROWN INTO FIRE…
PLEASE FIND SOME TIME AND GO GET THEIR TESTIMONIES TOO AND POST THEM HERE OR FOR HUMANITIES SAKE, STOP DIVING AND KILLING PEOPLE IN NAME OF FAITH AND THEN TRY TO JUSTIFY THINGS AS RIGHT AND WRONG BASED ON TESTIMONIES AND FACTS THAT ARE FABRICATED BY GOVERNMENTS!!
The SIT had found that many of those testimonials are cooked up.
You cannot hide truth for long…
yes Mr. Deepak,
When you don’t have anything else to prove both in argument or in life, the only option left is to swear by mother, father and sisters. It just shows how perverted the so called family of yours, including the great grandmothers that they could not teach you the right way. I do not feel a bit threatened or irritated by your swears, it just shows your culture.
Time will prove who is right, so I will wait for your news of disillusion and when you swear back on to your own mother and Father(s)
Going be the langauge and the tone used by ‘Deepak’ while presenting his pint of view I quite certain that this guy is a MUSLIM under an assumed Hindu name.
You’ll find guys like ‘Deepak’ on various blog sites, etc using foul langauge with an intention to provoke the other party.
I suggest you don’t get drawn into a slanging match with these jokers. Just present your facts AND the TRUTH in an even tone and leave it at that. Evetually guys like ‘Deepak’ will give up and go away. Do not give them any attention or importance.
did I forget to mention, im from delhi… 🙂
@Kiran. You are a truly idiot person. The claim that Laden supporting slogans were raised is done by a 16 year old girl, not by this site. This girl is a survivor to this inhuman massacre and she was shock for days after this. She lost her parents, saw them being burnt alive. And you will accuse that girl in shock of fabricating such stories on 27 Feb evening, great! HAVE SOME SHAME, HAVE SOME HUMANITY. STOP INSULTING THIS POOR GIRL WHO HAS BEEN ORPHANED.
“Then there are the eyewitness accounts of the survivors as well as the two drivers of Sabarmati Express, Rajendrarao Jadhav and Mukesh Pachauri, and two Assistant Station Masters (ASMs), R.P. Meena and A.K. Sharma. The two ASMs were on the second floor of the A-cabin signal tower near which the train was brought to a halt. Jadav told the investigators that when the train stopped, the two ASMs gestured to him, asking him to take the train ahead.
BLOCKHEAD when a survey was done of Muslims globally in 2001-02 after 9/11, 49 % regarded Laden as a hero. Are you telling me that no Indian Muslim is involved in terrorism? What about the hundreds of riots which Muslims start. Coimbatore blasts of 1998, MUSLIM LEAGUE IN KERALA, HURRIYT, KASHMIRI MUSLIMS, AFZAL GURU etc? Idiot, those who are terrorists and those who burn in daylight children in Godhra regard LADEN AS A HERO. AND THIS IS NOT THIS SITES ARGUMENTS but the account of a witness to this massacre.
MODERATORS, DELETE THIS INSULT TO THE GIRL BY THIS MAN.
It is better if I just hack into your LAN and delete your life MOHIT/MANTRI. But that will only serve a small purpose.
When there are EYE WITNESS COUNTS for train carnage, those wre all BELIEVED and ACCEPED As facts by these hindu fakers..
And when hundreds of people are eyewtinesses to mass rapes, murders and killing of womens, children alike, then these so called “REAL HINDUS” say they are all fabricated.
How do we not know that the 16 year old girl WAS NOT WHITE WASHED by RSS?? It is true she lost her parents, but how do we know what she is saying is true? How do we for a fact anything that survivors are saying is tue about train burning??
I will tell you why, because those who suffer and die do not lie, same way hundreds of victims of POST GODHRA GENOCIDE are noy lying, because what they saw is what they are saying.
You know, I have actually realized, I am cauzing damage to my own cause by being so aggresive with the RSS Ideology, because your suster parties like MNS and shivsena are doing the dirty work for us.
Last week SHIV SAINKS wasted thousands of litres of milk to protest the RISING MILK COST, WAO!!! What a true what to show the love for country!!
And you idiots don;t realize, media shows all this to people, may be small portion of fanatics don’t change their mind about supporting you, but majority of people will go against BJP/RSS/VHP and never support your cause. This is the only reason, even though BJP is suc cessful in state elections, but at NATIONAL LEVEL, they will be defeated again and again, because people realize that to be able to carry a nation forward, we need to come out of this DIVIDE AND RULE policy!!
It is also shocking how BJP workers and leaders call CONGRESS corrupt and the one looting india, as if BJP is the only honest party in this whole country, BJP is as corrupt as congress if not less, so it does not matter who is more corrupt . If congress has looted india for 50 years on national stage, then BJP has looted respective indian states they have ruled all theseyears.NO ONE CAN DENY IT.
Anyways, your RSS cadres, please keep causing harm tov inncoent people, keep doing what you are doing, because as long as you idiots follow RSS, it will never be able to achieve its real goal of marinalizing minories in the name of AKHANDA HINDU RASHTRA…
AKHANDA MY ASS!! RSS KO DANDA DIYA KAYEGA EVERY TIME THEY BARK HINDU !! YOU ARE ALL FAKERS AND POSERS!!!
Well I have realized what Mr Ramesh Mantrri said. I will just say 1 answer- This 16 year old girl gave this story ON 27 FEB 2002 reported by all English dailies, seems very unlikely that anyone in shock will be able to fabricate lies tutored by others on the same day, and she did indeed lose her parents and sisters, so the claim is very credible.On the other hands stories by Muslim so-called ‘witnesses’ were concocted much after the actual incidents, and many of them contain horrible loopholes and contradictions and factual mistakes. This site has told the truth that no woman’s womb was cut open and foetus taken out, and Jafri’s daughters were not raped. Of course, every story given by Muslim witnesses is not false but those which are false must be refuted.
I can also reply in your language but I have realized there is no point in it.
so this 16 year old girl gave her statement to who?/ THE GUJARAT POLICE I am assuming?? 😀 Well enough said…
If GUJARAT POLICE and GUJARAT HIGH COURT JUSDGES cannot be trusted for their duty, why would anyone belive that the statements by this girl were infact recorded the very next day?
They have manipulated FIRs, removed evidence and even fabricated deaths to show that thesenwere infact communal riots and not GENOCIDE.
GUJARAT GOVERNMENT, GUJARAT POLICE AND GUJJU PATELS are all chhakkas and slave to sick hindu extremist ideology that gets its rootas from NAZI GERMAN leaders who tried to clean GERMANY once…
A foreign daily Portsmouth Herald reported-
“Sixteen-year-old Gayatri Panchal saw her mother, father and two sisters die before her eyes in the train fire as they returned home after participating in a religious ceremony at Ayodhya.
“We were sleeping and I opened my eyes when I felt the heat. I saw flames everywhere. My mother was in flames, her clothes were on fire,” she said. “Someone pulled me out of the compartment and then I saw my father’s body being taken out. He was covered in black. Then I fainted.””
THATS ALL SAALA DEEPAK HARAAMI. MAY YOU SUFFER 100 TIMES WORSE THAN THIS POOR 16 YEAR OLD GIRL DID. TALKING TO A FOOL FOUL MOUTHED HATE-FILLED INHUMAN BARBERER IS FOOLISHNESS IN ITSELF.
And this girl’s statements were recorded THE SAME DAY 27 FEB NOT THE NEXT DAY. IDIOT BRAINLESS SADIST, the english dailies the next day reported this, including ultra anti-BJP ones in the foreign media.
MODEARTORS DELETE THE COMMENTS INSULTING THIS GIRL WHO SPENT MONTHS IN SHOCK AFTERWARDS or I will come after you as well.
Bye Bye Deepak, you idiot, I wont respond to a sadist like you again…
Media/newspaper/Dailies ONLY REPORT WHAT OFFICIALS PROVIDE THEM.
DURING RIOTS, NO FOREIGN NEWSPAPER WAS COVERING THE RIOTS.
REMEMBER, THE GUJARAT LOCAL DAILES REPORTED ON FEB 28 THAT HINDU WOMEN WERE ABDUCTED , RAPED AND THEIR BREAST CUT OFF, for the sole purpose to incite mobs. And weeks after riots, they gave an publishing in one corner of the newspaper saying no such report was confirmed.
So please bare me the so called evidence that comes from any source is GUJARAT GOVT/ GUJARAT MEDIA AND GUJARATI COMMUNITY.
They are all anti-muslim, and would do anything to remain in power.
I am not saying that this girl is a liar, but that does not mean every world she is saying is hard lines truth. She could easily be fabricated…
Biggest proof of fabrication in the whole system is AMIT SHAH’S case, who is now clearly in good grip of LAW which proves that gujarat politicians, beaurocracy and extremist hindu groups will do anything to serve their purpose.
Like MODI kept silent and first let godhra happen, and then the real motive of riots happened, which got him rule in state for 3 times..
Just ask yoursefl, same person who is so famous in GUJARAT, is treated like a criminal in rest of india and wordwide?/ do hindus of rest of India don;t want a leader like MODI??
Because they are not carried away by his cheap game of communal divide and rule. This is the only reason hindu in gujarat support him, because he has created an environment fuill of fear and death, so they have to support his goverment or fear more riots…
OYE MANTRI, TU KYA RESPOND NAHI KAREGA MUJHE SAALE, JO INSAAN EK 16 SAAL KI LADKI KI STORY KE LIYE ITNA DUKHI HAI MAGAR HAZARON AUR BACCHE, AURATEIN AUR AADMI JO MAREIN, UNKE LIYE KUCH NAHI BOLTA, WO SABSE BADA KAMINA AUR PATHETIC INSAAN HAI.
The pain you are showing for one hindu girl, try to show 1 % of that towards victims of GENOCIDE THAT followed godbhra and then we will see your real sympathy for DEATH OF INNOCENT PEOPLE!!
@ Deepak, I will always come back to respond to you. It is Mohit Sharma who has decided not to reply to you- not me. Even if you are convinced that we two are the same person, the reality is different.
Ramesh Mantri, Canberra
Does secularism means to support muslims’ barbarism and to condemn the hindus for even their visits to holy place and their chanting of prayers. These ‘so called’ secular men are turd, who dont want to pay even iota of attention to hindu’s interests.
The 16 yr old girl in this account, and the hundereds of people who were brutalized in the carnage that followed, are all victims alike. What does their religion and have to do with it? We have become biased in our sympathy as well! Some secular nation we are! I am a woman and my heart shudders when i read about attrocities against another woman, man or child, their religion notwithstanding. When would we realise that all riots, especially communal are politically motivated and not the result of the thoughts or actions of the common man of any religious faith. May god guide us!
this is what I have been shouting for so long on this website… Have you seen the language they use in their articles.. Muslims did this, muslim did that..
They have presented every single fact with communal look to it, as if hindus are the most peace loving, crime free, innocent childs on this planet. We beat out own wives and burn them for dowry, but that is all part of great hindu culture.
These monsters tore aprt childre, young and elderly in the name of faith. They brutalzied entire families, communities and now are enjoying political returns sitting on heap of chared dead bodies of both hindus and muslims alike.
It gives me utter disgust to even think that there are people like these in my own community, whose sole job is to create hatred, divide and suspicion between common man…but sooner or later, we will be awake enough to kick these people out of our nation and hopefully out of this world forever in true salvation for their disgusted minds and souls.
How can the act of one individual, or a group of individuals draw a bad name for the entire community? If it was a group of individuals who burnt the sabarmati express (god bless the souls of those who died) why was legal action not taken against those people? If their religion was so easily identified, why couldn’t the individuals be identified and brought to justice? We have police, a legal system, so why did a mob of extremists feel the need to dishonor and murder appx 1000 innocent people including children and women for the fault of a group of miscreants who perhaps belonged to the same community? And if this is justifiable, then is it ok now for the gujrati muslims (or any muslims) to take law in their hands and go on a killing spree and murder any hindu who walks their way because a certain group of hindu goons killed people of their community in 2002? No. Then how can anyone justify the gujrat muslim carnage. We read, we write, we hear we talk, but till the time we FEEL the pain of another as we would our own, such carnages would continue. Who takes the responsibility for ending the viscious cycle of giving and recieving pain? Someone has to. I am a hindu, and what binds me with a muslim is that we are both humans. Of course, there are many people who already know this because among reports of brutality, there were also accounts of hindus assisting their muslim neighbours. So, the point is, people as individuals are good or bad because of their DEEDS and not because of their religion. So, may all GOOD humans, wether hindu, christian, muslim or sikh, be blessed by god and may those political bastards who set the sabarmati express ablaze or the bastards who raped and killed hundereds of people, all rot in hell. God bless
Deepak seems like a paki masquedarading as a hindu.
@isha-The only threat to peace is always the Islam
Chapter 9 verse 5 of quran is evidence of this…
The man who opened my eyes:
Former IPS officer, Sanjeev Bhatt, who was superintendent of police (intelligence) then, says in his affidavit that Modi insisted that the bodies of those killed on the Sabarmati Express be brought to Ahmedabad, against the advice of government officials.
Read the article here: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/modi-wanted-muslims-to-be-taught-a-lesson-gujarat-cop/articleshow/8063169.cms
Read this article to know what this IPS officer Sanjiv Bhat is really. And answer one simple question- why did Sanjiv Bhat not say anything for 9 years since 2002 if he knew all this?
http://dailypioneer.com/334186/Bhatt%E2%80%99s-track-record-speaks-for-itself.html and this one
How are the moderators of this website……????
Are they sleeping or wat????
A lot of bullshits are written about our prophet but no one is bothering to delete them.
Do, you people want me to start saying shits about Lord Ram and etc..
But sorry guys Islam doesn’t preaches me to abuse any other religions because then they will get a chance to abuse ours.
So, for the sake of humanity,Please guys you have already played a lot with the bloods of innocents(hindus & muslims)Don’t play with our faith….!!!!
Indian In Australia:
The question you asked: Why did he not say anything for 9 years??
Is it just you or every saffron extremist has the same question? You guys end up asking the same question?
Sanjeev Bhat in the interview clearly explained the kind of questions you are asking you fool. He is an IPS level officer, by law they are not allowed to go to media and allege anything until they are called in a court of law or are under oath to testify. He did mention about this when the Gujarat riots investigations started in 2005. And he testified in front of SIT as law wants an IPS officer to abide by. After finding out that his testimony has been leaked to media and government of Gujarat by SIT officers, he went ahead and filed an affidavit in the court!
Your question and its basis is only saffron color. It does not make any sense, he is neither a victim nor a common man who can go around screaming what he knows. The constitution clearly has guidelines and protocols for officers to testify. UNLESS THEY ARE UNDER OATH OR ARE BEING INVESTIGATED, THEY CANNOT DISCLOSE ANY INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC YOU MORON!
Dude I thought living abroad, you will be an educated and rational person who follows and knows about laws, policies of India and other countries well. But turns out you are nothing more than a saffron chaddi slave after all huh??
The question to asked to daringly is a joke, because it has no legal basis to it. What would you expect him to do? Go around in media and shout that modi was complicit in gujarat riots? He is binded by the very law Gujarat government failed to implement in 2002. He is a officer in a government agency, they have protocols and guidelines to follow, they are not like PRAVEEN TAGODIA who shout and use fake religious propaganda to charge emotions of common man…
Now go and come up with some other question, since you just FAILED WITH THIS ONE!! lol
JVC, you seem to like a chinese communist trying to divide India in 30 pieces. How about we first deport you back to China from US huh??
Fourteen policemen involved in the Ishrat Jahan encounter on Tuesday alleged there was “serious groupism and infighting” among senior Indian Police Service officers in Gujarat, as a result of which they were being victimised and they have approached the High Court for transferring the case.
The case relating to the encounter should be transferred either to 5the Central Bureau of Investiugation or any other Special Investigation Team and there should be no officer of state police on board, they said in an application before the Gujarat High Court.
Ishrat Jahan, along with three others — Javed Sheikh alias Pranesh Pillai, Amjad Ali Rana and Zeeshan Johar– was killed on the outskirts of Ahmedabad [ Images ] on June 15, 2004 in a police encounter.
IPS officer G L Singhal and 13 other policemen in the application alleged that “on account of serious groupism and infighting among senior ranked IPS officers” they were being victimised in Gujarat.
The policemen stated that they are anticipating arrest by the present SIT, which has now virtually become a one-man team of IPS officer Satish Verma, following the April 21 order by a High Court Bench comprising Justice Patel and Justice Abhilasha Kumari.
Singhal and others have contended that handing over the probe to only one IPS officer would be ‘prejudicial’ to them. They also expressed serious apprehensions that Verma could take coercive steps against them, generate fake evidence and may falsely implicate them in the case.
In their application, the policemen have said that “Verma is acting either at the behest of or in connivance with senior IPS officers, who like Satish Verma are harbouring personal grudge against them, for reasons best known to them”.
The application was urgently mentioned before Justice Patel on Tuesday. However, the Court refused to hear the plea saying that it will be heard in a routine course when the matter is listed for hearing or along with the main case which is scheduled to come up again on May 12.
Meanwhile, senior counsel Nirupam Nanavati, representing the aggrieved police officers, submitted that there was ‘deep internal rivalry among the IPS officers, because of which his clients were being victimised.
Justice Patel, however, said that the division bench hearing the case was not present. He further said that the police officers cannot be heard at this stage as they were not even named accused in the case. They can be heard only after their arrest, he added.
In their application, the policemen accused Verma of using ‘extra legal’ investigation methods so as to falsely implicate them in the case. They have cited complaints of certain police officials who had claimed that Verma was employing coercive tactics to extract statements from them.
Besides Singhal, the 13 others who have moved the application were Tarun Barot, J G Parmar, D H Goswami, B A Chavda, K M Vaghela, R I Patel, K S Desai, C J Goswami, T Vyas, N B Saiyyed, M N Menat, B R Bharwad and A J Chowdhary.
The Crime Branch which carried out the encounter had claimed that the four victims were Lashkar terrorists who had come to kill Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi
THIS IS TJHE CONDITION OF CURRENT IPS OFFICERS IN GUJARAT YOU MORONS, AND YOU ARE IMPLICATING SANJEEV BHATT FOR ONE CRIMINAL ACT?? POLICE OPFFICERS FROM GUJARAT ITSELF ARE BEGGING TO TRANSFER THE CASE OUT OF GUJARAT BECAUSE ALL THE OFFICERS ARE SO CORRUPT AND SLAVES TO SAFFRON IDEOLOGY!!
HA HA HA HA !! JOKERS
Really interesting news article: http://communalism.blogspot.com/2011/02/sanjeev-bhatt-cop-who-has-blown-lid-on.html
Congratulation to BJP for spectacular performance in recent state electioons across India. Lol, seems like entire nation is hsowing the mood to BJP that there days in politics are numbered lol!
Recent Assembly Election:
Total seats Contested: 765
BJP’s total number: 5
A true “National Party :P”
AA true party that is working for the nation!!
@Adnan-I will tell you what Islam preaches you…
It preaches you hatred,intolerance towards Other religions….Chaptr 9 verse 5
It preaches you discrimination against girls….chapter 2 verse 282
Quran is not word of God as it contains a loads of contradiction….
@deepak-Chaptr 4 verse 13 claims that when a woman is raped she needs to produce 4 male witnessess to prove that she has been raped….or else she is punished for having extra marital sex….
Now using common sense anyone can say that it is hopeless to demand four male witnessess for a rape scene….n if there are any…then it is clear that they are co-rapists…..
As a result it is clear that Islam dicriminates on the basis of sex….
Now dare to criticise Islam for this if you have courage….Or else go on with your hopeless talks….
i want to explain few relevant points which u have missed,it isn’t your fault actually it is your mind which has been poisoned by false teachings.Whatever you’ve discussed is because of the prejudices against Islam.
You are talking about Quranic verses,people like you can never understand even a single verse.
You all are pro Americans but are you not aware that in America women had no voting rights till 19th century. If u want to talk about discrimination between men & women then don’t forget that in Hindu system girls had no property rights before Hindu marriage Act,1955. In Islam girls have property rights(Quran is approx. 1432 yrs. old book)how can u say that there are contradictions in holy book, these contradictions arises when people like u start writing books.
In Islam women are forced to gain knowledge, forced to do innovative work.
women are not allowed to be witnesses because it has been proved that women are psychologically weak they are mentally unstable.It is not easy to trust them,not because God discriminates but because they aren’t powerful enough to remain stable.
You people are quite rigid u won’t understand anything,THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS GOD HAS DISCUSSED ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN HOLY QURAN & PLEASE FOR HEAVEN’S SAKE IF U CAN’T UNDERSTAND HOLY BOOK THEN DON’T READ IT, YOU PEOPLE CAN’T MISGUIDE ANYONE.
Their book preaches….
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful….
Id Mubarak Arshia….!!!!
i think modi will b the great prime minister of India. he made gujrat number one state and he can make India number one country. Then there shoud b no corruption and equal rights for everybody
our gr8 muslim bros.do live in india,earn their bread in india,blast some bombs in india in the name of their religion,always cheer 4 their paki bros, destroy da communal harmony in india and yet mr.XYZ don’t critisize ’em…
dear DEEp….talking of communal harmony why do v always tend to forget the contributin of the naxals and the maoists. And not to forget the murderers of 1984 anti sikh riots. these people are no muslims and yet they murder and wipe out families. every community has confused peole who never really understand what their religion teaches them. It is very wrong to blame only the muslims just because they are in minority. Hindus in this case are as much to blame as the Muslims. the ampount of bloodshed the hindus caused is no less than the muslims.
@ARSHIA: Dear you have not given any pain to justify the condition of four men as witness for rape. You produced the pits falls of hindus. Dear, this is not the way to answer to people who is asking you something. don’t justify your mistake by producing another’s mistake.
I agree with the points made by rajneesh. Facts are strongly in dissonanace with the theory of arshia. Islamic law as enforced by Islamic governments even today (considered eternally immutable and non-reviewable on account of being divinely ordained for all time to come) is highly repressively inimical to the natural human rights of all of womanhood.
Every passing week the SHARIA sheikhdoms in SHARJAH, SAUDI, and other Persian Gulf states barbarically put to death by stoning in public helpless poor housemaids from Sri Lanka, Phillipines etc. who have been condemned by SHARIA courts for allegedly making extra-marital love. In the absurd legal system still in place in these Islamist regimes, the fact that an unfortunate pregnant woman has been away for greater than 9 months from her husband in her native country (ie with no reasonable chance for the possibilty of copulation between them) suffices for the pronouncement of a sentence of GUILTY of ADULTERY upon the lady. Also, when a wayward BEDOUIN master forcibly RAPES his Asian (Sri Lankan, Filipino, Indonesian ..) housemaid in a fit of lust (as is sometimes wont to happen with a man having maybe 34 wives), the court brings a charge of ADULTERY on the poor woman on the silly grounds of “NOT HAVING STOPPED the MAN from MAKING LOVE TO HER”. Even if the lady argues that she has been raped(and is therefore the victim and not the perpetrator), unless the guilt of the master can be conclusively proven (Sharia courts give more credence to WITNESS testimony than to forensic-medical-analysis reports), the woman is convicted for having “allowed a man to make love to her” because this undeniable fact is implicit in the very nature of the woman’s complaint. Such women are buried in the sand upto the neck outside mosques and the devout faithful are expected to hurl at least one big stone at her. The idea is that the woman must die a slow, bloody and excruciatingly painful death. The devout onlookers who revel in this ritual murder afterward feel greatly unburdened of the load of their own LUSTFUL past sins, for the merit earned through pleasing the OMNIPOTENT God–of-religion in this way is more than enough to EXPIATE any carnal sins of the savage stone-thrower. So the OIL-SHIEKHS thus get the SACRED religious license and incentive to indulge in MORE and MORE of prostitution & sexual depradations with impunity, convinced that they shall have all of them forgiven the very moment next time they stone another ASIAN maid to death. Anyone can ascertain the facts for himself by perusing the judgement archives of Islamic countries. Nevertheless, notwithstanding numerous Islamic religious injunctions that violate the human dignity of women, some committed fundamentalist Islamist women theologians continue to vouch for sanctity of barbaric aspects of Islamic law, just as the widely-acclaimed theologian daughter of Aurangzeb had written in monumental treatises.
Narendra modi is an intense hindu and almost all of his followers hate muslims and it can be easily observed. A common man needs a safe and well-designed democratic environment in which they can enjoy freedom with all life supporting facilities. I don’t know how Narendra Modi will do this but i will expect him to do this being a true human being. In the early 1940s at the Annual Conference of National Congress Party, Madan Mohan Malviya (MMM), a staunch Brahmin, said while conversing with the Sikh representative, Giani Sher Singh of the Shromani Akali Dal, said that “Giani ji, Aap Fikar naa Karen, Mulak ke Azad Ho Jaane do, hum (the Hindus/Brahmins and their pros) Apni Vidhya Prannali Mei Sanshodhan Kar Ke Musalmaano Kee Saari Musalmaani Nikaal Deynge,” which meant that Giani ji, do not worry about the Muslims, the followers of Janab M A Jinnah, the leader of the Muslims, “let the country (the Hindus/Brahmins) get its freedom from the ‘Slavery of the British Empire’, we will take care of the Muslims by making appropriate changes in the Educational Syllabus of the British India, to suit the Brahmins-Baniya (elite-trader caste Hindus) clique and their followers.”..This Hindu-brahmin strategy must be diverted in the recent times and it is required also. Aam-aadmi can be a hindu, sikh or muslim or christian but if you can’t respect each other then it is better to live separately and peacefully, but if you like to live as a family then you must respect each other’s way of life and thoughts. Take this as a brief example, “to preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-kror (20-million) Sikhs, we will do so”
-Balram Jakhar, a former Indian Cabinet Minister and colleague of the former Indian Prime Minister, P. V. Narsimhanrao
The drivel of so called Mr. Harpreet Singh against Hindus and followers of Narendra Modi is crass hate-propaganda and unworthy of comment. It is the height of dishonest moral depravity. If Harpreet believes that it is a crime for Hindus to be followers of the ascetic Modi, this is exactly the kind of hatred which Meera Nanda has expressed in her book when saying that Hindu ministers committed a crime against rational modernism in paying obeisance to ascetic Hindu saints like Devraha Baba of UP. Tomorrow they might similarly badmouth the 7 crore followers of Baba Ramdev. They do not possess the moral mental capacity to appreciate the inborn Satwikk Hindu propensity to venerate the Aatman present as the immanent essence of every living and non-living being. How can such Hindus be ever expected not to exhibit civilised respect and regard for all human beings, least of all the ascetic saints of exemplary moral virtuosity. Harpreet will do well to practice a fraction of what he preaches:-(respecting each other’s way of life and thoughts) and realise that if 1 billion Hindus can respect Guru Nanak, Harpreet has no right to lambast their natural hundredfold love for Narendra Modi. Narendra Modi’s wellwishers are 1 billion Indian masses, there is no “elite” clique or “oppressed” among them, because they are all brothers and sisters united by natural bonds of Saatwik temperament besides the incidental racial blood ties. Ill-intentioned attempts to sow discord among the Indians, in which respect Harpreet can claim no originality because such attempts have been made by enemies of civilisation since the very dawn of the Indian nation in hoary antiquity,shall always stand doomed to failure. The unity of the Indian nation shall ever remain protected by God. Mr. Harpreet(if that is his name) is a blot and curse on the fair name of the Sikh religion. He could well be an imposter pupil of Osama Bin Laden. Thousands of turbaned Fanatics, congenitally bereft of all traces of morality, attempted to eradicate the Hindu laboreres and farmers in northern India during the 1980’s through frenzied mass murder. Eventhough outwardly they had all claimed to be devout disciples of guru Nanak, in reality they were demons in human disguise who thankfully eventually exterminated themselves by fighting one another to death. Divine justice prevails over the conspiracies of Nirriti. It is those fanatics armed by the ISI who had actually planned and attempted the genocidal elimination of 600 million Hindus instead of Hindus planning the extermination of 20 million Sikhs as falsely alleged. Harpreet certainly is a renegade if at all he has been born in a Sikh family; surely he is disgracefully unworthy of any association with the Sikh gurus.
@ Mr. satyashrava… Thanks for showing your incomplete-ness..over
Ha ha ha Im surprised at DR. Harpreet Singh. Look what Akalis have done to Punjab. Bringing up Martyrdom to killers, Drugaddicts, rapists and the people who have taken away sanctity of sri Harmandir Sahib and are bent upon given honors to Sunni Porki comandos whose bodies were holed out after Operation bluestar from our own sri harmandir Sahib